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Does Motor Trend Know what they are talking about?

Just saw this today and they said the Tacoma is faster than the Ridgeline ? First report that I have seen that puts the Ridgeline below the Tacoma.

2017 Honda Ridgeline AWD First Test: The Trucklet, Revised - Motor Trend

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Re: Does Motor Trend Know what they are talking about?

I haven't even read the story yet, but that headline makes me question the objectivity.

"2017 HONDA RIDGELINE AWD FIRST TEST: THE TRUCKLET, REVISED"

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Agreed on the infotainment system. Volume knob is not an issue for me due to steering wheel controls. Styling is subjective - I happen to really like it.

When saying it was "basically a Pilot" though, they misses the pieces that are different. I remember seein a Honda video where a lot of the suspension pieces were redesigned specifically for the Ridgeline to be able to handle increased loads. Otherwise, might as well say the Pilot is basically an Odyssey or Accord.

I didn't see anything comparing it to the Taco. What did I miss?

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Just saw this today and they said the Tacoma is faster than the Ridgeline and that is also worst on gas than the Tacoma? First report that I have seen that puts the Ridgeline below the Tacoma.

2017 Honda Ridgeline AWD First Test: The Trucklet, Revised - Motor Trend
I thought it said it "trounced" the Tacoma for gas.
What they saw: city/highway/combined
Ridgeline: 16.5/25.8/21
Tacoma: 15.8/21.8/18.1
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They said the Ridgeline beat the Colorado in MPG and trounched the Tacoma. They said the Tacoma was quicker, but they didn't specify which Tacoma. Overall I thought it was a good article. I can't speak to their specific performance numbers, but their subjective opinions were pretty spot on I thought.
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I thought it said it "trounced" the Tacoma for gas.
What they saw: city/highway/combined
Ridgeline: 16.5/25.8/21
Tacoma: 15.8/21.8/18.1
Looks like you are right.. My eyes must have been playing tricks on my eyes. I thought I saw 16 city for ridgeline and 18 for Taco.
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I would have thought the RL would have done better on the skidpad given its tech and suspension. We all know the RL is way overpriced (IMO by 3-4k) but that argument can made for midsize pickups in general. This is the argument that was around with the demise of the Ranger. You don't get that much better MPG's or enough of a decrease in price with a midsize truck. I've always thought the RL drives like the 08 Odyssey which I once owned which drove great. I've always said that if it did 0-60 in 6.5 (in other reviews) my Accord V6 was a dragster then.

As a buyer, I wanted a truck that would fit inside a garage with an 8ft wide opening, did not fishtail when accelerating on a turn and could hold 4 people comfortably. The RL was the only option. The problem is that you have to pay up to get this. Right now IMO the only values with Honda are with the big sellers like the Civic, Accord and CRV. As more competition enters the midsize market and if Honda decides to produce more RL's pricing should get better.
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Car and Driver shows 6.6 seconds for 0-60.... I have seen other reviews that claims 0-60 in 6.5... the RL definitely feels quicker than a Tacoma.
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Re: Does Motor Trend Know what they are talking about?

As usual, when an article is posted and it's highly critical we point the finger and question its' validity. When an article says what you want to hear everyone is chest bumping. Quit paying attention to what other people have to say. Drive your truck, enjoy it.
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It is interesting that their test truck performed so much more poorly than C&D's tests (and it did sound like there was quite a bit of bias against it in the article). C&D pulled 0.80g on the skidpad on their tests.

M/T also mentioned the gear selector was PRND (no mention of D4, L or the different traction modes). I do agree with them that the RIDGELINE has grown too large, and their infotainment system is a bit embarrassing compared to some other trucks. Yes, a volume knob is NOT necessary, and may be totally useless for many people, but you do expect that kind of redundancy on a vehicle in this class - like it or not, it is a Honda fail.

As for pricing, it is overpriced on higher trims, but I think very competitive at the base trims when you compare vehicles of similar trim levels (you can tell folks are biased when they don't compare the same trim levels, e.g. 4wd/awd, four door, v6, etc.).
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