Peeling Paint on 2007 RTS

bobpres
09-27-2006, 04:35 PM
Is there a TSB that covers peeling paint? I couldn't find an actual TSB number to take to the dealer. I have an '07 RTS (silver) and found two spots on the front bumper cover that are peeling. While it is possible that someone gave the front end a "love tap" in a parking lot, I can find no scuffs/scratches to go with the peeling paint. Before I go to the dealership, it would be nice to know if there is a TSB for this problem. Thanks. (VIN ends in: 7H502675)



Update (10/04/06): Finally had the time to take my RL to the dealer about the front bumper paint. They didn't even blink. Got an appointment for Monday and I even get a loaner!! I'll update when the paint is done.

BillB
10-04-2006, 05:53 PM
http://www.navhelp.com/tsb.zip

There is a site attached above that is maintained by one of the members, PAULMOONEY. I trust his list to have the full TSB accounting. If you can't find it in here, it probably does not exist.

bobpres
10-05-2006, 01:58 PM
Thanks for the help BillB. I don't think they apply to my paint problem, but the list is good to have.

BillB
10-05-2006, 05:22 PM
I am pretty sure that your peeling paint has not yet been addressed by Honda as something they will fix for free, if it is broke - no questions asked (the simple meaning of a TSB). However, there have been many complaints such as yours about paint imperfections and they have been from way back in beginning of this forum, so it does not seem to be any set group of serial numbers. Most do talk about the paint on the plastic surfaces lke bumpers and grill area and I can point to my own that has a paint flake on one of the exterior door handle inserts.

Bacpacr
01-12-2007, 12:10 PM
Mine is going to the shop for peeling paint on the left rear bumper where the rubber and metal meet four inches back from left wheel well. No problem with the dealership repainting bumper.

06steelblueridgeline
01-12-2007, 08:53 PM
just take it back to the dealership and show them they might pay for it to get painted. if that was doen from the factory they will pay for it.

Andy-Montreal
01-12-2007, 09:03 PM
Whenever you have an issue such as this one but particularly on the front or rear bumper itself, advise the dealer that you are expecting his body shop to remove the bumper from the truck prior to preparation and paint.

This will help avoid overspray and oversanding as well as paint flash between body panels.

notoriousmr
03-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks Andy thats good to know!:cool:

xridgelinex
03-16-2007, 05:17 PM
The rear bumper cover is prone to peeling between the cover and truck by the wheel wells due to miss alignment.

I have had it repainted twice at no charge. They finally realized the problem and put it back together correctly.

ConqSoft
03-16-2007, 05:30 PM
The rear bumper cover is prone to peeling between the cover and truck by the wheel wells due to miss alignment.

I have had it repainted twice at no charge. They finally realized the problem and put it back together correctly.


Good to know. Mine has a spot in that exact location. I'm taking it in tomorrow to let them look at it.

ConqSoft
03-19-2007, 02:51 PM
The dealer is repainting mine too, no questions asked. They're going to remove the panel, paint it and bake it all day Wednesday.

The service guy said they've seen it a few other times, and that it was probably caused when the factory assembled the parts before the paint was fully cured.

Andy-Montreal
03-19-2007, 03:37 PM
The service guy said they've seen it a few other times, and that it was probably caused when the factory assembled the parts before the paint was fully cured.

Fresh paint prior to a full cure is more flexible than cured paint therefore the service advisor's advice was incorrect. The primary reason for flaking paint is poor or lack of adequate surface preparation prior to painting.

Since the paint flaking starts at the edges where the bumper meets the fender, the handling of the bumper may have contaminated the edges with oils or other foreign material. Usually on most vehicle paint ass'y lines, items such as doors, sunroof panels, bumper skins and the like trail behind on a separate conveyor when passing thru the paint process.

I'd love to see how the bumper skins are manipulated thru the paint booth together with the body. Perhaps the answer lies within.....;)

ConqSoft
03-22-2007, 08:27 AM
So I get my truck back and it has an extra 30 miles on it from when I dropped it off. Apparently the dealer allowed some third party body shop employee drive my brand new truck to their shop to do the work, without informing me beforehand. He said that most Honda dealers don't have onsite body shops, and this was standard. Wouldn't it have made more sense to just remove the bumper there, and send that to the body shop?

Then, he doesn't even offer any type of compensation for putting the miles on my new truck, that I just purchased there, that had a paint defect that was no fault of mine. I practically had to demand that I get some type of reimbursement, for the gas used at a minimum.

In other news, the paint work looks decent, but we'll see how it holds up.

xridgelinex
03-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Unless your bumper cover is aligned correctly, the peeling will happen again. It has with mine twice (both repainted free). When I went recently to get a faulty taillight replaced, they finally aligned the bumper cover correctly.

My dealer told me that they do not have a paint shop and had to send it out. Luckily it is only 2/10's of a mile away.

StoneRidge07
03-22-2007, 05:15 PM
I found that over the winter my paint chipped in couple of places and some of them are noticable. You think they will fix something like this at the dealership for no cost? Let me know what you guys think?

Andy-Montreal
03-22-2007, 08:37 PM
Unless your bumper cover is aligned correctly, the peeling will happen again. It has with mine twice (both repainted free). When I went recently to get a faulty taillight replaced, they finally aligned the bumper cover correctly.

My dealer told me that they do not have a paint shop and had to send it out. Luckily it is only 2/10's of a mile away.

Flaking paint is a direct result of improper surface preparation.

There is NO adjustment or alignment procedure for the front and rear bumper skins. The bumper skins can only be mounted one way with zero play adjustment.

If your dealer had to repaint your bumper twice, they are not adequately preparing the surface prior to painting or they are not using a flexible agent in the primer and in the paint.