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: "Check Fuel Cap" warning


Octavivs
05-30-2005, 10:25 AM
Anyone had this problem or know how to get warning to go off. I have "checked" the fuel cap many times, it is fine but warning keeps coming back.

shortspark
05-30-2005, 02:54 PM
I do not have the problem you described but I did a test myself. The book says the light will come on if you do not turn the cap a full three clicks. I did not do this on purpose and sure enough, the light came on. Be sure you hear three clicks before closing the gas access door.

Truckin'
05-30-2005, 03:42 PM
There's another post on this. I found it using "search" with the phrase "fuel cap."

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=822&highlight=fuel

Octavivs
05-30-2005, 06:51 PM
Thanks. I just looked at the prior thread. A little more worried now because there are no posts as to if it was actually fixed. The two people who had the issue said it did not seem to be a fuel cap issue. In my case I am hoping it is the number of clicks. Cap says "Tighten to Click" so I interpreted as one click. My Toyota minivan say specifically tighten three clicks so I was just following directions. We'll see. Hasn't gone off yet but manual says may take three days. It truly is annoying.

Whaleya
05-30-2005, 07:04 PM
For emissions compliance, one item the computer checks is the pressure/vacumn in the tank when you are driving. The idea is to verify that the gas vapors aren't escaping out.

If the cap is on tight (vapor tight), you may have a bad sensor, a leak in the system or a bad gas cap.

doubledutyemt
05-30-2005, 08:05 PM
OK< MINE has gone off and it happened on a hot day when the tank was low on fuel. I stopped the truck, shut it off, removed and retightened the cap. The warning was still on, but AFTER I shut the vehicle off later on and restarted it, the fault went away. My Honda parts dealer says all Hondas have sensitive vacuum sensors...Anyone else heard that?

rdhplano
05-30-2005, 08:44 PM
Thanks. I just looked at the prior thread. A little more worried now because there are no posts as to if it was actually fixed. The two people who had the issue said it did not seem to be a fuel cap issue. In my case I am hoping it is the number of clicks. Cap says "Tighten to Click" so I interpreted as one click. My Toyota minivan say specifically tighten three clicks so I was just following directions. We'll see. Hasn't gone off yet but manual says may take three days. It truly is annoying.


Octavivs --- I have had the problem for a month. The 1st time, I re-tightened the gas cap and waited a week. Took it into the dealer and they "reset the on board computer". Two weeks later, the warning came back. I am convinced that it is not my tightening of the gas cap. I have been watching that and doing 3++ more clicks. The warning msg has now been on again for 2+ weeks and I am using my second tankful of gas. I have not had time to take it in again. It is real irritating as you know. The other ROC member that has the problem has not been able to get to the dealer yet. But clearly it has been greater than 3 days for them. I am not encouraged that my dealer knows what to do as we had to prove to the service advisor that the Ridgeline gave this warning. So I think they just reset the "on board" and have not looked into what is really causing the problem. :mad: So if you take it in please do comment on what was done. Thanks

bellteck
05-31-2005, 07:41 AM
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zero
05-31-2005, 10:45 AM
Thanks for the info Bellteck. I'll be sure to tighten the gas cap to at least 3 clicks.

Octavivs
05-31-2005, 04:27 PM
Thanks for all the comments. Still flashing check cap. I think it is now more than three days, because I did tighten it multiple clicks the first time it happend, just didn't count until yesterday, so it is official only 24 hours. Will keep you posted. I had the leak problem and my dealer was great so if I do take it in I think they will be again at least I hope.

Octavivs
06-06-2005, 01:16 PM
Well, my check fuel cap light stayed on until today. Took it in to dealer and an hour and 40 minutes later I was told I was not tightening the cap tightly enough. Also informed that if I keep doing that beyond 40,000 miles I will be responsible for a $50 charge each event. Have to say this made me very angry. I just bought a vehicle and have done everything the manual said and they point the finger at me. I was very impressed with this service department when they fixed the leak, very disturbed by them now.

swampler
06-06-2005, 01:50 PM
I just got this warning for the 1st time today! :mad:

swampler
06-08-2005, 09:00 PM
Anyone get a solution from Honda for this yet? Is there anyway to clear the message myself? If I push "select," the display will go to mileage, but Check Fuel Cap comes back upon restart as well as remaining in the cycle (when pressing select it will show the message again as it cycles through).

SSquire
06-09-2005, 06:43 AM
My manual says to hold in the Reset button (It will also reset Trip A or B).

I'll have to check the part number at lunch to see if its the new one...

swampler
06-09-2005, 07:04 AM
Couldn't find that info in my manual, but I'll try it at my next fillup.

Thanks.

SSquire
06-09-2005, 07:09 AM
I'll try to remember to double-check it tonight. I flipped through the whole thing and last night and having seen this topic, I read that section. Having flipped through the entire thing though, I can't remember it all... lol

SSquire
06-10-2005, 01:41 PM
It is the new manual (602), it says to hold the reset button until the message goes away. Also says to check the cap first, duh.

rdhplano
06-10-2005, 05:06 PM
There are 2 threads on this issue --- check fuel cap message and fuel cap warning. Here is what I posted yesterday on the other thread. FYI ---


Took the RL to the dealer again last Friday. As previously reported, over the last 45 days, I have had the "check fuel Cap " msg come on, took to dealer, msg came back on, then the "check engine" icon came on. The dealer did take the problem serious this time. The work order states "small leak in evap system between PCS and fuel tank...called techline....ran tests and finally used smoke machine to find crack in canister at line nipple. replaced and ran function test it passed"

All the msg lights are off. So it looks like it is fixed. Time will tell.

So I have been contacted by 4 people that have the "check fuel cap" msg. Here is what I would do. The 1st item is to determine if it really is the cap. Once you notice the "check fuel cap" msg, fill the tank, make sure the cap is secure, reset the msg by pressing "reset" on the dash and wait 3+ days or 50 miles. If the light stays on, take to the dealer and get them to take you seriously that you know how to put the cap on.

Rdhplano

Northwood
07-27-2005, 09:28 PM
There are 2 threads on this issue --- check fuel cap message and fuel cap warning. Here is what I posted yesterday on the other thread. FYI ---


Took the RL to the dealer again last Friday. As previously reported, over the last 45 days, I have had the "check fuel Cap " msg come on, took to dealer, msg came back on, then the "check engine" icon came on. The dealer did take the problem serious this time. The work order states "small leak in evap system between PCS and fuel tank...called techline....ran tests and finally used smoke machine to find crack in canister at line nipple. replaced and ran function test it passed"

All the msg lights are off. So it looks like it is fixed. Time will tell.

So I have been contacted by 4 people that have the "check fuel cap" msg. Here is what I would do. The 1st item is to determine if it really is the cap. Once you notice the "check fuel cap" msg, fill the tank, make sure the cap is secure, reset the msg by pressing "reset" on the dash and wait 3+ days or 50 miles. If the light stays on, take to the dealer and get them to take you seriously that you know how to put the cap on.

Rdhplano
Finally got mine fixed too.
Exactly the same deal as you rdhplano.
Reset my warning for 2 and a half months and the check engine light
finally came on sunday.
Called my dealer service guy on monday and he squeezed me in.
I told them your story and they found it had a leak and bad sensor.
I got it back tuesday with no warning lights on my dash, an oil change and
the tow package installed. (I paid for those. :rolleyes: )
It's like a brand new truck!
Me happy. :D

swampler
07-28-2005, 06:38 AM
My light finally went off on its own after about 3000 miles of driving with the warning, so I couldn't get it checked at my oil change.

eridge
09-16-2006, 09:47 PM
:mad: We don't even have a week with our Ridgeline and we got the "tighten fule cap" message. We are extremely frustrated and it seems that other owners had the same issue and there is not a clear answer to the problem. Any help? Should I wait a couple of days to see if the warning goes away? Should I call the dealer? Has anyone experienced this problem within 6 days of getting a new Ridgleline? Thanks :(

eridge
09-19-2006, 08:16 PM
My RTL 2007 had the same problem; I am going to the dealer this Saturday. Please let me know if someone has an answer to the problem.

MontanaFred
09-20-2006, 04:52 AM
The user manual says it usually will go off in about 5 days. It is probably nothing to worry about. Even when mine changed into the engine light the dealer just reset it and everything is fine. The check fuel cap message has come on for me twice in 16,000 miles and I know I did tighten the cap enough.

xd9x19
09-20-2006, 10:06 AM
The fuel cap message appeared on my display about 2 weeks ago about 1/4 of the way into a tank of fuel. Tightened the cap a couple of clicks and it went off about 2 days and 150 miles later. I did not fill up during this time or take the cap off.

outtaline
09-20-2006, 04:31 PM
I have cut the "leash" off the gas cap and left the tab so it can still be hung on the filler door. This has been done on many of my cars so it does NOT get caught under the cap.
Another thing , now that I think about it, when mine came on I was parked on a sideways incline with the passengers side down. The tank was pretty full. Wonder if it could have flowed into the canister line and blocked it......They say not to top off as it will load the canister up, hmmmm.

bschafer
09-27-2006, 09:32 AM
I filled my truck up with 93 octane and 1.5 days later the fuel cap waring light came on. I checked the cap a couple of times and after that didn't work, I topped off the tank with 87 octane. After 3 days of pressing the reset button at start-up, I called my dealer. They said to bring it in for a reset since it would not turn off by itself. As luck would have it, the next time I started my truck the warning was gone! It has been 1 week and it hasn't been on since. Maybe my dealer reset the light via satellite? I don't think so!

Hornetman
10-08-2006, 12:13 PM
Well 3200 miles and about half way through this tank of gas, come out of Wally World from shopping and I get the fuel cap warning. Read this thread when I joined and have always made it a point to tighten my fuel cap 4 or 5 or 6 clicks. Actually I've done that on my last 3 vehicles. I'll give it a few days, dealer is 50 miles away so I'll have to call about the tranny too! Hasn't acted up on me but if it is a software upgrade I'm going to have them do it. I'll see if they try to hassle me or not.

Hornetman
10-12-2006, 07:55 PM
Well it went away yesterday after I drove to work. About 20 miles from home. I'll wait and see if it comes back. I guess I put about 150 miles on it. Reset at start up everytime .

djeaux
10-13-2006, 07:38 AM
I would be curious to know if you experience lower-than-normal gas mileage on the tank when the "Tighten Gas Cap" warning appeared. I've been getting soling 19 mpg & then got 16 mpg when the warning showed up... (It may also be inaccurate gas pumps, since that tank was purchased at a different station.)

bigwoo572
02-24-2009, 12:30 PM
I had the same problem. The owner's manual said that the message would go away in 3 days if there was nothing wrong. I waited 4 days, the message was still on, so made a service appointment as the dealer advised me to do when I called him the first day. They turned the message off after finding no problem and charged me $37.79 for the diagnosis. When I talked to the service rep he said it would have gone off after so many days and miles. I called Honda to complain about the discrepancy between the owner's manual and the dealer's advice and she said I should follow the manual and that the dealer did not know what he was talking about and that I had to pay for the diagnostic test. It seems to me that if the dealer advises me to have something checked then I should trust him and do that, but if the diagnosis is that there is no problem and the message would have gone away on its own, then I should not have to pay. As it turns out, if I had waited longer the message would have gone away and I would not have been out the $37.79.

davedad
02-24-2009, 01:17 PM
I had the same problem. The owner's manual said that the message would go away in 3 days if there was nothing wrong. I waited 4 days, the message was still on, so made a service appointment as the dealer advised me to do when I called him the first day. They turned the message off after finding no problem and charged me $37.79 for the diagnosis. When I talked to the service rep he said it would have gone off after so many days and miles. I called Honda to complain about the discrepancy between the owner's manual and the dealer's advice and she said I should follow the manual and that the dealer did not know what he was talking about and that I had to pay for the diagnostic test. It seems to me that if the dealer advises me to have something checked then I should trust him and do that, but if the diagnosis is that there is no problem and the message would have gone away on its own, then I should not have to pay. As it turns out, if I had waited longer the message would have gone away and I would not have been out the $37.79.Not sure if your truck is still under warranty, but the dealer here would have done that for "NO CHARGE"

Chris C
04-12-2009, 01:06 PM
I'd sure feel better if there seemed to be a solution posted by members of the forum. My check gas cap warning came on this morning. The tank is at the halfway mark, so it went from full to half with no problem. My vehicle is one year old this month and I've never had the problem before. I completely removed and then reinserted the cap with 3 or more clicks and still get the warning every time I start the vehicle. Hmmmmm? :(

FTM1
04-12-2009, 01:24 PM
I'd sure feel better if there seemed to be a solution posted by members of the forum. My check gas cap warning came on this morning. The tank is at the halfway mark, so it went from full to half with no problem. My vehicle is one year old this month and I've never had the problem before. I completely removed and then reinserted the cap with 3 or more clicks and still get the warning every time I start the vehicle. Hmmmmm? :(
Don't worry about it Chris C this is an newer thread on this subject check the older ones. I thought the cause was weather related because the 3 times it happen to me the Temps had took a dip or rise like it was warm in the 60s then droped to 30s. The cap was always tight but it has you thinking so if the light goes out don't even worry about it. If the thing is just testing itself or whatever its doing. This Ridgeline is just over 2yrs old & slightly over 30,000 miles have seen light 3 times. The times that light has been seen on have been way far apart. Never took back to dealer because of post on this topic on here.

Chris C
04-12-2009, 01:29 PM
I've checked the older ones and didn't find a solution there...........other than taking it into the dealer, which I try not to do. ($$$$$) My Ridge has 32,000 miles on it and this is the first time this has come up. We just had a temperature drop with a passing front.............but heck, it only dropped about 20 degrees over a three day period. I wouldn't think that would affect it. I've experienced much greater drops in less time while driving the Ridge.

FTM1
04-12-2009, 01:54 PM
I've checked the older ones and didn't find a solution there...........other than taking it into the dealer, which I try not to do. ($$$$$) My Ridge has 32,000 miles on it and this is the first time this has come up. We just had a temperature drop with a passing front.............but heck, it only dropped about 20 degrees over a three day period. I wouldn't think that would affect it. I've experienced much greater drops in less time while driving the Ridge.I think the thing is just runninig a self test of some kind. What triggers it is what I don't know based on the last time I saw the light a long time ago it may be due to come on sometime soon.

OldNorske
04-13-2009, 09:50 AM
I'd sure feel better if there seemed to be a solution posted by members of the forum. My check gas cap warning came on this morning. The tank is at the halfway mark, so it went from full to half with no problem. My vehicle is one year old this month and I've never had the problem before. I completely removed and then reinserted the cap with 3 or more clicks and still get the warning every time I start the vehicle. Hmmmmm? :(

I went the dealer route last year when I was having this problem. They checked everything under warranty and couldn't find anything wrong. I had it happen again, so I opened the fill cap and looked at it closely. There is a plastic sealing ring around the most inside portion of the cap. Mine was bound up at an angle. I popped it loose so that it was free. I then put some dielectric grease around it to keep it from sticking or getting bound up again. I have not had the problem since. I hope this helps.:)

canadianguy
04-20-2009, 11:27 AM
Interesting - i just had the same experience with my 09 Ridge. Suddenly just came on. I stopped by the dealership on the way home and they told me not to worry it will clear itself up and sure enough it went away the next day. they said the hondas were very sensative to this.

eSlon
04-20-2009, 03:13 PM
On a rainy day last week my Check Fuel Cap message came on. Finally, after one tank of gas, 200 miles, and almost one full week, the message went away.

Thanks, ROC for saving me the time and $ this message would have caused.

-eSlon

Rib
04-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Coincidentally enough, MINE came on a week or so ago. I had just read either this thread or another one, so I went with the "give it time" approach. Took about 4 or 5 days but, by golly, it fixed itself just like you all said it would.

gfreek
04-21-2009, 04:45 AM
My light came on over this past winter, retightened the cap and it went off after awhile. Hasn't been on since.

cdepuydt
04-21-2009, 11:15 AM
Every time I fill up on tighten the cap, and keep turning it until I hear at least 4 or 5 "clicks". In the 3 1/2 years I have owned my truck, I have only had the Check Fuel Cap warning go off once...and that was when the wife filled the truck up and didn't put the cap on tight enough. After I put it on, made sure it clicked a 1/2 dozen times or so, and the light went off about 1/2 a tank later.

Dom
04-21-2009, 12:36 PM
On a rainy day last week my Check Fuel Cap message came on. Finally, after one tank of gas, 200 miles, and almost one full week, the message went away.

Thanks, ROC for saving me the time and $ this message would have caused.

-eSlon

Last night my Tighten Cap light went on after a whole day of rain.
I appreciate all the info in this thread and will let you know the outcome.

sfflyer8
04-21-2009, 03:26 PM
I just joined the club over lunch today too....I will give it a couple days, inspect it and then fuel up and see how it goes. I will post results in a week or so.

Dom
04-21-2009, 09:33 PM
Last night my Tighten Cap light went on after a whole day of rain.
I appreciate all the info in this thread and will let you know the outcome.

OK, here's how it went:
Monday, 4/20/09, full day of rain, approx 3/4 tank of gas
-RL parked at work outside all day, drove to Mom's in the rain (18 miles)
-start up RL to drive home (3 blocks), TIGHTEN FUEL CAP warning appears
-pull in garage, shut engine, remove & tighten cap for 3 clicks, light stays on:(

Tuesday, 4/21/09, did not go to work (no, not because of warning light, lol)
-RL in garage all day, rain stopped, eventually sun comes out in afternoon
-4:45pm, start up RL, light ON, drive to Post Office (1/4 to 1/2 mile)
-shut engine, remove and tighten cap for 5 clicks, go into Post Office
to mail my never-installed (on my '06 RL) Accessory Grille to the lucky ROC member:)
-4:58pm, start up RL, light is OFF !!!:D
-11:25pm, as I write this note, it's pouring rain, we'll see what happens tomorrow
(now that the light if OFF, I can go to work, lol)

For what it's worth, this fuel cap warning light never came on for the entire life of my '06 RL
(nearly 39 months and 30,691 miles)

sfflyer8
04-22-2009, 06:17 AM
I just joined the club over lunch today too....I will give it a couple days, inspect it and then fuel up and see how it goes. I will post results in a week or so.

And now my story....

4/21: Went out to lunch and sat in my truck to read the paper. To put the windows down and up I had to turn the ignition on, CFC goes one. Checked cap and removed and put back on (one click). Put windows down, CFC on. 70 degrees F', 2 PM.

Got into truck to drive home, CFC still on. 53 degrees F', 9 PM, raining.

4/22: Truck was parked in garage over night, steady tempeture, no moiture. Turn on truck to drive to work, CFC off....62 degrees F', 7 AM.

In my case, I truely believe that it was related to tempeture. Maybe the cap was loose but my last fill up (when the cap was put on) was 5 days ago....

Godskid
05-06-2011, 02:45 PM
Well, I have an 06 and NEVER had the "check fuel cap" message come on. I have 70,000 miles on the truck. Will wait the "3 days" as most people have posted and see what happens.

rollinhonda
05-06-2011, 03:58 PM
A very random problem. But compared with the effort in authenticating birth records, etc. the 'gas cap' problem is real for those who experience it! ;)

wrapper
05-22-2011, 03:54 PM
Hi ya''
i had this happen to me early in the week (Check fuel cap) came on in the dash. plus the engine light came on too ,but i think that was for the oil change that was due (10% oil left). I have the Ultra-gauge in my truck. one thing is that you have to have the truck turned off,but in run position (key) go into menu on the gauge ,go to where it says to clear codes.press clear .and presto no engine light, no warnings in dash. But first make sure cap is on tight tho.
Don

zroger73
05-22-2011, 05:02 PM
Hi ya''
i had this happen to me early in the week (Check fuel cap) came on in the dash. plus the engine light came on too ,but i think that was for the oil change that was due (10% oil left). I have the Ultra-gauge in my truck. one thing is that you have to have the truck turned off,but in run position (key) go into menu on the gauge ,go to where it says to clear codes.press clear .and presto no engine light, no warnings in dash. But first make sure cap is on tight tho. Don

The CHECK ENGINE does not come on when your oil needs to be changed. A CHECK ENGINE light in combination with a CHECK FUEL CAP message is normally the result of the system failing two consecutive EVAP tests. In English, this means that the system assumes a loose fuel cap after the first test failure. If you don't tighten it and it fails another test, it will assume you tightened the fuel cap, but the system continues to leak, so there must be another problem such as a faulty gas gap, cracked hose, leak, etc. Either way, if a loose gas cap was truly the cause, both lights will eventually turn off unless another problem exists.

Also, clearing the codes with a generic scan tool erases code history as well, which can be of value to service personnel in case you do have to have the truck serviced. It can also erase the values learned during the idle learn procedure, which some argue can result in decreased fuel economy unless the procedure is performed again. Clearing the codes also resets the emissions testing monitors. If you live in a jurisdiction that does I/M testing, the vehicle will fail an emissions test until it is driven long enough to pass all tests again.

The moral of this story is that it isn't a good idea to reset codes unless you are certain the problem has been properly diagnosed and repaired. Even then, some repairs following problems resulting in CHECK ENGINE lights specifically discourage resetting the codes due to the emissions testing issue.

wrxSTIcy
06-03-2011, 10:33 AM
I just purchased an 06 2 weeks ago and it now has 52k on the odo, it's always parked outside, it always rains in the NW however, I highly doubt that rain has anything to do with this. My check fuel cap warning went on last night and it still on. Check the cap several times with clicking it atleast 10 times. Is there a fix for this?

Rickman
06-03-2011, 11:12 AM
Mine went on last week too, and after about 5 days it was gone, but replaced with the 30% oil left light, which I went into the info section, cleared it and both messages are gone.

No I did not clear the 30% permanently, just off the dash! :act035:

wrxSTIcy
06-04-2011, 10:25 AM
Mine went on last week too, and after about 5 days it was gone, but replaced with the 30% oil left light, which I went into the info section, cleared it and both messages are gone.

No I did not clear the 30% permanently, just off the dash! :act035:

How do u do that?

wrxSTIcy
06-05-2011, 12:32 PM
Okay guys, MY PROBLEM IS FIXED. So I read on another page somewhere, I removed the gas cap. took out the O-Ring seal that is in the gas cap (removed with just the car key) then flipped it, clicked the gas cap a few times, started the car up, drove it for about 10 mins, parked it for about an hour and the warning light was still on, (it has been cold and rainy lately, but it was sunny and hot yesterday) started it back up and BAM! the light was off. Hope this works for you guys too!

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dopey621
06-07-2011, 08:44 PM
My Ridgeline has 101K miles and the Check Fuel Cap indicator went on this morning for the first time. I went to Firestone Complete Auto Repair and they said to buy a new fuel cap because the O-ring could be worn. It looked a little worn down so I bought a new one from O'Reilly's for $8. I drove for about 10 min and indicator stayed on. I'll keep you guys posted.

OldNorske
06-08-2011, 02:18 PM
My Ridgeline has 101K miles and the Check Fuel Cap indicator went on this morning for the first time. I went to Firestone Complete Auto Repair and they said to buy a new fuel cap because the O-ring could be worn. It looked a little worn down so I bought a new one from O'Reilly's for $8. I drove for about 10 min and indicator stayed on. I'll keep you guys posted.


If you are going to replace it, replace it with an OEM part (go to a dealer).

I did and it solved the problem.

bd1baird
07-29-2011, 08:11 AM
:mad: We don't even have a week with our Ridgeline and we got the "tighten fule cap" message. We are extremely frustrated and it seems that other owners had the same issue and there is not a clear answer to the problem. Any help? Should I wait a couple of days to see if the warning goes away? Should I call the dealer? Has anyone experienced this problem within 6 days of getting a new Ridgleline? Thanks :(

Try zero days!! - was driving home with it for the first time 2 days ago! Printing solutions out, cause taking back to dealership to get this and some other items fixed. Had mine 2 days now and that tighten gas cap is driving me NUTS!! Also - haven't searched for this issue yet, but anyone else having problems OPENING the cover? I pull that lever and nothing!! Am going to have to have someone with me if I ever fill up with gas before taking it back!! grrrrr.......Love my girl, but getting a new one with warning lights??? unacceptable!!!

kevin_stevens
07-29-2011, 09:27 PM
If the dealer is unresponsive on this ("You're too dumb to tighten a gas cap", doesn't do EVAP test, tries to charge you to reset the codes, etc.); threaten them with going to the EPA about it.

This whole mechanism doesn't have anything to do with performance, it's part of the mandated system to ensure your vehicle isn't leaking fuel vapors. Fixing it is part of the EPA warranty, and they will not be amused if you write/call them and say that Honda is not resolving the issue.

Mentioning this as your next step to the service manager should be sufficient to get thorough diagnistic and repair from your dealer.

KeS

bd1baird
08-02-2011, 08:19 AM
My Salesman just dropped off a loaner car, and picked up my Ridge to address this problem and a couple of others - I will let you know the outcome....

Diana

bd1baird
08-04-2011, 07:15 PM
Well, Just got her back, and halfway home - light came back on. Reported it immediately to them, and they are going to send someone back out with a loaner and pick her up again.....and the saga continues....

Like others, I guess they felt that I didn't know how to tighten a fuel cap correctly. Even after I showed them these posts, where the problem was found! I guess we all have to go through their "steps" - but.....they keep giving me freebies, gas, door edge guards.....wonder what they will give me this time for the inconvenience!!

She has been in the shop for longer than I have had her!

Diana

bd1baird
08-07-2011, 08:49 PM
Well, Update - Next day after last post (Friday), the salesman came and picked her up again. Took her back to get this looked at AGAIN - And Again, said he didn't need the forum posts telling what the problem was....

Mechanics said "CS that we have reset the check gas cap message and light has come back on again. Mechanic who reset last time found no code at this time, but Salesman saw warning light on. Performed evap test and passed. Found fuel retainer ring binding possibly causing problem. Lubed and improved."

He brought her back to me at almost quitting time, Warning light appeared WHILE HE WAS DRIVING IT!! TG!!

This time, ASKED for the forum diagnosis!! They are coming again tomorrow to pick her up, and bring me a loaner car.

Again, will update! At least this time, I am not being treated as "the woman who doesn't know how to tighten a gas cap"!!

bd1baird
08-11-2011, 03:21 PM
Well, they didn't pick it up until Tuesday (and the stupid man who picked it up AGAIN asked if I tightened the gas cap :act047:), and have been in the loaner car since (Honda Pilot). NOW they are taking me seriously. They replaced the gas cap, and then my salesman drove it. Light came back on. Now HONDA wants them to replace the "Purge Solenoid". It has to come in from California, so it will be Saturday at the earliest before it arrives. They will still keep it after that, and make sure that this solves the problem. NEVER HAS FAILED THE TESTS at any point in all of this!!! So this has the maintenence manager worried as to why....IDK - know absolutely NOTHING about this sort of thing!!

:act051: to be continued.......

Dekonick
08-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Mine came on the other day - checked gas cap, it was tight (shocking!) and light would not go away. Turned off truck, re-started truck and light has gone... I will keep an eye out to see if it re-appears. At least if it does, I know where to point them... not that they will listen... :act060:

bd1baird
08-18-2011, 09:50 AM
So, Got her back yesterday afternoon - they replaced the Purge Solenoid. So far, no stupid light. Have knocked on everything "wood" in this place now. Tomorrow, move daughter back into college dorm in Austin - will take the RL and test.....Hopefully, gone for good.

Now, has to go back to body shop to get scratch they put on her repaired. They tried to "touch it up" but looks like crap.

.......and the saga continues......taking deep breaths and counting to 10......

bd1baird
08-18-2011, 10:01 AM
Mine came on the other day - checked gas cap, it was tight (shocking!) and light would not go away. Turned off truck, re-started truck and light has gone... I will keep an eye out to see if it re-appears. At least if it does, I know where to point them... not that they will listen... :act060:

I am hoping yours was just a fluke.....If not, well, you could always try and show them this - mine wouldn't look at it until the 4th time. Good Luck and let me know!

schwejo
08-18-2011, 10:30 AM
Hi,

Safe to say that quite a few are following this. Is it possible that you are referring to the purge valve? I, like many, have had this occasional issue (every couple months, or if a significant weather change) since 2006 when the truck was new. Ive been to the dealer several times, and had the same admonishment about not closing the fuel cap. I wont go on any more because there are several other threads with great detail about others different experiences.

One thing that is for certain at least in CA is that you will fail an emissions test if the warning is being displayed or the code was just cleared, but the truck hasn't completed its test of the system. I have the tool to reset the error flag and turn off the warning, but the emissions tester will still know that I just turned off the message and wont pass me until such time as the truck would have self tested and hopefully determined that the error was only a fluke.

I have records from Honda service going back to 2006 when the truck was new and if they are able to fix yours, I'm going to go back to them and insist that they treat this as a condition that they should have fixed when the truck still had warranty. Thanks!

bd1baird
08-18-2011, 02:55 PM
It is the same in Texas, failing inspection because of this - which is why if they couldn't/can't get fixed, was not accepting the truck.

The Service Manager called it a Purge Solenoid. I will definitely post here when I get back from Austin tomorrow and let you know if this appears to have solved the problem.

Some may think it silly/trivial that I am going to these lengths, but dang it! This is my BRAND NEW TRUCK! I only had 30 minutes before it started lighting up my dashboard!

bd1baird
08-19-2011, 05:32 PM
From the time I have received my girl back, I have had no warning light. Today, we drove to Austin and back. 340 miles round trip, 107 degree heat.....NO WARNING LIGHT!!! Looks good that they have actually solved the problem. :act035:

For those of you tolerating the light, resetting yourselves.....I will only post again in this thread if the light comes back on.

Up to you as to how long you wait before alerting your respective dealers as to possible solution.

speedlever
08-20-2011, 05:38 AM
Stuff happens even with the best of them out there, but it is still frustrating. Don't let this minor issue dampen your enjoyment of your new RL. Hopefully this is the only issue you'll encounter.

ROTORRAY
08-20-2011, 10:02 AM
Schwejo, what is the "tool" you have to reset this thing and where did you get it. Also its approximate cost. Thanx. I'm sure others would also like to know this info.....

schwejo
08-20-2011, 01:03 PM
What I have is the Craftsman 87702 CanOBD2 diagnostic tool. Its a Sears re badged CanOBD2 model 3100e. I called CanOBD2 directly to confirm that the Sears model had all the same firmware support if necessary from them and they said its the identical unit, just red instead of blue. Just looking on line now they cost $90 but I only paid $70 with some sort of fathers day coupon last year. This model is closer to the lower end when looking at the range of these tools. I only bought the Craftsman one because it was ~$20 cheaper than the similar 3100e at Walmart and the Craftsman has a 1 year longer warranty, though I didn't really expect any problems. This company has a good reputation. Was also cheaper to order on line and pick up at the store than the off the shelf price. Walmart also has the CanOBD2 line as do most car parts stores, and Costco used to have a smaller unit for ~$30, though I havnt seen it recently. I primarily purchased it to trouble shoot some issues with a Jeep Liberty. It pretty quickly becomes a necessity when working on todays engines. You used to be able to borrow these things from car parts stores, but someone in CA thought that was a bad idea and blocked it.

Not sure how long the links will remain current, but as of Aug 20, this is what I have

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-canobd2-diagnostic-tool-trade/p-00987702000P

http://www.canobd2.com/Products/ToolDetail.aspx?Id=7C9A44F5E21F415d9BA9F6E333FAEC1 F

ROTORRAY
08-20-2011, 01:25 PM
THANKS!!! That was a great help. Was mainly interested in a unit which would erase the trouble light, which this apparently does. It's $90 at Sears if you pick it up at the store (shipping might vary, I guess). Might "tighte fuel cap" warning went off as suddenly as it came on. Seems to be a common problem but here in Calif it's major grief at smog check time. Price of this unit is cheaper than having the dealer shut it off, if they don't comp it, that is.

Again, THANKS.

MikeT
09-26-2011, 04:12 PM
Okay, I had the Check Fuel Cap light on for a week without the Check Engine Light. I cleared the CFC by disconnecting the battery for ten minutes and then reconnecting it.

I then performed the Idle Learn Procedure.

Now, when I have the key in the second ignition position (Ignition II) after about 30 to 40 seconds, the CEL blink 5 times. Anyone out there know what the five CEL blinks means?

Hondarado
09-26-2011, 04:37 PM
I just had my Fuel cap light come on...the cap was tight...i hit the rest switch for the Mile Gauge and it went out....:act002: So far twice it came on and both times it reset...This is one miner Hic cup from Honda...But I will live with it...:act006:

zroger73
09-26-2011, 05:36 PM
Okay, I had the Check Fuel Cap light on for a week without the Check Engine Light. I cleared the CFC by disconnecting the battery for ten minutes and then reconnecting it.

I then performed the Idle Learn Procedure.

Now, when I have the key in the second ignition position (Ignition II) after about 30 to 40 seconds, the CEL blink 5 times. Anyone out there know what the five CEL blinks means?

OBD II readiness monitors were reset during the disconnect. They will complete at some point depending on your drive cycle.

roakey
11-27-2011, 11:20 PM
I tighten it to "a bunch of clicks". The design is to avoid over tightening, so just go for it.

Roak

Chris C
11-28-2011, 05:51 AM
I agree with Roak. The "clicks" are so you can't tighten it any tighter. I've driven my '08 Ridge over 104,000 miles now and I've only had the gas cap warning happen twice. Loosened and tightened it and within a few miles the warning was cancelled.

breye
11-28-2011, 06:36 AM
A little more worried now because there are no posts as to if it was actually fixed. The two people who had the issue said it did not seem to be a fuel cap issue. In my case I am hoping it is the number of clicks. Cap says "Tighten to Click" so I interpreted as one click. My Toyota minivan say specifically tighten three clicks so I was just following directions.

Post #23 http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41166&page=3

ff157
11-28-2011, 07:43 AM
My 2011 had this issue the third day I owned it. After reading the posts here, I now tighten the cap to about 10 clicks. It has not happened since??????

SnowBlind
12-31-2011, 08:00 AM
Brilliant! Didn't even think of using my CanOBD2 code reader to clear the code and get rid of the annoying "Tighten Fuel Cap" message.

If 2 heads are better than one, the ROC is 20,000+ heads are better than one.

Thanks all and have a safe and happy new year.

n4dou
01-21-2012, 11:07 AM
My check fuel cap warning came on for the first time at 53,000 miles. I fixed it by using my key to pull the seal back on the gas cap and then turned the cap until it clicked about 10 times. That was a couple of weeks ago and it has not reappeared. I appreciate all the advice that has appeared in this thread.

bd1baird
01-31-2012, 01:39 PM
Update to my "tighten fuel cap" warning light - Fixed in middle August by replacing the PURGE SOLENOID. Have had no issues since - 5 months! I love my Ridge more and more everyday!! Good Luck everyone!

speedlever
01-31-2012, 06:10 PM
Interesting. Purge solenoid doesn't show in my FSM. Is there another name for it?