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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 03-20-2017, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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Ethanol-free fuel

I was wondering how many RL owners have access to, or use, ethanol-free fuel. I have been using it lately, and I am getting, according to my RL's on-board average fuel display, significantly better gas mileage. I'm not certain how accurate the RL's average fuel calculations are, but it seems very promising. I was averaging about 23.1 mpg overall with 10% ethanol (and a VCMuzzler), and now I am slightly over 25 mpg through three tanks of ethanol-free fuel. On my next fill-up I will begin manually calculating my fuel mileage to see if there is actually an improvement.
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Yes ethanol kills milage considerably. Ethanol free is getting scarcer by the day. In Canada, both Shell and Petro Canada use 10% in regular, 5% in midrange and no ethanol in Super. Unfortunately the higher cost offsets the MPG gains so it becomes a draw at the end of the day. If one could find a station the has no ethanol in regular gas that would be the best for the RL for economy. Bottom line is 10% ethanol reduces milage about 3% so about 1 mpg or less on the RL. Not all that huge IMHO.

FYI, EPA figures are produced with ethanol free gas on all cars/trucks, makes you wonder why when 95% of gas sold contains ethanol. This changed with 2017 model year vehicles as they now actually use E10 to reflect better the figures obtained. In a nutshell, the RL EPA figures were done with E10 gas.

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Re: Ethanol-free fuel

I ran 89 octane e-free in a 4cyl Ford Escape and I would have sworn on a stack of bibles that it would have gotten better mileage but it really didn't. I figure I'll try it again too on my RL to see if anything is better but I'm not as hopeful this time. I ran it for around 1000mi exclusively. It seems to be better too when the temps are hot out. Probably something to do with how the ethanol affects combustion. Dunno.... just noticeable on the "feel" of power delivered when driving.

I did notice that on the Escape 2.5 4cyl engine that it was more responsive down low and mid range in the RPM's. Probably more power available there so it felt like it would be better fuel mileage.

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I use ethanol free fuel in all my engines, including my new RLT-E. I use it in my Yamaha 4 stroke boat outboard, my lawn equipment, and especially in my two hot rods, 1953 F-100 ( 302 Ford racing engine ) and my 34 Chevy ( ZZ-4 350 Hi pro engine ). Ethanol is crap and does lots of damage to engines and other fuel system components, especially on boats. We have a few places here to get it as there is a lot of boating. I use 93 grade in the hot rods.
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I only use ethanol free premium and get 25-26 highway mpg


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Most of my fill ups have been with ethanol free 91 octane Gulf fuel (only ethanol free option). Every couple tanks I may have to fill up elsewhere but I try to plan my fill ups at our local ethanol free gulf station. I do realize superior MPGs in warmer weather.
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I agree with the premise that the warmer weather improves the mileage. I have really seen the increase since it has warmed up down here in Southeast Louisiana. Ethanol is a scam perpetrated on us by the government. It decreases mileage, increases emissions, and is corrosive to your fuel system. The EPA is requiring auto manufacturers to comply with unreachable mileage requirements while at the same time polluting our fuels with ethanol, which reduces mileage. What nonsense. Maybe Trump will take care of the ethanol fraud also.
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...Ethanol is a scam perpetrated on us by the government...
Umm...I would include corporate agriculture (rhymes with "Don Santo"), the corn-growing states and their congressional representatives in this conspiracy theory. A 2007 federal law (Renewable Fuel Standards) mandates ethanol production, not the EPA. Environmentalists don't support ethanol either because it's distilled using electricity mostly from coal-fired power plants, and increased corn production for ethanol has its own downsides, such as more herbicides, pesticides and soil erosion. Follow the money to find all the culprits.

I've been using "StarTron" enzyme fuel treatment to stabilize gas and guard against possible ethanol damage in my gas engines. The local small engine equipment dealer recommends it. I buy it in the large size so the cost is not very significant, but I don't use it for every fill-up because of the inconvenience. If we are to believe the automakers, modern vehicles are designed to run on E-10 gas without damage. Not everyone agrees...

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Ethanol free-fuel is not allowed to be sold at service stations (or marinas) around here. I'd have to drive 100 miles round trip to get it. Consider yourselves lucky if you have it available. I probably wouldn't bother putting it in the vehicles, but would love to use it in the boat.
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Yup, corn farmers around here are now plowing fence row to fence row, and in many cases taking out fences and brush to create massive monoculture fields. This results in habitat fragmentation, and makes it much easier for predators such as fox, raccoon and coyotes to find upland-nesting birds (including pheasants and ducks, among many others). Hunters and Ducks Unlimited should be fully up in arms over ethanol. But they have to walk a fine line with the primary landowners, who are farmers.

You can see increased erosion around here, too, as farmers have broken ground on steep hillsides that should never be broken. Drive by after a good rain and you can see the mud trails leaving the fields and going into the ditches.

I have two brothers who still farm. They are small-time, though, and they believe in leaving some habitat for wildlife. They leave steep hills for pasture and run livestock on them, and don't over-rated them.

Too many farms have become large corporate operations. Kids don't want to take over the family farm, so the farm gets sold to the nearest corporate neighbor. Sad times indeed.
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