Cold Feet Question? [Archive] - Honda Ridgeline Owners Club Forums

: Cold Feet Question?


Spotter
01-17-2007, 02:23 PM
Why does my heater blow everywhere else except the floor when I have the the mode switch in the "Floor Only" position. Turning the mode switch from the "Windshield/Floor" position to the "Floor Only" position does not increase the airflow to the floor as I would expect. Shutting the side vents should not be a solution but is the only one the dealer could come up with.
Spotter

Truckin'
01-17-2007, 04:35 PM
As I told you on the phone, my feet don't feel warm in the truck either. I don't recall ever putting it on foot only, but I have split it (dash and foot?). However, the cab gets toasty very fast. I wish my Jeep had a heater like this truck.

Thanks for giving me a call today so that we could exchange phone and email information with you. BIGGUY will be calling you back when he gets home from work with his observations and ideas. We hope to meet up with you again soon.

jpphoto
01-17-2007, 04:53 PM
I have the same problem. Once it gets cold outside I like most people wear a coat, so I do not need it blowing on my chest. The service manual says that the air on "foot only" will come out the vents like this; out the two outside vents and the two floor vents if I remember correctly. I get a weak trickle even when I turn the outside vent off. In the "floor only" position my thinking would be that most of the air would go to the floor, unfortunately most goes to the outside vents and then to the passenger side. First auto that I have ever had "trouble" with the heater.

gr8daneh
01-17-2007, 04:56 PM
You might try cleaning the cabin filter. I read somewhere in the post that shows the cabin filter replacement process that this cleaning had helped increase perceived airflow.


Good Luck! :)

codex57
01-17-2007, 05:14 PM
Something's definitely wrong. When I have it on windshield/feet, the bottom barely blows any air out. My feet start to get warm only when I put it on feet only.

TMF
01-17-2007, 06:44 PM
This is interesting... we are in our first cold snap this winter and I noticed the same thing. I have ~6 mo. and 7k on it. I'll have a service done sometime in Feb. and will discuss with the service department. If anyone speaks with them in advance I'd love to hear the feedback.

T

russiarulez
01-19-2007, 02:32 PM
I noticed this also. My feet feel cold even if I have it set to blow on feet. I can feel it blow hot air down there if I stick my hand in there, but my feet and legs are still feeling cold. Maybe its the way the airflow is directed?

UglyTruckling
01-19-2007, 02:53 PM
After reading these posts, I tried out my feet-only setting the other night -- and had the same problem -- there's a very little bit of heat coming out near my feet, but more still comes out through the side and middle vents, despite the feet-only setting. Weird.

bongus
01-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Dang...now I have another thing to try out. Isn't this thing fun? :cool:

TMF
01-19-2007, 07:03 PM
This is interesting... we are in our first cold snap this winter and I noticed the same thing. I have ~6 mo. and 7k on it. I'll have a service done sometime in Feb. and will discuss with the service department. If anyone speaks with them in advance I'd love to hear the feedback.

T

Updated observation... when only on the floor setting it appears to push out the side vents, the floor vents (which are close to the center of the console), and the windshield vents... for some reason my feet feel cold, but I don't know why. Maybe it's because of how much heat is made in general? I've never had a vehicle that heated this quickly.

FYI... don't test these things while driving down the road like I tried... :(

MontanaFred
01-19-2007, 07:15 PM
My Ridgeline heats up fast and clears the windshield of fog quickly but I also noticed that my feet were cold even after I push the "feet only" button. I've gotten used to it and it doesn't bug me at all any more.:)

TMF
01-20-2007, 06:47 AM
My Ridgeline heats up fast and clears the windshield of fog quickly but I also noticed that my feet were cold even after I push the "feet only" button. I've gotten used to it and it doesn't bug me at all any more.:)

Said the man from Montana... and it does get kind of cold up there, huh? I feel like such a wimp!

I doesn't bother me either I just find it curious.

JerseyRidge
01-28-2007, 06:30 PM
We are into our first real cold snap here in NJ,and I have just discovered this problem first hand !!! Not Happy with THAT !!! :mad: Brrrrrrr !!!(at 5:40 AM)..................... and that only makes me madder,when I think about how my dealership,SCREWED me out of the"free" remote starter !!! :mad: :mad: !!!

Honda Jim
01-31-2007, 09:49 AM
Interesting--I noticed that when I split the windshield/floor, the floor doesn't warm up, and both outside dash vents blow, along with the windshield--I close the vents manually, and that helps with the airflow to the windshield, but the floor still doesn't heat up well--I also have found that the only way to get warm air into the rear seat for the kids is to have the airflow set to dashboard only, if split to dash and feet, they get virtually no warm air in the back until the cabin has completely warmed up.

clions72
01-31-2007, 10:13 PM
I think all you guys need to put on a warmer pair of socks, lol

CUinaRidge
02-01-2007, 06:58 PM
I usually keep the setting on defrost/floor selection....
Feet normally don't get cold but...

It seemed the other day when I had it on AUTO only more warm air pumped to the floor...

Illusion?? I don't know... maybe someone with the cold feet can give it a try and report back...


:)

MontanaFred
02-01-2007, 07:23 PM
Said the man from Montana... and it does get kind of cold up there, huh? I feel like such a wimp!


Yes it does get cold here. They are forcasting wind chill of forty below zero F tonight. Although the actual temperature will only get about ten below the wind will be up to 20 mph. :eek:

TMF
02-01-2007, 07:40 PM
Yes it does get cold here. They are forcasting wind chill of forty below zero F tonight. Although the actual temperature will only get about ten below the wind will be up to 20 mph. :eek:

OUCH!

FYI... I've seen you post several times about how you like the big door grips because of how they help in the wind. I live at the top of a ridge on one side of a narrow valley... constant breeze, but when it gets windy (which is frequently) it rips. The handles really do make it easy to control the way the door opens in the wind.

MontanaFred
02-01-2007, 08:09 PM
OUCH!

FYI... I've seen you post several times about how you like the big door grips because of how they help in the wind. I live at the top of a ridge on one side of a narrow valley... constant breeze, but when it gets windy (which is frequently) it rips. The handles really do make it easy to control the way the door opens in the wind.

Wind can be a challange ... to ones patience. The handles also work well with gloves on. I just checked the Weather Channel and they are saying it will be -29 below zero F here tonight. :confused: It is hard to believe - I think the coldest it has been since I bought my Ridgeline is 24 below zero. Good thing I have an engine block heater!

TMF
02-01-2007, 10:28 PM
Wind can be a challange ... to ones patience. The handles also work well with gloves on. I just checked the Weather Channel and they are saying it will be -29 below zero F here tonight. :confused: It is hard to believe - I think the coldest it has been since I bought my Ridgeline is 24 below zero. Good thing I have an engine block heater!

Does the inside of the cab get warm at all in that kind of cold?

Jay Cee
02-02-2007, 05:49 AM
Did a test. In subzero weather, took boots and socks off while taking the wife to work and tried to feel the amount of heat with the blower on full speed and high heat setting and Floor Only selection. There was alot less airflow directed 'anywhere' in general than any other selection. The little air flow that did exist as heat seemed to be concentrated more to the brake pedal than the accelerator and also higher up towards the shin than at the feet. Just my observation. I think Honda should have designed the blower for more air flow and directed lower towards the feet. That's my opinion anyway.

MontanaFred
02-02-2007, 06:51 AM
Does the inside of the cab get warm at all in that kind of cold?

It takes longer for the engine heat meter needle to move but it does and the cab eventually gets warm. You have to scrap all the ice off your windshield because if it is cold enough the windshield never gets warm enough to melt ice - especially if you are moving.

The forcast for -29 was wrong as I thought. It only got about 5 below.

Otter68
02-02-2007, 09:27 AM
We've had unusually cold weather in the Denver-metro area since Christmas, and I've definitely noticed this. I think the 2 side vents are always active no matter which mode you choose unless you close them. When closed, the air output SHOULD increase according to the mode.

When set to x + floor, the output is very weak from the floor vents. When set to floor only with the side vents closed, the output seems acceptable, but (as stated previously) is directed more towards my shins or the "center" of the foot area. If the air was directed towards the pedal or "front" area, I think it would actually work as needed.

Seems like poor floor-airflow engineering.

Also, I agree that the AUTO setting doesn't provide adequate heating to the back seat. I use dash + floor and the whole truck (except my feet) seems to warm-up very quickly.

BillB
02-05-2007, 02:58 PM
Also, I agree that the AUTO setting doesn't provide adequate heating to the back seat.

AUTO definitely diverts air flow to the defroster all the time. This steals from the floor and side dash vents. I definitely don't think Honda designed this truck for a very cold or very hot climate. it does however work fine for average cold and hot like where I live. I have lived in South Florida and went to college on the Canadian border so I do have some reference points to remember not to fondly.

iROC
02-05-2007, 03:07 PM
I put the mode to "floor" and close the side vents. This has seemed to help.

chaz
02-07-2007, 12:16 PM
Has Honda come up with a fix for the cold feet problem? Maybe something to direct the warm air to the floor instead of to your knees and chest.
Does anybody know of any solution.
My old feet get pretty cold and I would like to keep them warm when I am driving my Ridgeline.

Tom Jones
02-07-2007, 12:44 PM
I have noticed the lack of warm air at my feet. This setup defies common sense rules of heating. Heat rises and cold air drops. So one would think put the largest volume of hot air at the feet, it will rise quickly and warm the cabin. I'm sure they have some logic somewhere but it escapes me completely.
Tom

brich
02-07-2007, 01:15 PM
Any thoughts on poor insulation in the floor area as part of why it's so chilly down there? Ya, I know there's a hot engine in front of me but not down near my floor.... :cool:

RiverFisher
02-07-2007, 04:21 PM
I have definitely noticed that the feet are the last thing to warm up in the front seat and there isn't enough hot air blowing on my feet when I select the "floor only" mode, but we may be experiencing a different approach to HVAC (Heating, Ventilation, an Air Conditioning) in a vehicle than we have seen before. Most of us are used to manually controlling where the air blows as well as selecting how much hot or cold that air contains. I am thinking that the Honda engineers have focused more on achieving an overall average temperature in the cab that matches the temperature selected on the display. Depending upon where the temperature sensors are (the feedback mechanism), the system will direct more or less heat (not necessarily air) into the cab.
The last part of your body to warm up is usually your feet, especially when you are sitting down in a bucket seat (restricting blood flow to your lower legs). When I have cold feet (no comments from the peanut gallery :D ), I set it to "floor only" and turn the temperature dial up. While I don't get the instant gratification of a bunch of hot air blowing on the floor, within a few minutes, my feet do actually warm up.
As for the rear seat, the laws of physics were utilized. If you want heat,the heat comes from the floor, if you want cold, the cool comes from the console vents up high.

Wow that was a long winded response to agreeing that my feet get cold in the Ridgeline too. Sorry. I do feel better though.:p

cwsatterlee
03-06-2007, 12:55 PM
I took my truck in for 30K maintenance two weeks ago. I addressed the problem about cold feet. They checked my heater and nothing is wrong. That is just the way it is. I get more hot air from the vents. The dealership told me to close the vents. As far as closing the vents, the floor area did not get any warmer any faster.

Kodiak
03-06-2007, 07:11 PM
If you are experiencing rear seat heat issues, confirm the rear seat heater ducts are routed correctly. When the front system is operated in “floor mode”, the air will flow out of the rear seat floor ducts. The rear console outlets will follow the air-flow from the front system. If it is operated in “panel” mode or bi-level, air will flow out of the rear console ducts. The rear system is passive and will only chase the air flow from the front system.

If you move the front seat all the way forward, you should see the rear seat heater ducts routed through the carpet. If they are not assembled correctly, the ducts may be blowing air under the carpet instead of into the cabin. If you feel they are not working properly, have the dealer confirm the installation and correct if necessary.

Boreal
03-13-2007, 09:24 PM
Here's my $0.02. The floor vents seem to blow a proper amount and temperature of air, but at your shins. What seems to happen after that is that the air flows upward into your face. If you stick your hand under the front seat while you are driving, even after 1/2 hour there is a lot of extremely cold air trapped down there. It seems to be dead air space below your shins, and the cold air just settles in to the lowest spots.

Two possible causes: Improperly designed floor air vent or cold air infiltration somewhere under the seat or tunnel. Since it does eventually warm up after a several hour trip, I doubt it has much to do with infiltration. Therefore, the outlet needs to be redirected and/or spread out to blow directly on the feet, toward the firewall, and under the seat. This would displace the dead cold air space on the floor.

I am going to attach a test piece of duct tape over the vent that directs the heat toward my feet instead of my shins. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Ruhi
05-07-2007, 06:27 PM
It is already summer but let me resurrect the topic anyway. I've driving mine only a week so far and first thing I noticed the heat blowing to my face even when the heater/ac was OFF. There was a considerable heat blowing with a pretty good pace from side and center vents. Outside vent can be directed away and closed but center ones cannot be closed. So I looked in the manual. Turning the circulation button (the one next to the OFF button) stopped the flow. My complaint was getting unwanted hot air on my face/chest. Now I keep the recirculation ON all the times. But then I discovered I couldn't direct this unwanted heat to my feet early in the morning with "feet only" mode. It bothered me a bit. I have never had a car which I had to close the fresh air intake not to get blown out with hot air.
In an older thread (2005), someone mentioned that his dealer fixed "it" but there was no follow up. I would consider this as an "issue" but not just a "oh well... live with it". Has anyone found a solution to this issue yet?
Cheers.