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Just saw this today and they said the Tacoma is faster than the Ridgeline ? First report that I have seen that puts the Ridgeline below the Tacoma.

2017 Honda Ridgeline AWD First Test: The Trucklet, Revised - Motor Trend
I can personally testify that the Tacoma is NOT faster 0-60 than the RL. I just sold my 2016 4X4 TRD Sport V6 and it was a slug compared to the RL. The Colorado is also faster 0-60 than the Tacoma.

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I don't think the RL is too large, but it is certainly the largest vehicle I've owned.

All Honda vehicles have grown over the years. My first car was a four door mint green (with avocado green interior) 1980 Honda Accord (quite used at the time). It was much smaller than even the civic today.

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I've been researching the Ridgeline and Tacoma for some time now and this article seems a bit off.

For one thing they knock the Ridgeline for the high price... but the Tacoma Limited, which compares with the RTL-E (or even T) still tops out at just over 40K. And about the only thing you get with the Limited (aside from better off-road & towing performance) is a Qi charger. The RTL-E offers more in every other area for about 2K more. And, if you compare a TRD Sport to the RTL-T things even out from a price standpoint.

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2017 TRD Sport DCSB - Auto/4x4/Premium Tech Pkg (no JBL) / Tow Pkg = $38655 MSRP
2017 RTL-T AWD = $38630 MSRP

The TRD Sport wins with: BSM, Sliding Rear Window (now powered), Qi Charging, Moonroof (and the option to go with JBL for more $)
The RTL-T wins with: Leather interior, Power Seats, LaneWatch, CARPLAY, Remote Start (and a host of other things)

I consider the RTL-T to be superior in all ways to the TRD Sport with the exception of off-road, towing and unfortunately, looks....for the same MSRP.

Additionally, EVERY review I've seen shows the RL to be quicker on the 0-60. The guys at TFLTruck even raced them and the RL beat the Tacoma by about a second. I know that this isn't scientific... but here's the link if you haven't seen it.

Also, as mentioned above. Every single automobile sold in the US has gotten (is that a word) bigger over the past 20 years. Why knock the RL for it.
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Their comments about price were in reference to full size pickups. Notice they mentions incentives. Full size trucks, nicely appointed, can be had for 40k so the upper trims of the Ridgeline are indeed overpriced.
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Buy what you like and don't look back. The Honda clearly targets a different buyer than the Tacoma or the Colorado. For those considering an E or BE, take what it's missing in hauling and offroading and then add in heated seats, Carplay, adaptive cruise control, lane keep, autonomous braking, in-bed trunk, speakers in bed, electronic sliding read window, ride on rough pavement and a MUCH more usable cab and it's easy to justify for one who doesnt care as much about towing or offroading.
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Interesting differences in 0-60 times by different folks - CR says 7.33 for the RL and 8.23 for the Taco. The difference between C&D and CR is could be at least partially due to road surface & maybe CR takes a bit of a real-world approach to their test versus outright fastest time possible. Of course my BE does it in 6.5. Doesn't everyone's?
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It depends on the buyer. I want a vehicle that my wife will also want to drive. I want a Pilot, but we have only one kiddo, so with 3 in the family, the Pilot makes little sense. The bed that I can put lumber, plants, tools, bikes, skis into makes a crapload more sense for me than more carpeted and seated interior that I will never need. If it is a Pilot with a bed and stiffer suspension, well, that is what I actually want.
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How many sources of data do we have for the 0-60? If just C&D and this article, it's just as possible that C&D got it wrong as it is that this article did.

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How many sources of data do we have for the 0-60? If just C&D and this article, it's just as possible that C&D got it wrong as it is that this article did.

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Motor Trend says RL 0-60 in 7.3 seconds, Taco in 7.1 so there are differences everywhere you look. But in the end, regardless of how fast it may be, the RL is an extremely comfortable and very versatile truck that I very much enjoy driving. Then when I feel the need for speed or to cruise on the back roads for a while I put the top down on my Miata.
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Car and Driver shows 6.6 seconds for 0-60.... I have seen other reviews that claims 0-60 in 6.5... the RL definitely feels quicker than a Tacoma.
Having owned both, I can confirm that it is...not sure who was driving that RL; however, there is no comparison, unless maybe they were revving an M/T Tacoma and punching it off the line at a high RPM, which is the ONLY place the Tacoma has any get up and go...
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