KPtechnologies Group Buy

KPtechnologies is pleased to annouce a group buy for ROC members.

This group buy will run through February 26, 2007 and will feature both the Window Up module and the 'One Touch' sunroof module.

Window Module: Mounts inside the drivers door with a 5 wire connection. Once installed it wis possible to remotely close all windows using the OEM remote by pressing and releasing the 'LOCK' button twice.

This will be a special version of the Honda winow module that will have an output that will enable the closing of the back window with the rest of the windows. However, I don't have any information on how to hook it up, but I did hook it up on a members truck who participated in the last group buy.


'One Touch' Sunroof Module: Allows opening, closing, and tilting of the sunroof without holding the button down! To trigger the module all you do is press and release the desired button twice quickly.


KPtechnologies specializes in unique products that integrate seamlessly with OEM electronics. Neither KPtechnologies products alter or remove any OEM feature/function.

Pricing:
Window Module MSRP - $49.99 + $4.99 shipping
One Touch Sunroof MSRP - $44.99 + $4.99 shipping

0-10 modules: 15% discount
11-15 modules: 20% discount
16-20 modules: 25% discount
21+ modules: 30% discount

With 30% off the window module will cost $34.99 + $3.49 shipping
With 30% off the sunroof module will cost $31.49 + $3.49 shipping
Both modules together will be only $66.48 shipped!!!!

If you buy both/multiple modules at the same time shipping will be free! Each module sold will count towards the total amount (window and sunroof together, not seperately).

To participate in this group buy place your order directly through the KPtechnologies website (http://www.KPtechnologies.com) and in the comments section enter ROC GB - 'ROC USERNAME'.

If you are paying via Paypal you will pay full price up front and your module will ship immediately. As soon as the group buy is over (or when we sell the 21st module) we will calculate the discount and promptly refund the difference to your Paypal account. If you want to pay by check you will most likely want to wait until the final total has been calculated. If you are only interested in a module IF we reach a certain discount level please express that in this thread. That way we can keep track of who is interested when we start to get close to the next level.

This promotion is being offered directly by KPtechnologies, there is no 'middle man' involved.

If you have any questions please let me know. There is quite a bit about this module on the forums if you search.

I will do my best to keep the list as updated as possible with people who have actually paid (as they are the only ones that are counted when it comes to applying discounts)

Thank you all!

Is this the HM20 on the site?

Thanks Kevin for the great offer. For those who are still unsure about the GB, since you are dealing directly with Kevin (the man behind KPTechnologies) he will make sure you get the product. There were some issues with the first GB but it was not initiated by Kevin. Personally, I have the Window Up and Sunroof Mods installed and they work great. If anyone wants an objective opinion about the products, please send me a PM. I have no affiliation with KPTechnologies but I know a good company when I see one. Just my 2¢. :cool:

Is this the HM20 on the site?

Close, but not exactly. This module includes a 200mA (-) output that is designed to work with the back window. The HM-20 does not have this feature.

At this time, we have no plans of actually giving this RL specific module a part number and making it availible through our site.

Besides the extra output it is indentical to the HM-20.

Kevin, I just ordered the window module. I did see that shipping showed as $7.99 on this item... Whatever :)

My order is in... thanks for the GB!

Ordered my window unit, as someone else said the shipping doesn't show the same, but I am sure it will be adjusted in good time.

Yes, order the HM-20, by commenting that this is for the ROC gb we'll make sure you get the right module.

Also, I can adjust shipping if you want, the $7.99 price is for UPS and I wasn't aware that we made that change yet (there had been talk about it, but I didn't know it was put in to effect yet). So, if you want to save a few bucks and ship USPS let me know and I'll refund the $3 difference.

Thanks,

Kevin

We currently have 3 paid modules!

Kevin,

I much prefer UPS on shipping my order. Leave the shipping as is, please don't adjust it. USPS can't find thier butts with both hands on a good day!

Jim

Kevin, I just ordered the window module. I did see that shipping showed as $7.99 on this item... Whatever :)
I just order my second one in a year. Original one is going to my Accord, the new one to the Ridge. To those thinking about it, I say you won't regret it. Maybe we can get enough so that the 16% shipping is "free."
In fact, buy two, they're small. ;)

Kevin,

No need to change shipping. UPS is fine.

I'm not bashing USPS, either, just trying to save you a little hassle :)


Joe

I updated the KPtech support forum with the rear window hook up information.

I believe the rear window motor wire is a thick blue wire, but this will need to verified with a voltmeter.

http://kptechnologies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1395#1395

We are up to 6 modules!

Hi Kevin,

The Motor Close wire is Blue/Red*.
Motor Open is Blue/White*.
Feed to the switch is Blue.

*At least one owner has reported that the Motor Close & Open wires are reversed to that shown in the diagram below, which is scanned from the service manual. Use a multimeter to confirm.

Just placed my order for the Window Rollup Module. :D

What's the total up to now?:cool:

I just ordered a window roll-up module.

How hard is it to install these things anyway?

We are up to 9 paid modules already!
Just under 50% of the way there!

I do have a bit of bad news though. As we operate out of Ohio we are completely covered in snow, and shipping has been delayed. Emails will be automatically sent when the modules do start shipping.

Okay, I ordered one.
I hope this thing is as cool as it seems.

Okay, I ordered one.
I hope this thing is as cool as it seems.

You won't be disappointed. It works exactly as advertised.

...I do have a bit of bad news though. As we operate out of Ohio we are completely covered in snow, and shipping has been delayed. Emails will be automatically sent when the modules do start shipping.


It don't matter to me!, I wont be rolling up or down my windows till april or so..

I'd like the sunroof module only since I purchased the window roll-up module from KPT last summer.

Surprisingly no one has gone for the sunroof module yet. The last gb we did on it (Acura TSX) we sold about 20 of them alone!

Surprisingly no one has gone for the sunroof module yet. The last gb we did on it (Acura TSX) we sold about 20 of them alone!

Hmm, interesting since one of the few things I find annoying on the RL is having to hold the button down to open/close the sunroof.

Surprisingly no one has gone for the sunroof module yet. The last gb we did on it (Acura TSX) we sold about 20 of them alone!

Maybe not so surprising since the moonroof only comes on the RTL trim line (and didn't come on all 2006 RTLs at that).

Any chance someone can post photos showing the rear window motor wire -- the photo guide at KP's website forum for the basic window module installation is beyond excellent!

Hmm, interesting since one of the few things I find annoying on the RL is having to hold the button down to open/close the sunroof.
I don't know about the sunroof as I don't have one on my '06 RTL. :)
Unlike the stock "down" function, once the windows start up, you can release the fob and they will continue on their own.
Kevin, is that true for the sliding window too?

I don't know about the sunroof as I don't have one on my '06 RTL. :)
Unlike the stock "down" function, once the windows start up, you can release the fob and they will continue on their own.
Kevin, is that true for the sliding window too?

I would imagine that the rear window would behave just like the other windows (i.e. windows up = rear slider close). As for the SR, KPTech's mod will not allow you to control the SR using the key fob. It is designed to work using the SR controls inside the vehicle. I'm sure it is doable but the wiring would be the issue. At the least, you would need to run wire from the driver's side door into the cabin and then into the SR controls. If you have run wires from the cabin to the driver's side door you would know that it is not very simple. I think KPT has designed their mods to be installed in a simple manner. If he developed something to control the SR using the key fob it would be much more involved. At least that is what I think...I have both the Window Up and SR Mod installed. :cool:

We are currently at 10 modules sold.

I made a few posts over on Acurazine.com, another forum that KPtech sponsors to see if I could steer a few buyers over this direction.

We'll get to 21 one way or the other!

OK, the first 6 people who paid should recieve Emails about their shipment by the end of today.

The rest of the paid orders will go out tomorrow morning. After that, if the weather cooperates, all modules will ship when the order is received.

There are quite a few people interested on the Acurazine website, so hopefully we'll hit 20 still.

Just placed my order for both modules, looking forward to the benefits of both. I have wanted both of these features since day one.

OK, the first 6 people who paid should recieve Emails about their shipment by the end of today.

The rest of the paid orders will go out tomorrow morning. After that, if the weather cooperates, all modules will ship when the order is received.

There are quite a few people interested on the Acurazine website, so hopefully we'll hit 20 still.

I got my notice, Kevin. Can't wait :)

Do I just go to the KPT site to order the sunroof module? I already have the window rolldown module - does this work in tandem with that?

I already have the window rolldown module - does this work in tandem with that?

I think you mean the Window Rollup...the Rolldown feature is already in the RL. To answer your other question, the SR mod does not work using the Window Up Mod. Please read the description of the OP. You CANNOT control the SR using the keyfob. As a side note, you may want to consider adding the rear window mod to your existing Window Up mod. Hope this helps. If you want to purchase the SR mod, just send a PM to Kevin at KPTechnologies and he will help you out. :cool:

Just ordered the combo....pushin' for the discount...!:cool:

Hello, I'm interested in the combo module, window roll-up + rear window close, got some questions though, sorry if this has been reptitive;

1. Are we currently at a GB discount rate? What's the current price?
2. How much more is shipping to Hawaii, zip 96818?
3. How hard is it to install this in the driver's side door?
4. How difficult is it to access the door are where the module is to be installed?

Expounding on #3, my RL went to a car alarm shop today for an aftermarket alarm. In order for the aftermarket alarm (Clifford 10.5x) to trigger the windows to roll up, the alarm shop stated that they would need to drill a hole into the driver side door to allow the signal wire to tap the tumbler wire to use the existing relays to roll up the windows via the Clifford aux switch (should a window be rolled down after the alarm arms). The signal wire could not be routed through the existing door connector since the connector is a molex type connector in the door, therefore drilling was required to allow access for the signal wire. I was told the wire to access the tumbler was not available under the dash, only in the driver's side door. :confused:

If anyone has information on how to integrate an aftermarket alarm using the existing window roll-up relays with the factory alarm, i.e. tricking the RL via the aftermarket alarm that the tumbler was rotated and held in the lock position to roll the windows up) and can help locate which wire to tap under the dash, I may not need this module. :rolleyes:

Thanks all in advance!

Hello Punch,
I have a couple of answers to your questions. First, the mod is very easily installed. If you are comfortable taking out the door panel and splicing some wires then I think it is a no-brainer. As for routing wires from the interior cabin to the door, I would suggest reading this thread (http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8374). I know it does not apply to your specific application but I think you can gather some knowledge on how to get the wire through that connector. Why Honda came up with that connector...your guess is as good as mine. I would give your installer the pictures and description and if he/she has skills, this can be done without drilling holes. Many installers like to take short cuts on their installs and drilling holes is one of the short cuts they take. Hope this helps. Good luck. :cool:

We're at ~16 modules right now.

We're waiting on payment confirmations from a couple of people to make it a definate 16.

The KPtech module is designed to integrate with the OEM keyless system. It is not guarenteed to work with aftermarket alarms. The KPtech module needs to 'see' two consecutive 'LOCK' pulses. Most aftermarket alarms will not lock the doors if the doors are already locked.

The wire they are talking about runs from the key cylinder in the door to the power window control switch in the door. It is then converted to a digital signal that is transmitted to the BCM under the dash. They are correct, you can NOT access this wire inside the truck. Usually, when dealing with 'Molex' style connectors you can find an open spot in the connector where no wire passes through and drill the hole through that. Thats how it is done in most other cars.

At this point, I honestly don't know what is going on with shipping. This past week we switched to using only shipping methods with tracking numbers, and so far all I know is that 'normal' shipping is now $7.99. I don't know if shipping to HI, Alaska, or Canada is included in that rate. As soon as I get a definitive answer I'll post back. In the mean time, we always honor whatever price our website calculates, even if it is wrong. Right now, our site calculates $7.99 for shipping everywhere.

As far as using the factory relays they are, I believe, integrated in to the BCM. The only way you can use them is by sending a command to the BCM to raise the windows. This can be done by double pulsing the key cylinder wire inside the door, or manipulating the roll up signal sent to the BCM from the power window controller.

I doubt that the Clifford alarm would be able to raise the windows upon alarm triggering because the BCM needs to see a short pulse followed by a long pulse. If you supply it with one long pulse the windows won't move.

Hello, I'm interested in the combo module, window roll-up + rear window close, got some questions though, sorry if this has been reptitive;

1. Are we currently at a GB discount rate? What's the current price?
2. How much more is shipping to Hawaii, zip 96818?
3. How hard is it to install this in the driver's side door?
4. How difficult is it to access the door are where the module is to be installed?

Expounding on #3, my RL went to a car alarm shop today for an aftermarket alarm. In order for the aftermarket alarm (Clifford 10.5x) to trigger the windows to roll up, the alarm shop stated that they would need to drill a hole into the driver side door to allow the signal wire to tap the tumbler wire to use the existing relays to roll up the windows via the Clifford aux switch (should a window be rolled down after the alarm arms). The signal wire could not be routed through the existing door connector since the connector is a molex type connector in the door, therefore drilling was required to allow access for the signal wire. I was told the wire to access the tumbler was not available under the dash, only in the driver's side door. :confused:

If anyone has information on how to integrate an aftermarket alarm using the existing window roll-up relays with the factory alarm, i.e. tricking the RL via the aftermarket alarm that the tumbler was rotated and held in the lock position to roll the windows up) and can help locate which wire to tap under the dash, I may not need this module. :rolleyes:

Hope this helps,

Kevin

Thanks all in advance!

I bought the window roll up module last year. It does not have the capacity to close the back window. Is there a way to upgrade the existing module I already have? Is there a trade in program to add this feature. Do you have an upgrade kit? I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron.

I bought the window roll up module last year. It does not have the capacity to close the back window. Is there a way to upgrade the existing module I already have? Is there a trade in program to add this feature. Do you have an upgrade kit? I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron.

Chris, I've contacted Kevin regarding this issue and there is a solution for us early adopters. The two option he gave me was:
1. Return the mod and he will made the changes and send it back. You will need to install a relay in addition to the reconfigured mod.
2. Kevin can send you a new mod (small fee associated with this) and then once you install the new mod, send back your old one and Kevin will refund the fee. You still need to install a relay.
Send Kevin a PM and I'm sure he will give you the directions on how to proceed if you decide to do this. :cool:

Just ordered mine... c'mon everybody we need to get to 21, I told my wife how much it was using the 21 price:eek: :D

That should make 17 by my count, just 4 more and it is a really good deal. C'mon people I need that nice refund from PayPal.

I just ordered a window module.

I received mine today.

I'd be ready to install it, but the wire colors on the rear window relay have me confused.

After puzzling over this for an hour, I realized that the wire connector snapped off & there were the pin numbers. <wipes egg off face>


Glad to get the module. I needed BOTH these functions about 4 times today! :)

Here is a photo of how I have the rear window relay wired into the window roll-up module. Nothing is soldered up at the moment & the "oops" is where I stripped off another section for the triple splice (circled) on the red (12VDC) line from the KPT module. Kevin, can you verify this hook-up?

http://www.djeaux.com/images/2007_Ridgeline/harness_labelled.jpg

We're up to 18 modules purchased, a few more to go until we can start issuing refunds!

Thank you all who have participated so far, and if you know anyone who may be interested direct them to this thread.

Here is a photo of how I have the rear window relay wired into the window roll-up module. Nothing is soldered up at the moment & the "oops" is where I stripped off another section for the triple splice (circled) on the red (12VDC) line from the KPT module. Kevin, can you verify this hook-up?


Looks good! When hooking up the relay wires to the window wire double check that your numbers are correct (the 30, 87, and 87A) before trying it out. Wiring these backwards can cause some serious issues, so this would be a good time to doublecheck to make sure everything is wired as you had intended to wire it!

Got mine yesterday! Thanks a lot! Can't wait to put it in!!

Just made payment through paypal for both modules.

2 more ....2 more:D

Got mine today. Thanks!

Got my window unit in today, one thing I have not seen on any of the instructions or posts is what are the wires to connect to for the rear window. I am not an electrical wizard and just saying To rear window motor and To rear window switch is a little vague. Can someone take a shot of what wires these need to connect to when they install. It would help a lot.

I'll attempt to draw something up tomorrow.

It's pretty simple though, if you know what you're doing! :)

The purple wire from the KPtech module goes to pin 85 on the relay (remove the relay from the base and you will find the numbers on the bottom of the relay).

Then, pin 86 from the relay connects to the KPtech RED wire.
Pin 87 also connects to the KPtech RED wire, but through the supplied 15A fuse.

Next, find the 'rear window close' wire, I believe its white/blue (was posted earlier in this thread). Cut this wire. Tie the 'switch side' of the cut wire to pin 87A of the relay. Tie the 'window side' of the cut wire to Pin 30 of the relay.

Like I said, I'll try to draw a picture tomorrow.

The only 2 I am unsure on is the Red abd Blue coming off the relay, the rest are clear from the pic below and the posts on your forums.

I am confused... Most recently:

Next, find the 'rear window close' wire, I believe its white/blue (was posted earlier in this thread). Cut this wire. Tie the 'switch side' of the cut wire to pin 87A of the relay. Tie the 'window side' of the cut wire to Pin 30 of the relay.

But earlier, this was posted along with a scan from what I presume was the service manual:


The Motor Close wire is Blue/Red.
Motor Open is Blue/White.
Feed to the switch is Blue.

I think I'll go with the Blue/Red to cut first. Definitely something to multimeter before hooking up!

The operative question, though, is where are these wires? In the main connector or in the wiring harness somewhere? Do I have to unwrap 2 miles of grey tape on an exploratory mission to locate the Blue/Red or Blue/White?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Assuming I don't see any further guidance here by around QT this afternoon, I'll probably just wire the module without the rear window feature. Somehow the thought of having to have all the door electricals replaced so the rest of the ROC will know what NOT to hook the relay to ... well, it's not appealing :rolleyes:

Unless something becomes blazingly obvious once I get the door panel off, my plan is to wire everything up EXCEPT pins 87a & 30 (to the cut window close wire) & install the harness without the relay or the fuse, just tucking it in for future reference once someone else has been the guinea pig.

You should use a multimeter on all wires before making connections anyway for verification! Just yesterday I had an issue with a customer where a wire wasn't the right color. It was supposed to be yellow, but it was actually blue! In my years of car installations I have came across this occasionally. Sometimes wires just arn't the right color, do to either a factory mistake runout.

Anyway, the wires come right off the back of the switch. I was in a hurry last night (I was getting ready for bed, and it was way past my bed time) and I thought I remembered the right color. I would definately investigate the one indicated by the service manual first.

I bought the window roll up module last year. It does not have the capacity to close the back window. Is there a way to upgrade the existing module I already have? Is there a trade in program to add this feature. Do you have an upgrade kit? I'm pretty handy with a soldering iron.

Your best be would be to just come see me! I can make the changes and do the install. I'm only about 40 minutes North of Cincy (South East side of Dayton)

http://www.kptechnologies.com/images/RLRearWin.jpg

5 more days, get your orders in!

We are very close to the 21 module goal! I'll have some exact numbers up soon.

Took about 3 hours with plenty of breaks, including a 20 min run to Advance Auto for a proper tool to remove the plastic door clips. Just wanted to do that right.

It was blazingly obvious where the rear window wires were: in a plug under the rear window switch. Doh! The main plug & harness junction hookups were straightforward, just like Kevin's instructions. Digging the wires out of the gray-taped wiring junction took a lot of time. And splicing, soldering & taping the small wires in tight quarters was a PITA.

The relay mounted up nicely to one of the screws that mount the arm rest pad, after I straighted the metal flange on the relay so it would lie parallel to the switch box.

Initially, I wired to the blue/red from the rear window switch & when the side windows closed, the slider opened! Bass-ackwards. So I rewired to the blue/white & presto! rear window closed, too. I was thrilled. Moral of story: Kevin was right, service manual was wrong. (At least on my truck!)

Unfortunately, when I went to disconnect the plugs one last time for the final solder/tape routine, the main harness plug refused to budge. So I had to finish up in fairly tight conditions. All the other plugs popped right out when I pressed the release tab, but the main plug was very tight & is now stuck :o

At this point, my wife is screaming at me because it's 10 PM & every time I test it the horn beeps. So I remounted the door panel (easy-easy) & did one last test -- all windows roll up but the rear slider is dead again.

I'll tear it all down tomorrow night & take a look. I'm hoping it's the fuse. When I plugged in the KPT module itself during final assembly, I smelled a "electric hot" odor for just a moment. Spent another half hour checking every connection & have no clue on it . Relay? Module? Fuse? I'm hoping fuse.) :confused: <-- conFUSEd

Whatever -- the window roll-up feature is working great & I'll either figure out the rear slider or take it completely out of the wiring tomorrow. (If I can get the main harness plug to let go.)

This is a neat mod. The horn beep is indeed annoying (or so my wife tells me) but I don't think there's any way around it. The installation isn't complicated, just time consuming to expose some wires, test them & make the connections. The rear slider feature works as advertised, but I think I bolluxed something doing the final door panel replacement. We'll see.

Folks get a kick out of the roll-down factory feature, so I can't wait to show off the roll-up!

When you get the door panel off again the first thing you should do is activate the window up feature and listen for the relay to 'click'. You may even be able to hear it without taking the door panel off. If the relay is clicking then it is most likely the fuse. If the relay isn't clicking, that electrical burnt smell may indicate that the module has been damaged.

I take it that the rear window still works like normal?

The RL is the only Honda vehicle I've ever worked on where you can't easily remove the switches from the door panel. This can make it very hard to work inside the door. I've found that using a flat head screwdriver to push in on the retainer clip really simplifies the task of unplugging harnesses. Of course you want to be careful when you pull on the harnesses as you don't want to physically pull the wires out of the plug! Keep us updated!

Oh, as far as the horn goes, try opening the hood up. If any 'zone' is not set the horn shouldn't honk. I'm pretty sure the windows will still go up with the hood open. This will allow you to do your testing without worrying about making so much noise.

Just got ther subroof module in yesterday, started to look through the directions and it indicates the vent is connected to the orange wire in the harness, there is no orange wire, there is a purple that is not listed in any of the directions, is it just a color change for that wire?

When you get the door panel off again the first thing you should do is activate the window up feature and listen for the relay to 'click'. You may even be able to hear it without taking the door panel off. If the relay is clicking then it is most likely the fuse. If the relay isn't clicking, that electrical burnt smell may indicate that the module has been damaged.

Thanks for the info, Kevin. I haven't heard a "click" but I was working without my hearing aids (and quite frankly didn't know to listen). Also, I did notice the smell after I plugged in the module, but I had also put the bulb back in the courtesy light, so it's hard to tell. I had just strapped up the module with zip ties, so it's also possible that I messed something up internally on the module.

I'm not losing any sleep if I simply need to take the rear window slider wiring out of the system, since the roll-up feature alone is worth the (rapidly dropping) price of admission & the slider feature was lagniappe anyway :)

It was SO MUCH FUN this morning to use the key fob window down followed by the key fob window up to wipe the dew off the side glass! Thanks again, Kevin, this is a terrific mod, even if I only have the "main" feature working! :) :) :)

Just got ther subroof module in yesterday, started to look through the directions and it indicates the vent is connected to the orange wire in the harness, there is no orange wire, there is a purple that is not listed in any of the directions, is it just a color change for that wire?

I've installed this mod: Purple mod wire connects to the RL's GRN/ORN wire.

Take a look at this link (http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11231)for some help with the install. Hope this helps. :cool:

I take it that the rear window still works like normal?

All factory functions work as always: rear slider, key fob window down, door lock window up, all door switches, etc. The module gives me key fob up, but the slider close feature died when I reassembled the door.

I'm still hoping that it's the fuse, but if not, well, the feature that attracted me to the KPT mod (windows up) works great & I can either disconnect the slider part of the KPT harness or just leave it as is.

Hmmm... Since I have to remove the door panel anyway, maybe I can just not tell my wife I'm installing new speakers while I'm at it...

And oh yeah, I highly recommend that anyone doing this installation (or speakers or anything else requiring door panel removal) invest in one of these tools for removing the clips that stay in the door when the panel is popped off. I got mine at Advance Auto Parts for $6.30, tax included. Since I didn't have one in my toolbox, the excursion to the store added about 30 min to my total installation time on the KPT module...

http://www.partsamerica.com/product_images/aap/apo/t70606.jpg

I've installed this mod: Purple mod wire connects to the RL's GRN/ORN wire.

Take a look at this link (http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11231)for some help with the install. Hope this helps. :cool:

Appreciate the info, I was looking to get some insight into this mod.

OK need a little help I picked up a multimeter today, I have figured out that to check the lines it needs to be on DCV, but do I just touch the red probe to the clip at the end of a wire where it plugas into a module or do I have to touch the black and red at separate points? Appreciate any help here as I have never done this, but I want to know that I am connecting to the proper line.

WooHoo, ordered the set. 1 Sunroof module and 1 Window module. I am loving it.

Those door clip removal tools are worth their weight in gold!!!

If it isn't the fuse, and it is the module, the damage would be covered under warranty.

To proverly use a volt meter you need to set the voltmeter to read DC volts. The black probe needs to be grounded, meaning it needs to be touching a bare metal spot in the door (bolt or bolt hole, etc). Then, the red wire will read the voltage. This will measure all the signals except for ground. To verify the ground you can set your meter to ohms (horseshoe looking symbol) and measure between the suspected wire and the bare metal ground you were using for voltage - the meter should read less then 5 ohms.

Anyone got the rear glass working yet?

Here is the list so far:

1. Djeaux – Window Module
2. Timekiller - Window Module
3. firstdog – Window Module
4. geotech – Window Module
5. Acurazine member (J. L.) – Window Module
6. Auditude – Window Module
7. MoosePond – Window Module
8. JustAsk – Window Module
9. ChiTownRidge – Window Module
10. ExBox – Window Module (UNPAID)
11. Acurazine Member (J. S.) – Window Module
12. jforget1 – Window Module
13. jforget1 – One Touch Module
14. gr8daneh – Window Module
15. gr8daneh – One Touch Module
16. Acuazine Member (A. M.) – Window Module
17. Erock40 – Window Module
18. ROC Qlake – Window Module
19. houdaman – Window Module
20. VERNSULLY – Window Module
21. VERNSULLY - One Touch
22. ROC Motorsport – Window Module
23. ROC Motorsport – One Touch

Yes, this means we've hit our 'target' number! I'll start processing refunds ASAP. If you are interested in now, please send the discounted amount through Paypal:

With 30% off the window module will cost $34.99 + $3.49 shipping
With 30% off the sunroof module will cost $31.49 + $3.49 shipping

There are only a few more days, this will be your last chance to get the window module, with rear window control, for this price! The price will be $59.99 plus shipping after the promotion ends on the 26th!

I believe all refunds have been issued. Please check your Paypal account and verify the amount.

For window modules only the refund was $19.50
For window modules and one touch modules the refund was $28.50

Anyone got the rear glass working yet?

It worked fine until I did the final strap-up before reassembly. So yeah, I got it working!

At first (like an idiot) I just followed the factory wiring diagram (blue/red) without metering. Cut the wire & everything. It was wild: the side windows would roll up & the back glass would slide open! :D

So THEN I metered, switched to blue/white & tested the thing enough horn honks to get a cussin' from Miz Djeaux. :o

Sorry for the bad call on the wiring guys. That'll teach me to trust the manual. I've edited post 14 and adding a warning that the wiring should be checked with a multi-meter.

I would like to thank Kevin of KPTechnologies for offering this group purchase and taking care of the refunds so promptly! It's not often that I have delt with an individule or business that has offered so much help in such a prompt manner. So thanks again Kevin.

Jim

:D Thanks Kevin, refund confirmed....oh and I received the modules at lunch.

Received my refund.... thanks again for the awesome deal!

Got mine as well, thanks for the prompt service. :D

As a side note, raising the hood does not disable the horn beep when the remote lock button is tapped the second time.

Honk! Honk! Happy Motoring!

OK I am going to buy the final things I will need to do the sunroof mod today, but I still have 2 things I need a little help with.


How do I find a 12V source in the dash that is tied to the ignition, I tried to search but it kept filtering out the 12V as too common. Is it part of the bandle that all the other wires tie into?
What is the best way to use the multimeter to test for an open or closed circuit in these cases? Is it just one electrode stuck into the point where the wire goes into the harness, or do I use the + and - to get a reading? I assume it goes on DCV on the meter.Any help is appreciated.
Joe

There should be a bundle of thick wires running up towards the ignition switch. When you open up the loom you should find a black/yellow (black with yellow stripe) wire.

To properly test it, you would set your meter to DC volts, put the black lead on ground (any metal part of the truck), and put your read lead on the wire you want to test.

Thank you,

Kevin

There should be a bundle of thick wires running up towards the ignition switch. When you open up the loom you should find a black/yellow (black with yellow stripe) wire.

To properly test it, you would set your meter to DC volts, put the black lead on ground (any metal part of the truck), and put your read lead on the wire you want to test.

Thank you,

Kevin

Perfect, that is exactly what i needed. Going to hopefully tackle the sunroof part this weekend, then the window part when I have a little more time and temperature.

There is one thing that Kevin left out of the instructions & I think I found the solution. I gave up stickercharging as a general rule many moons ago, but this is a "hidden" mod, it goes in the driver's door & it is definitely cool enough to "advertise!"

Just finished my install...only rough part was getting that friggin' grey cloth/tape/mucus-backed grey crap off the wiring harness without cutting any wires. That crap is what they need to use to keep the foam stuck to the Space Shuttle!! Very cool mod, great instructions, and I can't wait to show off!:)

I just put in my order for both modules!

There is one thing that Kevin left out of the instructions & I think I found the solution. I gave up stickercharging as a general rule many moons ago, but this is a "hidden" mod, it goes in the driver's door & it is definitely cool enough to "advertise!"

Very good idea.

That crap is what they need to use to keep the foam stuck to the Space Shuttle!!

Hey! That's my line!!!!! And I thought I was the only one that compared overly protective devices to space shuttle parts!

ok, payment sent!!!! i sent full payment thru your site, couldnt calculate the discount on your site!! lol

3 more hours to submit payments!

NO payments will be accepted after 11:59 EST time.

Thank you all who have participated!

Just ordered the one touch sunroof control and the window roll-up. Thanks Kevin! BTW I thought that you said that the GB was through the 26th. That would be one more day. I'm glad I checked tonite because I was going to do it tomorrow.

Steve

I just paid for 2 sets sunroof and window up modules for each of my Ridgelines.. I can wait... Does your navigation accept module work for the Ridgeline yet? If so can you add this in my order?? thanks for the group buy..

I don't believe the navi 'OK' bypass will work on the RL navi unit. Does it have a physical push button to press 'ok'?

When I wrote 'through' I meant that the 26th was the end date!

Thank you everyone who has participated in this very successful group buy.

As stated before, these special RL modules will not be on our site, but they will be availible for purchase (49.99 for the module, 9.99 for the relay, 9.99 for shipping (with tracking number). Please contact me directly for ordering instructions.

The one touch sunroof module is availible through our site (www.kptechnologies.com).

Again, thank you all who paticipated!!!

The RL navigation has both a push button to OK or accept and has a touch screen OK button.. Have you tried this before on any other Navigations units? I will be willing to be the ginny pig..

The RL navigation has both a push button to OK or accept and has a touch screen OK button.. Have you tried this before on any other Navigations units? I will be willing to be the ginny pig..

They have been installed with limited success on the TL. I say limited because they tapped a wire (not a solder point) which I believe to be a data bus. When our module sends its output it causes the 'OK' button to be pushed, but our module is not able to read the pulses back in. You only need to read the pulses in to activate the AUX function, so its not a big deal, but, in my mind, it still doesn't work as designed!

So you're saying it works for the navigation unit but the AUX has problems?? I'm not sure what you mean?? I would like to by-pass the accept screen or button.. My Ridge already has a AUX input.. for the backup camera to work?? Do you have a phone number to call?? Thanks, Mark

The AUX function is actually an output, used to control anything you want.

This output is programmable with three different options - On/Off, On/Off with memory, and a VSS bypass mode designed for Nissans/Infinitis.

The actual 'OK' bypass part works fine in the TL.

Well I already have a AUX output and I just want to stop having to press navigation accept each time I start my Ridgeline.. I will take two bypass units and can you show me how there connected? Thanks, Mark 520-235-2537

Well I already have a AUX output and I just want to stop having to press navigation accept each time I start my Ridgeline.. I will take two bypass units and can you show me how there connected? Thanks, Mark 520-235-2537

I don't have any information on interfacing the module to the RL navi unit.

The KPtech module outputs a (-) signal X amount of seconds after the ignition is turned on. The output is designed to be connected directly to where the 'OK' button solders to the circuit board. If you could take a picture of the back of the circuit board I may be able to guide you towards the right pin.

The complete instruction guide can be downloaded from our site, www.kptechnologies.com, under the 'support' heading. Also, there is quite a bit of info on this module availible in our support forum, www.kptechnologies.com/forums

Thank you,

Kevin

This sounds great.. I would like to get one.. Do you have any pictures? the forum you directed me to has no pictures... Can we work something out with the lefy over funds from the group buy on the modules instead of my refund on PayPal account?? thanks, Mark

Just placed my order! I am sooo excited about adding this functionality to my truck.

I stumbled across this thread late on Feb 26 (the group buy deadline :eek: ). Man am I glad I did. :cool:

Hey cross your fingers.. this group buy end on the 26th! that means you had to place your purchase before 11:59 on the 25th... Good luck.. See below post from the owner...

02-25-2007, 07:01 PM
KPierson
ROC Silver Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 66


Re: KPtechnologies Group Buy

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3 more hours to submit payments!

NO payments will be accepted after 11:59 EST time.

Thank you all who have participated!

Although this promotion has ended we will continue to grant 20% off of your total purchase at www.kptechnologies.com until 11:59est on Sunday, March 4th.

In the comments section please mention the ROC!!!!

Thank you all,

Kevin

OK, I looked up the word 'through' on www.webster.com and I was wrong. Through means 'to and including'.

We have tradionally always ended group buys on Sundays, because I used to travel a lot and I would leave on Monday. So, all orders would be placed before I left, making it possible to fill them.

Anyways, we had two people inquire about group buy pricing on the 26th, and, because I made a mistake in my wording, we will honor the price.

I also must appologize for getting behind on this buy. We ran out of the One Touch modules and I haven't had a chance to make more. This has delayed all orders that included a One Touch module. As of now, these modules are in stock, and will hopefully go out tomorrow. If they don't go out tomorrow they will be out by Thursday definately. If you are waiting on an order you will get an automated Email confirmation shortly after the product ships.

Also, because I am behind, I still haven't gotten to the refunds. Filling orders is top priority, I'll fix all the 'paperwork' when I get a chance. I'm hoping to do it during the day tomorrow, or tomorrow evening at the latest!

Thank you all! I would also like to get a total module count, I'm guessing it to be close to 30! Thanks again to everyone!

One final thing, we will still be honoring the 20% discount mentioned above. Please place your order on our site and in the comments section mention the ROC and I will adjust your Paypal payment. Hopefully in the near future we'll have automated discounts through our site, but we don't yet! If you are ordering the Honda window up module (HM-20) you should also request an HM-20RL which includes the back window output. In addition to the module you will also need a SPDT relay (part number a-spdt) (found on our site under Relays/Relay Pack --> Relays).

Any questions let me know!

OK, . . . Anyways, we had two people inquire about group buy pricing on the 26th, and, because I made a mistake in my wording, we will honor the price. . .
YES! Now that is customer service! I didn't want to argue that point because I really appreciate vendors offering discounts. But . . .. .my thoughts exactly.

Yeah, I was one of those two people. :D

Thanks Kevin!

According to my records all orders have shipped.

I found out this morning that if you did NOT mention the ROC group buy in the comments you will NOT get a module with the rear window. I was under the impression we were shipping RL modules to people with RL vehicles, but our shipping department doesn't get the vehicle information, they only get the comments information. After I thought about it, it does make sense, as our shipping department has no need to know what kind of car the module will be installed in (until now).

I believe there is only one person so far who didn't do this, and we've already contacted him.

YES! Now that is customer service! I didn't want to argue that point because I really appreciate vendors offering discounts. But . . .. .my thoughts exactly.

Yeah, I was one of those two people. :D

Thanks Kevin!

I still believe KPTechnologies needs to be awarded the Vendor of the Year Award...if there was such a thing. All my dealings with Kevin has been excellent and from reading some of the posts, it appears other members have had the same experience. C'mon mods...can't we give him a T-Shirt or something. :D Great job Kevin and keep the modifications coming.

I still believe KPTechnologies needs to be awarded the Vendor of the Year Award...if there was such a thing. All my dealings with Kevin has been excellent and from reading some of the posts, it appears other members have had the same experience. C'mon mods...can't we give him a T-Shirt or something. :D Great job Kevin and keep the modifications coming.

Well, I certainly don't want this to suggest that our other vendors aren't pretty good. My experience with H&A, for example, was very positive. But Kevin is a real "second mile" guy & that certainly counts for a lot!

Thank you all for your kind words.

As a small company (3 'full' time employees, 1-2 helpers depending on business) we realize that customer service is everything.

The way the first ROC group buy ended really upset us, and we were looking forward to righting that wrong (although I believe we righted all the wrongs of that group buy that was ran by a 3rd party).

I've bought a lot of parts off the internet, and I've had good and bad experiances. But, my most memorable experiances always involve customer service, so that is something we value greatly!

All orders have been shipped and all refund have been applied.

If you haven't got a shipping confirmation Email or a refund shoot me a PM and I'll look in to it.

Thank you!

Kevin

Your best be would be to just come see me! I can make the changes and do the install. I'm only about 40 minutes North of Cincy (South East side of Dayton)


I would like to make an appointment to come and see you. When is a convenient time?

Thanks,

Chris

All orders have been shipped and all refund have been applied.

If you haven't got a shipping confirmation Email or a refund shoot me a PM and I'll look in to it.

Thank you!

Kevin
Thanks for hooking us up Kevin!

Question??

I got the window mod installed no problem, but I gave up on the rear window slide relay, but now my sliding glass won't open. Any ideas? I re-taped the wires but I didn't cut them. I don't have a shop manual but could someone tell me where the fuse is for the sliding glass so I can check that. I like the mod, I just don't like wiring things.

Thanks in advance:cool:

Leaving for the store to buy some connectors to hook up the final wire in the sunroof mod, can someone confirm if the yellow/black wire in the lower right of the connector in the pic is a viable 12V ignition power source. I tried another the first time but that was not it. This shot is from right above the brake pedal.

It is NOT recomended to 'try' wires out and see if they work.

The yellow wire on the KPtech module will be sourcing power, not much power (<10mA), but power none the less.

I have no idea what that wire goes do, nor what it does. It could be a power wire, but I seriously doubt it is. It could be a comm bus that can be damaged if you try to pull power from it.

There are two places people typically connect the yellow wire to for the sunroof module:

1. Main ignition harness - these are thick wires running to the key switch. They are high current wires, capable of providing all the power the module needs with no side effects at all, and no risk of damage. KPtechnologies has fused the yellow wire on the module for cases like this. The main ignition wires are usually in a black wire loom with black tape over it running up under the dash towards the ignition switch.

2. Fuse box - I don't like doing it this way, but some people find it easiest to connect the yellow wire to a switched fuse in the fuse box. Of course, you'll need a meter to find a switched wire.

Any updates?

Question??

I got the window mod installed no problem, but I gave up on the rear window slide relay, but now my sliding glass won't open. Any ideas? I re-taped the wires but I didn't cut them. I don't have a shop manual but could someone tell me where the fuse is for the sliding glass so I can check that. I like the mod, I just don't like wiring things.

Thanks in advance:cool:

Got the power to the sunroof module set tonight, tapped into the fuse for the cigarette lighter, worked like a charm, guess i got the rest of the wiring correct. Is cool to have it open by itself, will be great this summer. Thanks to all for the help. Will be tackling the window mod soon.

Is this group offer still valid? I would like to get the pair for myself.

KPtechnologies is not currently offering any promotions on any products.

Thank you!

But are the Ridgeline products still available? If so, do I still need to add the comment that this is for the Ridgeline, or are there new part numbers now?

The Honda window module (HM-20) and the one touch sunroof module are both still availible through our website, but we don't currently have the RL specific one that adds the rear window control. We can make them still (we manufacture all of our products in house) but before we add them to our site we need to produce the correct installation information. We had too many people confused by the RL specific module compared to the normal Honda module. Hopefully within the next 7 days we'll have a RL version on our site that will include the rear window control.

The Honda window module (HM-20) and the one touch sunroof module are both still availible through our website, but we don't currently have the RL specific one that adds the rear window control. We can make them still (we manufacture all of our products in house) but before we add them to our site we need to produce the correct installation information. We had too many people confused by the RL specific module compared to the normal Honda module. Hopefully within the next 7 days we'll have a RL version on our site that will include the rear window control.
Thanks for addressing this. I had my door repaired (checker damaged from wind) and hoped to have the dealer go ahead and switch out modules, a new for the slider for the old without that I installed. They said they were not certain how to proceed from the instructions and the printouts from the forum. Mostly, I think they were just a liitle ansie because the big boss wasn't there who had promised to comp the switch. :D

kevin- im still waiting to hear back from you about what is going on with my mod...i sent PM and email and hevent heard back from you

I didn't respond yet because we have not yet recieved your module back.

It should have been back by now if you marked it 'refuse' and gave it back to the delivery person.

Any updates?

No updates,
I keep meaning to check the fuse, which is 28 or 29, but haven't yet. I ended up not installing the rear window addition, not a big deal. I just got tired of messing with it:D Wiring is not my forte' The window mod works fine I just can't open my rear window. Any ideas will be helpful... if not I'll mention something to the service writer at the Honda dealership( he's a friend of mine) see if they can look at it.

Thanks:cool:

kevin- im still waiting to hear back from you about what is going on with my mod...i sent PM and email and hevent heard back from you

We got your 'normal' module back and your RL spec'd module will be shipped ASAP.

Thank you,

Kevin Pierson

The Ridgeline module is now available through our website.

The HM-20 ($49.99) module will work to raise the passenger windows

The HR-20 ($59.99) module will work to raise the passenger windows and includes the rear window output and a relay.

There is no way to make the HM-20 close the rear window.

Thank you,

Kevin

Kevin just wanted to let you know I received and installed the window and sunroof modules...

They both work like a charm.

Thanks,
UP N MTNS

Hello,

I'm Jake. I'm new to the site as of TODAY.

I'd like to Buy both modules.

HR-20
and the
Sunroof module.( Whats the status of the sunroof opening with remote.?)

So, when does the group buy begin and how do I purchase?

Thanks
Jake from Nor-Cal

Hello,

I'm Jake. I'm new to the site as of TODAY.

I'd like to Buy both modules.

HR-20
and the
Sunroof module.( Whats the status of the sunroof opening with remote.?)

So, when does the group buy begin and how do I purchase?

Thanks
Jake from Nor-Cal

Jake,

Welcome to the site. We arn't currently running any group buys nor do we have any planned until late summer. Both modules can be purchased from www.KPtechnologies.com.

We don't currently have a module to open/close the sunroof remotely.

Thanks for the fast response.

Does the Sunroof control entergrate/work well with Ridgeline?

No group buy. ? Was there some kind of ROC member discount?

Thanks
Jake

Wow these modules sound good..
I am going to go to site and check them out.

Thanks for the fast response.

Does the Sunroof control entergrate/work well with Ridgeline?

No group buy. ? Was there some kind of ROC member discount?

Thanks
Jake

We've ran several group buys on ROC, but we don't have one going right now. We don't typically run group buys in the spring time, as that is our busiest time of the year. During the late summer/fall/winter when things are slow is when we typically offer promotional deals.

After the group buy ended we did offer a % off to ROC members, but we are no longer honoring that promotion. However, if you purchase two modules at the same time we do include free shipping, which will save you roughly 10% off of the total purchase price (assuming $90 in products and $9.99 for shipping).

Thank you,

Kevin

I have a question about sunroof module. So, it fully opens/closes with single button push. What if you want to open it partially? How do you achieve partial openning/closure?

The 'One Touch' module isn't actually a one touch module.

In order for it to fully open, close, or tilt your sunroof you actually have to push the desired button twice quickly. If you don't push it twice quickly the sunroof will operate as OEM.

Once the automatic function has been enabled if you push either of the other two buttons the operation will immediately stop. So, if you command it to fully open by pressing the open button twice quickly you can then stop it at any point by pressing either the close or tilt button.

This sounds very interesting. Thanks for the quick responce. Now I will only have to wait for that "Group Buy" to come again.

IMO, the sunroof mod is a must have. I live in CA where it has been nice and sunny lately. So using the sunroof is much more easier with this upgrade. It's neat to just push a button a couple of times and wham...the sunroof is open. No need to keep your finger on the button to confirm it is completely open. Thanks for the innovation KPT. :cool:

Kevin, Just thought I'd mention that I was talking with my dealer (the owner of the dealership) & he will probably order a module for his personal RL. He even said it might be worth stocking some in his parts department unless it looks like a major warranty-breaker.

Kevin:

Just put in my order for the sunroof one touch. Thanks for everything :)

John

Kevin:

Just put in my order for the sunroof one touch. Thanks for everything :)

John

Just a heads up John, as mentioned before by KP himself, it is NOT a one touch module. You need to push the button twice (in short time) in order to open or close the sunroof.