I assume no one has either of these tires?

 

I have the Crugen HT51 but I don't own a Ridgeline. I am seriously considering the Ridgeline in a year or 2. The Kumho's are on my 05 Nissan Titan. I can only compare these with my previous Michelin LTX M/S on the same truck:

• Michelins track a little better on highways. Kumhos seems to wander just a bit
• Michelins are quieter at all speeds by a bit
• Michelins grip better on wet pavement
• Michelins feel a bit more comfortable on pavement
• Michelins lasted over the rated 70,000 miles and still rode the same as day 1. Not sure how well the Kumhos will wear since I've only had them for 6 months
• Kumhos were 1/2 the price of Michelins, both were purchased via Discount Tires on their big sales days and stacking manufacturer rebates
• Both grip about the same when cornering
• Both brake about the same

If I could get 40,000 miles out of these Kumhos without ride degradation, then they are well worth it for 1/2 the price.

 

Did you end up getting these by chance?

I'm still on my OEM's with about 22k miles on them.. I live on top of a giant hill.. so thinking I may want to swap my tires out before the winter for something a bit more Snow Capable

We have another car with dedicated Snows, so unless it's crazy out and I need to drive, I am not planning to get dedicated Snows for the RL.

 

That tire caught my eye when researching snow tires. It's siped design should do well in the snow. If you read the Tire Rack reviews though, they say that the sipes don't go deep enough to get the performance over the life of the tire. If you aren't going for snows this looks like a tire worth trying if you are going the 3 peak symbol route. It would be nice if TR did a test to get comparison data.

 

yeah looking to go the 3 Peak symbol route.. i'll wait and see if anyone here has any 1st hand feedback

 

Have you looked at the Nokian WR SUV tires? I'm on the second set of the Nokians on my wife's Element with good results.

 

I’m still looking as well.

Obviously I suspect I’m over thinking this and I should just buy something... but the choices are all “confusing” ha.




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I put the HT51's on my '06 about 10,000 miles ago. They're excellent. I didn't want a knobby "truck" tire, but still wanted decent snow/mud/rain performance. The HT51's deliver. They are very quiet on the highway and I don't notice any of the wandering that someone else mentioned. It's rock solid and tracks perfectly at (allegedly) 80mph. The gas mileage is something I can't speak to - I don't track it because I really don't want to know. It is what it is - a giant flying brick.

My '06 has not seen snow, but they perform very well in heavy rain / pooling water. If you don't need a knobby, loud, obnoxious truck tire, get the HT's. They rock. I have roughly 10,000 miles on them and they have zero noticeable wear. I expect a long life. They were dirt cheap and my expectations weren't very high, but I love them.

 

I put the HT51's on my '06 about 10,000 miles ago. They're excellent. I didn't want a knobby "truck" tire, but still wanted decent snow/mud/rain performance. The HT51's deliver. They are very quiet on the highway and I don't notice any of the wandering that someone else mentioned. It's rock solid and tracks perfectly at (allegedly) 80mph. The gas mileage is something I can't speak to - I don't track it because I really don't want to know. It is what it is - a giant flying brick.



My '06 has not seen snow, but they perform very well in heavy rain / pooling water. If you don't need a knobby, loud, obnoxious truck tire, get the HT's. They rock. I have roughly 10,000 miles on them and they have zero noticeable wear. I expect a long life. They were dirt cheap and my expectations weren't very high, but I love them.

Thanks!!

It’s a big very big help.

The HT51’s have been on my list since finding out that they carry the three peak snowflake logo. And the low low price really is welcome!!!

I’ve been concerned because they don’t look very potent in the listing photo at Tirerack. The pattern looks like an “old school” highway tire - which isn’t a dig! But I need winter traction when needed. And like you I have no need for a AT tire (although those new Continental tires get rave reviews and are quite but not cheap). I also want a quite ride and hope to not take a hit on mpg)

So your saying in the rain they are good? consumer reports dinged them in rain especially stopping.

If I could predict the future I believe my gen2 will be getting some 51s soon

By any chance do you have have photos on your Ridgeline?

Again many thanks!!!


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Thanks for the review! will def be looking into getting these.

 

Figured I'd chime in. I've been doing tire research for a VERY long time in anticipation of the replacement of my Yokohama Geolander ATS tires. I've had the Yoko's on my truck for nearly six years now and about 40k miles. They still have an acceptable amount of tread on them, but they're nearing the end of their time cycle (as is life with low-mileage commuting). The Yoko's have lasted a very long time and do provide great traction in dry, wet and winter weather. However, they're extremely noisy, a bit wobbly (even road force balancing doesn't help) and the rolling resistance of the all-terrain design has destroyed any hope I ever had of getting over 20mpg on the highway.

I've looked at every tire there is that fits the stock 17" wheels (2007) and was going back and forth between the Sumitomo Encounter HT and the Crugen HT51. For the longest time, the Sumitomo's were DIRT cheap and had stellar ratings. The Kumho's always seemed to be a bit more expensive albeit with similarly stellar ratings. I've noticed over the last few months that the Sumi's price has gone up likely because of their increasing popularity. The Kumho's have stayed relatively the same, but I was able to find them on Amazon for $108 each shipped for free to my house. My local tire shop can match this price and give me an out-the-door price with mount/balance/alignment that fits my budget. I will likely be having these put on within the next few days.

 

I know I have mentioned this before but the Encounters got very poor reviews by Consumer Reports when they tested all season tires. In particular their wet braking was a weak spot. The HT51 on the other hand were ranked in the top third of the tires tested. They were one of only two all season tires with the highest mark for snow. They weren't exceptional otherwise but for those in moderately snowy areas who don't wan't to deal with snow tires, they seem like a pretty good option. Price is also pretty good. . .

Here's the thread from the GenII tire section with the CR reviews of all season, all terrain and snow tires. . . .

https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com...2g-tires-wheels-suspension/191793-consumer-reports-tire-reviews-nov-2017-a.html

 

I'm no tire expert, but I do love to research products before I buy them. I purchased a set of HT51's about 3 weeks ago at the recommendation of my mechanic. I was initially looking for an AT tire to replace my Destination LE2's as I live in WI and was looking for better winter performance. I was initially skeptical because these are listed as an all season tire and as mentioned by another user, have a pretty basic tread design(I like the look of an A/T tire). I spent a good amount of time researching these tires, and went so far as to contact Kumho about the 3PMSF designation and the characteristics of this tire. Based on this designation, I'm surprised Kumho does not market them as an "all-weather" tire as from what I have seen, the 3PMSF designation is a qualifying trait of an all-weather tire. The rep indicated that the rubber compound will stay more flexible at lower temps than a standard all season tire, and 3D, zigzag sipes provides extra bite. The rep also indicated that the sipes are full depth and will not disappear as the tread wears off. Subjectively speaking, they do feel more pliable than other tires I have to compare them to. I have grown to find the look of these tires more appealing as I see it is a highly functional design and looks like a truck tire should without trying to look overtly aggressive. Many all season tires have uninterrupted circumferential tread ribs, whereas this is comprised of individual blocks that form the ribs, which should provide extra biting edges as well. The shoulders are what I would consider to be fairly open for an all-season tire also. We have had near continuous rain for the past 3 weeks and wet braking has been great and no traces of hydroplaning. Not an off road tire, but found and excuse to drive through some mud/ruts at the city dump this week and the tires worked their way through fine. The big test will be in snow, I'm optimistic they'll do well, but can certainly wait as long as the snow wants to hold off. Ride quality is good, have no complaints about noise, etc. If they do well in snow, I will probably put them on my wife's Sienna.

 

Interestingly, the tires ranked #1, #2, and #4(as of today at least) in the all season category are the HT51, LTX M/S, and LTX M/S2. All three tires basically look the same, so there must be something to that design. I expect performance at least as good as the Michelin’s, possibly better as neither of the Michelin’s have the severe snow service rating.

 

I’m still on the fence between the HT51s and the TerrainContacts ...

Reasons I haven’t pulled the trigger yet?

- ht51 tires seem perfect but also seem like “old highway” designed tires.

- TCs seem too aggressive but have great reviews. Not sure how good in winter

- waiting on some extra money lol.

That said my front firestone tires have 4/32nds left and rears at 8/32nds — at 21k miles never rotated my fault.


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Well, I had to wait a few more days for my tire guy to get the Kumho HT51's for me, but I had them put on last week on Thursday. I had a 200+ mile round trip scheduled for the weekend, so I was happy to get the new shoes put on. I posted a first-impression thread over at the G1 tire and wheel section. You can read it here:

https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com...ires-wheels-suspensions/213632-kumho-crugen-ht51-installed-wow.html#post3014614

Bottom line - these things are impressive and should cost more than they do.

 

Thanks for the udpate! I think these have jumped to the top of my list for when i'm ready to pull the trigger.

 

Two things I value in a tire are wet braking and snow traction. When you look at data, there is an inverse relationship between these two variables so there's no free lunch. It's important to prioritize what's important to you. I suppose in the end, you can control how you drive in the rain but you can't as easily control whether or not you get stuck in the snow or get caught driving between snow storms. This is why I like having at least one vehicle with snows.

 

I finally order a set of these HT51 tires 245/60-18 and idk. I’ve had them on for a week almost. And very loud. Very poor mpg and sadly not that great in snow...

I wish I could send them back but I doubt that’s a possibility. So it’s an expensive mistake on my part :-(




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Hmm. That's the exact opposite experience from what I've had. My set is whisper quiet, allowed me to gain about 1-1.5mpg's in normal driving and were rock solid in the light snowfall we had this past weekend. Did you have the truck aligned when you had the tires put on? Any chance they weren't balanced properly? I would contact Kumho to see if they have any recommendations.

 

So an update is order....

Snow traction seems fine although any type of lateral movement in snow or wet is less secure with little warning. Though I suspect it’s just due to the design here and it’s good.

MPG is improved but it’s erratic.

Heavy breaking on wet roads was a bit scary for the initial grab - but once they grab they hold firm!

Road feel is pretty great actually, but again any moderate lateral driving and they start to feel unsteady.

Noise - extremely loud road hum. Starts to be heard at 35mph. By 50+ it’s extremely annoying. Especially since it’s a very quiet truck...

Again I’m not saying anyone should avoid these!


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