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Old 05-08-2008, 01:28 AM
G2Turbo G2Turbo is offline
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Re: EBC Brakes: FIRST set of brake pads in the USA

I think saying the rotors WON'T warp is pushing it-- do they really quote that?

The technology has been around for awhile. From what I've heard it really works, not only for brake rotors but for engine parts that see extreme stresses. People with small engines making insane HP (2.0L and 500+ HP)probably have used the treatment.

The principal is sound and will ultimately improve any metal for any application, it sounds like. It's the same relationship as Forging, except that instead of using high pressure and forming, it's a static treatment.

Another way around the inherent constraints of one piece rotors, w/o cryo treatment is 2 piece rotors. These use a separate aluminum hat, with a steel floating rotor. Most real race cars use them and are often a necessity to keep brakes from fading into oblivion when heavily used on circuit racing. The rotors are easily replaced; "hats" are reused.

There's another well known brake company that sells cryo rotors-- Power Slot, i think. I thought about buying them, but the cost was about double. I could not verify their source of rotors. For a street truck, not justifiable for me.

On a sports car or race car-- say SCCA Showroom stock where no changes are allowed (bigger brakes for example), the cryo rotors would be a great choice.

Overall the application and need is there: if you tow all the time, live in the mountains, and tail gate for fun, or race, then maybe it's the best choice for rotors. Choose a lackluster brake pad for the fancy rotors and none of it will matter.

I like EBC because they actually make their own products all in the UK- no imported Chinese parts for example. Any company that makes their own stuff is usually high on my "I like that/them" list. I feel confident from prior experience with EBC that the braking issues will abate, and they will last for years. Ultimately saving me time, effort, a few scares, and a chunk of change.

This makes me think of something else. These small businesses that import brake rotors and CNC them inhouse are pretty popular, especially on Ebay it seems. The products look okay, but the cheap castings. short warranty, and potential balance issues from being drilled/slotted/etc, concerns me. As a auto tech I assure people there are several different 'grades' available-- you get what you pay for.

Ultimately people need to ask themselves: "do i want real performance, or is the image more important"? If one is willing to pay 2/3 rds for the image, then why not go 3/3 (all the way) and get everything?
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06 Ridgeline RTL S/R, Nighthawk Black, now 23K miles, 20" wheels in the garage; EBC Brake Upgrade; Winter Wear: 17" OE wheels and new Yokohama AT/S 275/60's; S/S nerf bars, S/S bull bar, Hella Fog lights, K&N air and oil filter, Amsoil Synthetic oil. Soon: FIAM air horn; Brake Fluid upgrade.


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