F150 get up and go? oh please!

Had a slow F150 truck up ahead so I passed him. Got to a light where 2 lanes turn into 1 lane for a good 4 mile stretch. F150 actually tried to get in front of me. I couldn't believe it! I gunned it (Forgive me engine) and left him in the dust. I went the speed limit and he fell far behind. He held up about 5 cars behind him too. What is it with people testing thier trucks out on my Ridge? Happened twice today! I'll leave 5 minutes earlier tomorrow just so I can let my engine chill for the first 1000 miles.

Truck envy :D

Big truck, small mind :)

I too have noticed that folks, mostly men, want to race me. So here's what I do.

If they are coming from behind me, I watch them as they get up along side me. Some will smile, some will shake their head in disbelief and some will ride along side me, check out the ride and then take off. So, remaining the Lady I am, I allow them to get ahead of me. Those who are so inclined to let off the accelerator and even up with me again become the unknowing victims of Lady Ridgena and J.C.!! :D As soon as they are next to me again, I'm off like a shot and leave them in a cloud of Honda Ridgeline dust!! Yeah!! What a rush. :cool:
Just a litle background on me. I drove 1/4 mile many years ago and semi OTR for many years so you would think driving is no big deal to me, right?? WRONG!! This "chick-up" truck is a whole new way of driving. Don't worry, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt. ( just had a feeling you might be worried a little )

Remember that we are driving the "new kid on the block", a vehicle that promises to change pick-em-up trucks forever. The traditionalists feel a little threatened by this little 'ol truck with the unconventional appearance.

I agree.

The sound of this motor at full song reminds me of an Indy car. Unconventional and out of place for a truck, but who cares. It sure hooks up off of the line.

JC I wish I had a chance to watch you race. What class?

Be careful when passing those F150s, They can catch fire due to a faulty cruise control switch that can even ignite in someone's garage even when the engine is off. Peoples home have burned down because of this. Millions of Ford cars and trucks beyond their original recall have this same switch. Just a heads up if you have any family or friends with these death traps.

Expanded investigation
The $20.57 switch shuts off the cruise control when the driver firmly steps on the brakes. The switch is located under the hood of the vehicle and is attached to the brake master cylinder on one end and wired to the cruise control on the other.

On most of its models, Ford designed the switch to be powered -- or "hot" -- at all times, even when the vehicle is off and the key is removed from the ignition.

Inside the switch, a thin film barrier separates brake fluid from the switch's electrical components. Investigators say fires can occur when the film cracks and brake fluid from the master cylinder seeps into the electrical side of the switch.

Ford has already recalled more than 1 million vehicles in two separate recalls to replace the switch.

The first recall was in May 1999, affecting 279,000 Crown Victorias, Grand Marquises and Town Cars for model years 1992 and 1993. The second, issued in January 2005, affected 792,000 vehicles, including model year 2001 F-Series SuperCrews and 2000 Expeditions, Navigators and F-150 pickups.

But a Ford document obtained by CNN shows the same or similar switch was installed in a total of 16 million vehicles, far beyond what was recalled. Those vehicles include:


Mark VII/VIII from 1994-1998


Taurus/Sable and Taurus SHO 2.3 L 1993-1995


Econoline 1992-2003


F-Series 1993-2003


Windstar 1994-2003


Explorer without IVD 1995-2003


Explorer Sport/Sport Trac 2002-2003


Expedition 1997-2003


Ranger 1995-2003

In March, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration opened an expanded investigation into more than 3.7 million of the vehicles.

NHTSA says it has received 559 complaints of spontaneous fires, 253 of them in unrecalled models, and its latest investigation includes the 1995 model years of the F-150, Expedition and Lincoln Navigator vehicles.

Ford says it has initiated its own investigation and is cooperating with the NHTSA probe.

"We have identified specific populations of vehicles in which the speed-control deactivation switches have had increasing rates of failures and fires," said Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley in a written response to questions submitted by CNN.

"When we have seen the fire reports increasing, we have recalled those vehicles and replaced those switches. Ford has used the basic switch design in a large number of vehicles and the risk of fire related to the switch is much different in those certain populations that we have recalled."

She added, "It is important to understand that all speed control systems are not identical in Ford vehicles. ... In those populations with an increasing fire report rate, we stopped using the switch through the recall process. ... The switch has performed well in many models for many years."

In another statement to CNN, Kinley said "we have been asked why we have not expanded the recall. The last thing we want to do is make an important safety decision on incorrect or incomplete information."

Kinley also said, "We have not determined at this time that there is a defect with the switch, but for reasons we still do not understand the switch is failing ... and we are trying to understand why."

Ford no longer uses switch
But, in a recall notice to owners of 2000 F-150s, Expeditions, Navigators and 2001 F-150 SuperCrews, the company seemed less equivocal about the switch. The "switch may overheat, smoke or burn which could result in an underhood fire," it said. "This condition may occur either when the vehicle is parked or when it is being operated, even if the speed control is not in use."

The company stopped using the switch altogether as of the 2004 year model, and is now using a new design.

Full Article:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/06/16/fo...cles/index.html

wow.........i traded a 2003 f-150 for the rl.

'99 Ranger - with cruise control. Yikes.

I agree.

The sound of this motor at full song reminds me of an Indy car. Unconventional and out of place for a truck, but who cares. It sure hooks up off of the line.

JC I wish I had a chance to watch you race. What class?

1/4 mile straight in either a 1969 Plymouth RoadRunner with a 383 4 speed or a 1970 Chevelle 396 4 speed with cowl induction if my mind serves me correct. Thats was a lifetime ago and I owned so many muscle cars I get them mixed up at this age so forgive me if I misquoted myself!! :D

OTR was a 1976 International cab over w/sleeper.

Same situation happening with me, but here in Truck Country (Texas), I have grown very weary of this "game". For the most part these (99%) guys don't understand power to weight ratios, torque to horsepower ratios, aerodynamics, well they just ain't right! Let's just go right to the nut cuttin' and say it like it is. A small block V-8 doesn't make one bit of difference, if ya got 5,500+lbs of hardware to move. But hey, I grew up on a farm in west texas where a "conventional" truck was a necessity, so what do I know?
I do know, however, that 99% of the "conventional" trucks on the road here wouldn't stand a chance in hell against my ShrekLine. Nothing to prove, everything to gain.

Traded in my 1998 F-150 for mine. The only thing I miss about it was the kick in the ass you get when I floored it to pass. Ridge has a smoother acceleration. As we all know!

1/4 mile straight in either a 1969 Plymouth RoadRunner with a 383 4 speed or a 1970 Chevelle 396 4 speed with cowl induction if my mind serves me correct.

Sounds like some kind of stock or super stock class, or brackets.

OTR was a 1976 International cab over w/sleeper.

Bouncy, huh? Nothing like the ride in the Ridge. :)

LOL Henry, love Pic on here with you in your trunk. I absolutely love freaking people out when I'm at the store and open the trunk to put the groceries in it! Got a grocery store story here coming up. LOL

You want to really embarrass them, blow their doors off in a Civic Hybrid. The Hybrid has a very fast start, it is just between 40 and 60 that it has no pep. I don't know what it is about me that they feel like challenging me at the lights when I am in the Civic but there are very few cars that beat me when I decide to play along. And I hear the Accord Hybrid will even do that 10 times better.

On wet pavement, the RL just motors away while they are busy pedaling. :D

You want to really embarrass them, blow their doors off in a Civic Hybrid. The Hybrid has a very fast start, it is just between 40 and 60 that it has no pep. I don't know what it is about me that they feel like challenging me at the lights when I am in the Civic but there are very few cars that beat me when I decide to play along. And I hear the Accord Hybrid will even do that 10 times better.

255 HP! :D My wife is pretty confident that she takes off faster in her Accord Hybrid than she did in the GTP she traded in.

255 HP! :D My wife is pretty confident that she takes off faster in her Accord Hybrid than she did in the GTP she traded in.

It goes beyond simple HP, it is the fact that the Electric Motor is at full Torque as soon as it is powered. So you get all the power it has to give as soon as you hit the gas. The Accord Hybrid is the fastest Accord ever made according to Honda. I say this with a tinge of jealousy in my voice, because boy would I love to have one, but I am happy with the Civic Hybrid.

Anyone wanna race? ;)


[Please, do not take offensively. I mean no harm.]

According to the test results I've seen, you'll beat us every time. Quit picking on us lesser brethren. :) :D

Anyone wanna race? ;)


[Please, do not take offensively. I mean no harm.]


I'll take that challenge.
Remember, it's not ALWAYS what you have under the hood, but also what you have behind the wheel. :cool:

I'll take that challenge.
Remember, it's not ALWAYS what you have under the hood, but also what you have behind the wheel. :cool:

EEK! I think I will go hide before you all start dragging down the east coast. :D

My cash is on LadyRidge. :)

Lady Ridge, you gonna suggest oval or drag?

It goes beyond simple HP, it is the fact that the Electric Motor is at full Torque as soon as it is powered. So you get all the power it has to give as soon as you hit the gas. The Accord Hybrid is the fastest Accord ever made according to Honda. I say this with a tinge of jealousy in my voice, because boy would I love to have one, but I am happy with the Civic Hybrid.

I know that and you know that, but so many people don't know that its all about the torque that it's fun to just smoke them and explain it afterwards!

Lady Ridge, you gonna suggest oval or drag?

I think I'll let Mr. Taco chose. Makes no difference to me. :D

My cash is on LadyRidge. :)

Thanks sholevlhd. I appreciate your confidence in me!! :p

HI, new here, the 01 F150 i traded in on for my RTS had a hella better accelleration, and had a hella gas consumption(i'm still on my first tank) i really loved the f150 but the gas consumption was a issue and i neeed something that tows at least 5K......and the wife owns a CRV....see where this is going??? :)

HI, new here, the 01 F150 i traded in on for my RTS had a hella better accelleration, and had a hella gas consumption(i'm still on my first tank) i really loved the f150 but the gas consumption was a issue and i neeed something that tows at least 5K......and the wife owns a CRV....see where this is going??? :)
I had an 03 f-150 and the acceleration in that thing sucked. (4.2l v-6)

I had an 03 f-150 and the acceleration in that thing sucked. (4.2l v-6)
Same here...except 97 f-150.

LOL Henry, love Pic on here with you in your trunk. I absolutely love freaking people out when I'm at the store and open the trunk to put the groceries in it! Got a grocery store story here coming up. LOL
Trunk? That's what my RL hauls. I'm only allowed up on the leather seats if I'm good. :D

"F" 150 is correct.
At least Ford got that right.
I just wonder if the F stands for, FIRE!!!!!!!!!

Or we could just stand around and watch the
poor thing just fall apart in the driveway.

I got into trouble for driving too fast.
Just a warning, but the Ridgeline does
haul A-s.

I still haven't Sold my previous truck which is a 03 F supercrew fx4 5.4L v8.

Sadly.:(

It would smoke any Ridge out there. 0-60 in 8 seconds flat. Way More Torque!!

I wish I could say otherwise.

Yeah I traded in my 04 F-150 for my RTX and I miss the power. That thing would smoke the Ridgeline. I don't know what you were trying to race, but the 5.4 V8 smokes it.

Still love the Ridge though. Better gas mileage etc...but i miss some things about my F-150 as well.

Yeah sorry folks, I'm a Ridgeline owner too, but they're dogs. My 98 Jeep Cherokee with only a 4.0 that the Ridgeline replaced would blow it off the line and at 113mph would pass it by. The Ridgeline is an awesome all around truck, but definitely lacks the power.

Motor week or Car and Driver agree (can't remember which) that the Ridgeline is not too quick, but otherwise is a great truck. I am not sure that their comparison was entirly fair though. I really enjoy the performance. My last car was an 03 Civic EX manual 5 speed and if I tried it could really scoot. I thought that I would miss that, but I have found that my Ridgeline really scoots without trying. Maybe my ROC decal is adding some extra horsepower:D

Just saw a comercial for the 07 Tundra 0-60 in 6.11 seconds. The last image had the F150 last. 6.11 seconds is pretty fast for a truck that big. The Tundra must have had at least 2 ROC decal's on it!

Yeah, depends on which model of Ford, but anything over their V6 model would smoke the Ridgeline. But I have another toy when I want to go fast, this truck is meant for other things.

I didn't get the Tundra because I didn't like the gas mileage and didn't need that much truck (pulls 11,000 lbs), but part of me tells me I should have put up with it... haha

That's really what I meant. Depends on the model... I am not the traditional truck buyer buy a mile, but i think the "king cab" aspect of the Ridgeline is incredible. I had less room in the back seat then my EX Civc or my girlfriends Envoy. I just really wish my Ridgeline had something although right now I can't figure out what it is... Oh yeah, that's why I bought it!:)

Yeah sorry folks, I'm a Ridgeline owner too, but they're dogs. My 98 Jeep Cherokee with only a 4.0 that the Ridgeline replaced would blow it off the line and at 113mph would pass it by. The Ridgeline is an awesome all around truck, but definitely lacks the power.


Just because a vehicles makes a lot of noise accelerating or shakes a lot because its construction is inferior to a honda doesn't make it "faster". I love it when people say another vehicle would "smoke" something. It's very easy to look at the numbers. A 1996 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0 L H.O. engine does 0-60 around 10 sec and a quarter mile time around 17.5. In contrast the Ridgeline is around 7 secs and 17 secs. And the f150 surely is not that fast, but I'll look that up when I have more time. LOOK AT NUMBERS PEOPLE. Your butt dyno obviously needs some tweeking!!!

^^^I think the RL is more in the 8-9 second range to 6o. Not bad, but not blazing. Hardly a dog. My Tacoma was in the low sevens and that puppy was quick, but not nearly as comfortable.
I drove 4 RL's before picking mine--felt good and quick off the line whereas a couple felt pretty slow. Probably the tranny flash in the later build date.
Nah, green IS faster.

maybe u guys with the f 150 and or jeep got a dogged RL , mine is pretty fast and for sure fast enough for me, but im not racing but i do get the little speed demon in me while racing my brother to the golf course , he has a 07 tahoe, and i get him just about every time but im a better driver than him to , im more reckless in the curves and he hits the brakes, but that could be another reason, like my RL hugs the corners better than his top heavy tahoe, lmao oh yeah and when he hits the speed bumps at the club all his **** rattles , lol , when i hit them its feels very smoooooooth !!!!!!

madi05

well i am teenager. driving fast is what i do. and driving a ridge makes that easy. the ridge has the spirit of a racer and a body of a truck. and the handling on it, is amazing

well i am teenager. driving fast is what i do. and driving a ridge makes that easy. the ridge has the spirit of a racer and a body of a truck. and the handling on it, is amazing

From a former teenager, just be careful out there.

well i am teenager. driving fast is what i do. and driving a ridge makes that easy. the ridge has the spirit of a racer and a body of a truck. and the handling on it, is amazing

A message to all parents:(

I agree the 5.4 in the new body style is SLOWER by far than the Ridgeline. 5600 lbs kills it. I would've bought the supercrew FX4 if it had some balls. But the 3 value doesn't have the low end grunt of a pushrod and no top end. I couldn't even get the thing to chirp tires. Check there own forums the truck is too heavy. The reg cab may be differnet story. Click Here (http://www.f150online.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255184).

The old style 4.6 Tundra was very quick I can't imagine how fast the new 5.7 is even with the weight.

A message to all parents:(

I agree. But all I can say is I could take a couple hours to list my stupid things behind the wheel.

I thankfully autocrossed and a couple track days in my own car helped keep my butt from hitting anything very hard.

The old style 4.6 Tundra was very quick I can't imagine how fast the new 5.7 is even with the weight.

14.7 in the 1/4 mile I think ? Pretty crazy.

well i am teenager. driving fast is what i do. and driving a ridge makes that easy. the ridge has the spirit of a racer and a body of a truck. and the handling on it, is amazing

Having lived through being a teenager, I'm only going to comment on a couple of things:

1. Be glad that you've got 6 or 8 airbags in that truck, and an uncountable amount of other safety features to keep your butt safe when you mess up.

2. I hope that everyone else you meet on the highway is so well-equipped. I really doubt that is the case, so I hope you never have to deal with survivor's guilt.

3. OK, so who gives a teenager a $30K+ truck? Can your parents adopt me as your new older brother?

Have fun & be careful.
Perry

HaHaHa @ Perry's #3 comment!!! Maybe the teenager only "borrow's" mommy and daddy's truck on the weekends...

Remember that we are driving the "new kid on the block", a vehicle that promises to change pick-em-up trucks forever. The traditionalists feel a little threatened by this little 'ol truck with the unconventional appearance.

Hmmm. Maybe THIS is why my buds who still drive Fords and Dodges insist that Honda doesn't build pickup trucks. They keep calling my RTS an "SUV".

Maybe THIS is why my buds who still drive Fords and Dodges insist that Honda doesn't build pickup trucks. They keep calling my RTS an "SUV".

go to your local quarry with your buds.... drop the rocks it each.... you should get a good laugh !!!

http://ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=228921&postcount=55

Or put your RL up on ramps like these..... have the buds do the same... Open and close doors... again you should get a good laugh !!!

http://ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=228927&postcount=58

:)

f150 are slow ive raced a lot of em. 4.0 v6 5.4 v8 triton and ive raced them in the ridgeline and have been able to pass by them

not to but in but, all the new f150s are slow. hell with a blower they only run mid 14's. Just be careful cuz thats about all u can beat unless u run into a v6 silverado or v6 tundra. Theres some guy in town with a riced out Rigeline with and intake and a fart can and he was talkin all kinds of crap about how his vtec was gonna whoop my pushrod motor. I laughed and proceeded to put 5 trucks on him. He was modded to hahahaha.

5 trucks on him, in what?

My previous car, a 2000 Buick LeSabre with a 205 hp 3.8L V6, would have decimated our Ridgeline in a straight drag race, as would my wife's 2004 Chevy Trailblazer with a 4.2L straight 6 under the hood.

BUT...I have to say, I find my driving has become much more relaxed since we bought our Ridgeline. In the Buick, I almost always seemed to be in a hurry to get where I was going; my driving in the Ridgeline has more of a "I'll get there when I get there" quality. Of course, that's not to say the old "lead foot" habits don't return occasionally, and the Ridgeline has more than enough power to suit our needs. Besides, we live in Southern California where freeways are often nothing more than glorified parking lots and traffic laws are just a suggestion to most drivers, so a fast car or truck is almost a waste of money and engineering. :rolleyes:

...a 2000 Buick LeSabre with a 205 hp 3.8L V6, would have decimated our Ridgeline in a straight drag race, as would my wife's 2004 Chevy Trailblazer with a 4.2L straight 6 under the hood.

Well, I don't about about decimated... Most tests put the Ridgeline a tad over 9 seconds 0-60. Your LeSabre would do a bit over 8 seconds 0-60. I've long been a fan of the 3800, but it shines in low-end torque and runs out of steam over 5,000 RPM while the Ridgeline's engine is still pulling strong. Keep going and the PCM will cut fuel on the LeSabre at 108 MPH. The nanny in the Ridge doesn't pull the plug until 113 MPH.

I LOVED my '99 Regal with the 3800. Pretty easy to ruin a set of front tires in short order with the traction control turned off. I traded it for an '06 Accord EX-L and occasionally missed those extra two cylinders. With the Ridge, I'm happy again. :D

It is amazing, I have other trucks challenge me on a daily basis. Most of the time, I ignore them and keep on driving.
But every once in while, I surprise the hell out of them and walk off and leave them in a cloud of dust. It is especially sweet when you are doing about 45-50 and the mid-range kicks in and the air intake roars with power and it will go straight to 100mph if you let it, in short order....:D :D

I got drag racing out of my blood many years ago..............but its fun when the
"Old Whited Man" blows their doors off every once in a while!

5 trucks on him, in what?

02 Silverado 5.3 Extended Cab
-Intake
-Exhaust
-Chip

Roughly 6.5 seconds 0 - 60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA8XyoiT6Xo

...a 2000 Buick LeSabre with a 205 hp 3.8L V6, would have decimated our Ridgeline in a straight drag race, as would my wife's 2004 Chevy Trailblazer with a 4.2L straight 6 under the hood.
Well, I don't about about decimated... Most tests put the Ridgeline a tad over 9 seconds 0-60. Your LeSabre would do a bit over 8 seconds 0-60. I've long been a fan of the 3800, but it shines in low-end torque and runs out of steam over 5,000 RPM while the Ridgeline's engine is still pulling strong. Keep going and the PCM will cut fuel on the LeSabre at 108 MPH. The nanny in the Ridge doesn't pull the plug until 113 MPH.
I unofficially clocked my LeSabre as being a bit over 7 seconds from 0-60 (a friend rode with me and ran the stopwatch). And since I did say "in a straight drag race" which is traditionally a quarter-mile, top-end speed wouldn't come into play. But I understand what you're saying, so, point taken. If the Ridgeline didn't have the aerodynamics of a brick, it'd probably do much better. ;)

I had, before I traded in, a 2003 Toyota Tundra with its pretty quick 4.7L V8. It could get up and go, and pass most vehicles. The older Tundra, in some ways, was a sleeper truck at least in the regular and extended cab versions.

But, my Dad's 5.4L Triton V8 is a beast of an engine. He thankfully hasn't had any of the atypical Ford recalls (yet) and it has been reliable for him and my Mom. His truck can get up and go, and go quickly.

My old Tundra would hit 60 from zero in about 7.5 to 8 seconds. My Dad's unmodified V8 (mine was unmodified as well) would go 0-60 in about 7 seconds, unofficially.

Ford can make good, reliable, vehicles when they try but I personally wouldn't own one. If I needed to get a full size truck it would likely be the new Tundra. But, I'd wait until they release the street version or the modified Tundra "X-Runner" concept.

I have yet to race anyone in the Ridge. To me , it's not worth the gas to prove I'm faster or slower than another vehicle. This way, I just think I'm faster:D

If you purchased a RL to drag race others you purchased the wrong vehicle.

everyone has their own use for their ridge, it doesnt really matter if we race it around or not. its cause we like to get up and go. i dont really care i race my friends all the time, the ridge is fast enough. im not boasting it can beat all other trucks. but for considering how heavy it feels it can scoot around..shes quick thats what id like to say about that. and ya the f150 is a beasty engine and outputs lost of hp and tq. but the ridge just keeps up or leaves it...:p

If you purchased a RL to drag race others you purchased the wrong vehicle.

Couldn't have said it better myself:D

actually I see drag racing as only 1 part. Currently mine out brakes and out handles a stock nsx, but with 5 seats and a truck bed :)

Still about 1.2 seconds off the stock auto times and 2.7 off the manuals best time but I'm getting there.

although I did recently put the smack down on a new 5.7L Tundra that had been annoying me for the last few months.

02 Silverado 5.3 Extended Cab
-Intake
-Exhaust
-Chip

Roughly 6.5 seconds 0 - 60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA8XyoiT6Xo


I see 8.5 (11 sec - 1sec + 7.5sec (approx 0-60))

This is pretty close to what MotorWeek found for RL times. I would like to think that those mods would have made more a difference. Anyhow, why are we comparing apples to oranges anyway?

I see 8.5 (11 sec - 1sec + 7.5sec (approx 0-60))

This is pretty close to what MotorWeek found for RL times. I would like to think that those mods would have made more a difference. Anyhow, why are we comparing apples to oranges anyway?You know how much faster the Ridge is compared to a 4-cylinder Tacoma? craziness! :D

Currently mine out brakes and out handles a stock nsx, but with 5 seats and a truck bed :) .

You're talking about one of these...???

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://home.socal.rr.com/andyh/NSX_rear.jpg&imgrefurl=http://home.socal.rr.com/andyh/NSX.html&h=307&w=410&sz=74&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=MBBrbUm-AVsQmM:&tbnh=108&tbnw=144&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnsx%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%2 6rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7DKUS%26sa%3DX

If you purchased a RL to drag race others you purchased the wrong vehicle.

I didn't buy the Ridgeline to drag race, far from that in fact, but have decent enough performance to get up and move in and around traffic and to be able to handle emergency handling.

You're talking about one of these...???

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://home.socal.rr.com/andyh/NSX_rear.jpg&imgrefurl=http://home.socal.rr.com/andyh/NSX.html&h=307&w=410&sz=74&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=MBBrbUm-AVsQmM:&tbnh=108&tbnw=144&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnsx%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%2 6rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7DKUS%26sa%3DX

To be fair, he did say a stock NSX.

To be fair, he did say a stock NSX.

Yeah... I noticed that too. Still... I think I'll call BS on that one. You'd have to seriously stroke a Ridge before it could even carry an NSX's jock strap... in the bed, of course ;)

To be fair, he did say a stock NSX.

Not to Flame Alex but I call BS.

I drove an NSX and I can say that a stock Ridge doesn't come close and even a Ridge putting 300hp, larger brakes, bigger tires, suspension still will not take a stock NSX. The weight ratio, hp to weight ratio, center of gravity. BULLSH*T!

Not to Flame Alex but I call BS.

I drove an NSX and I can say that a stock Ridge doesn't come close and even a Ridge putting 300hp, larger brakes, bigger tires, suspension still will not take a stock NSX. The weight ratio, hp to weight ratio, center of gravity. BULLSH*T!

A stock NSX has a cornering G of .89 -.94G mine varies between .94 and .97G

braking 60-0 is currently 110 ft as compared to 111-134 ft for the nsx.

And power on my truck is currently higher than 300 and will go to 350 ish in the next month and perhaps to 400-420 before the end of the year, weight will end up about 4200 fully loaded

A stock NSX has a cornering G of .89 -.94G mine varies between .94 and .97G

braking 60-0 is currently 110 ft as compared to 111-134 ft for the nsx.

And power on my truck is currently higher than 300 and will go to 350 ish in the next month and perhaps to 400-420 before the end of the year, weight will end up about 4200 fully loaded

To get an acurate test both vehicles should be tested at the same time. How was the G tested by you?

HP is one thing but the weight and center of gravity of a Ridge makes this impossible for me to believe.

To get an acurate test both vehicles should be tested at the same time. How was the G tested by you?

HP is one thing but the weight and center of gravity of a Ridge makes this impossible for me to believe.

I had access to a v-box for a few weeks. The variations in specs on the nsx are due to the vastly different model years.

One thing you have to remeber is the RL chasis is vastly supperior also my RL is 3inches lower than stock and corner weighted and my contact patch is 255 f and 255 r vs 215f and 235 on a rwd car.

I was actually able to generate much higher numbers and drastically lower the weight but both detracted from the usability

Alexander... did you really run into Danica Patrick? I don't mean "run into"... I mean meet... pull up alongside... you know what I mean.

Alexander... did you really run into Danica Patrick? I don't mean "run into"... I mean meet... pull up alongside... you know what I mean.

No oddly enough I was driving and I pull up next to this lady in her lamborgini and she looks over and says nice truck. I actually thought it was brooke burke until I saw a picture of danica's ride. Her being a Honda driver too I guess it makes more sense :p

No oddly enough I was driving and I pull up next to this lady in her lamborgini and she looks over and says nice truck. I actually thought it was brooke burke until I saw a picture of danica's ride. Her being a Honda driver too I guess it makes more sense :p

Okay. Not that my opinion means anything in the first place but, I retract my BS call. I'm sure Danica has an eye for a capable machine so I accept her statement as corroberation of your claim.

Who is Brook Burke? Never mind. I'll look her up.

PS: just out of curiousity, ball park figure here, how much do you have in your Ridge to pull those performance numbers out of it. And... why? Not judgemental here. Still just curious. Do you autocross? Just love to wrench?Like a challenge? :)

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I've built for myself and at many periods built hondas for other people but I bought my truck to tow my race car then I decided I couldnt afford to build the car I wanted so I sold it payed off all my bills and started tinkering with my RL.

It's a phenominal vehicle to begine with so I try to minimalize the additions to only what I need.

There are so many variables. THE KW shocks, there settings, the tires, the air pressure the tread depth, the alignment, the lower wheel weight, the shorter treadwall height, lower vehicle weight, the tire width vs wheel width air vs nitrogen, alignment, corner weighting.

Since I'm a parts dealer prices are different for me a bit but less than 6K street price at the moment

Alex, besides the obvious, what are your ideas for weight reduction?

wheel weight should be the #1 thing

The stock RT wheels and tires weigh 80 pounds each, mine weigh 65 and it can go as low as 50 pounds for a street only RL

it's not just 120 pounds of static weight loss it's unsprung and reciprocating weight.

then would be suspension and braking weight. only KW has a lighter setup though I believe the sprint springs are lighter. rotors as fas I know are limited to coleman racing which no one has yet but will be used on the Hasport ridgeline and are 10 pounds lighter each but run 590 a set but are awsome design for cooling.

Also the exhaust can be made lighter and obviuos more power and the battery. There is one more thing, but I want to try it first.

Also while you can run the tank light and take out the spare for about about 200 pounds. But the already nose heavy will understeer alot but the rear gets lighter and more tossable.

You could always get nuts and drop another 800 pounds but thats no longer a truck just a heavy track car

For race day, take out the rear set and passenger seat, and the carpeting. Then, pressurise the interior with helium. You'll sound like a 6 year old in the post race interview and they probably won't let you touch the champagne bottle but what the hell :D

PS: for those who might think I am is serious, about the helium anyway, don't go there. It is am asphyxiant. It will kill you, plus you'll be crying for help in a high pitched voice.

Alexander, do you have any pics of your RL posted here? Would love to see it. 3" drop must make her look sweet.

Alexander, do you have any pics of your RL posted here? Would love to see it. 3" drop must make her look sweet.

It does: http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=237334&postcount=2

Oh yeah, very nice.:)

Yeah I traded in my 04 F-150 for my RTX and I miss the power. That thing would smoke the Ridgeline. I don't know what you were trying to race, but the 5.4 V8 smokes it.

Still love the Ridge though. Better gas mileage etc...but i miss some things about my F-150 as well.

I don't know what crack you are smoking??

Car and Driver 2007 Ford F-150 FX4 4x4 Supercrew Test:
"This truck feels heavy. The scale groans to 5761 pounds, heaviest of the bunch, although only 5.3 percent above the lightest, the Nissan. Ford’s 300 horses are weak ones, too, making the F-150 the hindmost in acceleration — 0 to 60 takes 8.8 seconds. On rough roads, the structure flexes noticeably more than the newly engineered Chevy and Toyota."

0-60 8.8sec
standing 1/4 mile = 16.7sec @83mph


Car and Driver Compact Truck Comparison Test:
Ridgeline

0-60mph = 7.9sec
Standing 1/4 mile = 16.3sec @85mph

I'd say this puts this to rest.

btw: Pulling a 5,000 pound trailer they are within 0.1 sec from 0-60mph on a track.

It does: http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showpost.php?p=237334&postcount=2

actually that is with new tires and 2in drop this is with another inch off the tires and 3inch drop

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5937/p7140715kd2.jpg

I see 8.5 (11 sec - 1sec + 7.5sec (approx 0-60))

This is pretty close to what MotorWeek found for RL times. I would like to think that those mods would have made more a difference. Anyhow, why are we comparing apples to oranges anyway?

Wrong, I think u were maybe watching a different vid, i didnt start accelerating until about 3.5-3.75 seconds and hit 60 at 10 seconds. So... (10-3.5 = 6.5) worst case if im not mistaken. a stock, hell even modded rigeline cant touch that. I guess it is apples to oranges because the ridge dosent have a V8. Not trying to flame, i think the ridge is a nice truck for people that dont need the torque that a v8 offers.

Wrong, I think u were maybe watching a different vid, i didnt start accelerating until about 3.5-3.75 seconds and hit 60 at 10 seconds. So... (10-3.5 = 6.5) worst case if im not mistaken. a stock, hell even modded rigeline cant touch that. I guess it is apples to oranges because the ridge dosent have a V8. Not trying to flame, i think the ridge is a nice truck for people that dont need the torque that a v8 offers.

Then again we dont have horse drawn carriage rear suspension :cool:

But your right we dont need the midlife crisses errr torque that a vette offers. :D

Then again we dont have horse drawn carriage rear suspension

But your right we dont need the midlife crisses errr torque that a vette offers.

lol thats all you can come back with? Rear suspension? lol I know for a fact that my solid rear will articulate off road, and will handle extremely heavy loads in the bed with out wearing out my rear tires like the IRS in the ridge would. but who cares. :eek:

lol I think you may be talking about your own particular situation... I mean hell, you drive a ridge, that has to say sum thing.:D

i think your just mad cuz your wife wont let you have a vette...OR you would rather drive an S2000 (yet another under achieving vehicle from honda):rolleyes:

whatever the case may be, the ridge is nice for what it is;)

Don't feed the troll.

lol thats all you can come back with? Rear suspension? lol I know for a fact that my solid rear will articulate off road, and will handle extremely heavy loads in the bed with out wearing out my rear tires like the IRS in the ridge would. but who cares. :eek:

lol I think you may be talking about your own particular situation... I mean hell, you drive a ridge, that has to say sum thing.:D

i think your just mad cuz your wife wont let you have a vette...OR you would rather drive an S2000 (yet another under achieving vehicle from honda):rolleyes:

whatever the case may be, the ridge is nice for what it is;)

nah my girlfriend says It wouldn't look right until I have a bald spot and her iq is less than 12.

but I am glad your sportscar has the rear suspension of a model t and my truck has sports car suspension

I feel for chevy owners when they try to race me I give them the chance to get a good look before losing them just enough so they can still look manlyish in there pink polo shirts. except the last one he was a jerk so I pulled over let him pass then I waited until he was under full braking then drove around him

its funny to see peopele throw a fit when they realize there 2wd 1950's engine can't keep up on a mountain road with an underachiever

too bad chevy found about vtec 20 years too late.

too bad chevy found about vtec 20 years too late.Dodge also has their own VTEC....
See, I'm not spinning tales, it's powered by Dodge (The Dodge Toxic-Avenger)...

I'm sure the sticker is straight as it must be a camera trick that makes it appear crooked or because it was parked on a hill. :rolleyes:

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q178/keith_757/Funny%20photos/P8036182.jpg

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(taken at my hotel at the ROC National Meet)

nah my girlfriend says It wouldn't look right until I have a bald spot and her iq is less than 12.



Viva Viagra.:eek:

Dodge also has their own VTEC....
See, I'm not spinning tales, it's powered by Dodge (The Dodge Toxic-Avenger)...

Nah, it's just dodge owners dont know how to spell "the"

Wrong, I think u were maybe watching a different vid, i didnt start accelerating until about 3.5-3.75 seconds and hit 60 at 10 seconds. So... (10-3.5 = 6.5) worst case if im not mistaken. a stock, hell even modded rigeline cant touch that. I guess it is apples to oranges because the ridge dosent have a V8. Not trying to flame, i think the ridge is a nice truck for people that dont need the torque that a v8 offers.



I didn't watch the vid but are you trying to say a stock F150 goes 0-60 in 6.5 seconds? If so, lay off the crack.
I own a Ford F250 and it is a dog compared to my Ridge. However it can haul 3600lbs in the bed and that's what I need it for. My friends GMC with his after market exhaust sounds great and he thought it would kill the Ridge, wrong all sound no go. It could smoke the tires, something the Ridge can't do but at 160 a tire, why would I want to. (NOT OEM tires)

wow, Its dam near impossible to reply to this thread when You guys are so all over the place. one of you thinks I own a Z06, the other thinks I drive an F 150. which he cant tell the difference between a GM speedometer and a FORD. and the other guy, well who knows. But ne ways, I drive a 2002 Silverado with Intake Exhaust and a Tune. I trap 90+ in the 1/4 running high 14's, low 15's. I, to this day have annialated every Ridgeline I have ever come accross with ease. Which in the end is pointless because after all its a dam truck.:rolleyes:

I never even mentioned the Z06 but if you want to go there, I am always game for that. Yea the Z06 does have a leaf sprung suspension and a old dino style pushrod motor. But Who really cares when your out performing $100,000+ Ferraris, Porsches, Vipers and yes even your beloved S2000. On top of that it costs a fraction of all those cars (except the S2000). Chevy is just sticking to what they know and they have done a great job perfecting the old pushrod design and making cheap leafsprung sports cars accelerate, handle and basically outperform nearly any car on the street. All the while maintaining supercar performance. Now that to me, IS engineering.

Maybe you guys should do a little more research on your old VTEC info. Sorry to burst your bubble but Honda didnt invent variable valve timing. Fiat was the first auto maker to patent such a design in the 1960's. GM patented the a variation of the design in 1975. Hell, Alfa Romero and Nissan had patents before Honda knew what variable valve timing was. Honda didnt even begin producing variable valve timing engines until 1983.:eek:

Oh brother..

Like I said upthread if you bought the RL, or any pick up to turn it into a tuner, and race it you bought the wrong vehicle. With that said if that is what you are into, knock yourselves out, its your money, and truck.

I bought the RL for utility, and durability, knowing it was a Honda, and would handle the mileage I put on better than any of the domestics out there. 88,000 trouble free miles as of today.

wow, Its dam near impossible to reply to this thread when You guys are so all over the place. one of you thinks I own a Z06, the other thinks I drive an F 150. which he cant tell the difference between a GM speedometer and a FORD. and the other guy, well who knows. But ne ways, I drive a 2002 Silverado with Intake Exhaust and a Tune. I trap 90+ in the 1/4 running high 14's, low 15's. I, to this day have annialated every Ridgeline I have ever come accross with ease. Which in the end is pointless because after all its a dam truck.:rolleyes:

I never even mentioned the Z06 but if you want to go there, I am always game for that. Yea the Z06 does have a leaf sprung suspension and a old dino style pushrod motor. But Who really cares when your out performing $100,000+ Ferraris, Porsches, Vipers and yes even your beloved S2000. On top of that it costs a fraction of all those cars (except the S2000). Chevy is just sticking to what they know and they have done a great job perfecting the old pushrod design and making cheap leafsprung sports cars accelerate, handle and basically outperform nearly any car on the street. All the while maintaining supercar performance. Now that to me, IS engineering.

Maybe you guys should do a little more research on your old VTEC info. Sorry to burst your bubble but Honda didnt invent variable valve timing. Fiat was the first auto maker to patent such a design in the 1960's. GM patented the a variation of the design in 1975. Hell, Alfa Romero and Nissan had patents before Honda knew what variable valve timing was. Honda didnt even begin producing variable valve timing engines until 1983.:eek:

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles. "This was the first system of its kind." wikibreaky0selfoopedia

Other manfacturers also have cars but Honda's vtec is the benchmark they score the vette against

Oh low 15's, I run 15.6 with intake exhaust and tune so far, but if I take out one set of drive axles it's got another 14% more power and cuts another second off that time. And then the first turn and or braking point comes.....

And all chevy did was take the lazy way out, a mistake they dont make on there race car

BTW it's one thing to quote steady state cornering but what happens on a real road in the vette when you hit a bump ?

http://www.7extrememotorsports.com/lemans/cars/chevrolet-corvette-c5r-16.jpg

VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is a valvetrain system developed by Honda to improve the volumetric efficiency of a four-stroke internal combustion engine. This system uses two camshaft profiles and electronically selects between the profiles. "This was the first system of its kind." wikibreaky0selfoopedia

Other manfacturers also have cars but Honda's vtec is the benchmark they score the vette against

Oh low 15's, I run 15.6 with intake exhaust and tune so far, but if I take out one set of drive axles it's got another 14% more power and cuts another second off that time. And then the first turn and or braking point comes.....

And all chevy did was take the lazy way out, a mistake they dont make on there race car

BTW it's one thing to quote steady state cornering but what happens on a real road in the vette when you hit a bump ?

http://www.7extrememotorsports.com/lemans/cars/chevrolet-corvette-c5r-16.jpg

wait a minute, let me get this straight. A stock ridgeline runs mid to low 17's in the 1/4. your telling me that you shaved approximately 2 seconds off your quarter mile time with an intake exhaust and a tune?? your full of **** my friend. stop using DA corrected times and get real. Show me some time slips.

haha just like a typical ricer excuse, "if I take out one set of drive axles it's got another 14% more power and cuts another second off that time" Ohh yea? well i can take my bed off and take the cab out and run a high 12. Lets see, you have 247 stock hp. If you weigh 4400 pounds, you will need about 310 hp or around 290 to the wheels to even think of hitting mid 15's and i HIGHLY doubt you got over 60 hp from your mods. Furthermore, 60 hp aint gonna drop your time by 2 seconds sorry bro.


If you wanna go there, at sea level ill run low 14's but you dont see me making those claims. I run a 14.7 up here at 2200 feet above sea level.

Also, For all your VVT needs check this out...

scroll down a bit and youll see that honda DID NOT created your precious VVT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

Actually I like to see your time slip for you Chevy running 14.7. My friend has a GMC blah blah 1500 something and I smoked his dumb chevy loving AZZ. Though he is a Camaro lover, not everyone can have taste.

Was it really necessary to repost the picture, zo6?:rolleyes: I think I hear your Mama calling for her work truck.:p

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wait a minute, let me get this straight. A stock ridgeline runs mid to low 17's in the 1/4. your telling me that you shaved approximately 2 seconds off your quarter mile time with an intake exhaust and a tune?? your full of **** my friend. stop using DA corrected times and get real. Show me some time slips.

haha just like a typical ricer excuse, "if I take out one set of drive axles it's got another 14% more power and cuts another second off that time" Ohh yea? well i can take my bed off and take the cab out and run a high 12. Lets see, you have 247 stock hp. If you weigh 4400 pounds, you will need about 310 hp or around 290 to the wheels to even think of hitting mid 15's and i HIGHLY doubt you got over 60 hp from your mods. Furthermore, 60 hp aint gonna drop your time by 2 seconds sorry bro.


If you wanna go there, at sea level ill run low 14's but you dont see me making those claims. I run a 14.7 up here at 2200 feet above sea level.

Also, For all your VVT needs check this out...

scroll down a bit and youll see that honda DID NOT created your precious VVT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

talk about a ricer the RL runs 16.3 stock not 17's and you want to talk apples ok you have a 2wd something that can easily be done to the RL. 310hp isnt 290 at the wheels on an awd vehicle, but you knew that. I would be sad too if it took 9 liters under the hood to make 12hp. It's laughable that the only real chevy v8 is in an oldsmobile aurora

I know your just sad that 5 minutes after you bought your truck you could'nt resell it for enough to make the down payment on an RL thats your bad. We all know that like a 5th grade school girl you try to hide your crush for a supperior vehicle through hate

Alex thats funny LOL

02 Silverado 5.3 Extended Cab
-Intake
-Exhaust
-Chip

Roughly 6.5 seconds 0 - 60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA8XyoiT6Xo

Wow if on U-tube it must be true. 5 car lengths...LOL If it ain't 4 wheel drive, it ain't a real truck.

Here is a fact many people don't know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corliss_Orville_Burandt

actually I see drag racing as only 1 part. Currently mine out brakes and out handles a stock nsx, but with 5 seats and a truck bed :)


Not sure what you're talking about here. I have both - a 06 RTL and a 97 NSX. The RTL has more sensitive brakes, but it will not stop its 4500 lbs quicker than the 3100 lb NSX. One of the very best qualities of the RL is its handling but it will not do anything handling-wise better than the NSX. Unless you think more understeer is better.

Not sure what you're talking about here. I have both - a 06 RTL and a 97 NSX. The RTL has more sensitive brakes, but it will not stop its 4500 lbs quicker than the 3100 lb NSX. One of the very best qualities of the RL is its handling but it will not do anything handling-wise better than the NSX. Unless you think more understeer is better.

Well, if the NSX's tires were replaced with all seasons and it had sat for 4 or 5 years... No, probably not even then. His truck IS lowered, has coilovers, and new tires but I doubt if he can pull .9G even with all that. Although at one point it was claimed that it could run with a modded Evo. :rolleyes:

What I'd really like to see to back up these claims of the 'king of all handling truck' is a posted lap time from any road course. Not a canyon video, not an autocross, a permanent road course. And rent a transponder so it's verifiable. We can cross check it with others' times on MyLaps.com and then no one could argue with how fast Alex's Ridgeline is.

Even with suspension improvements and better tires - he can't overcome the weight of the RL and its higher center of gravity. Plus it is essentially a FWD vehicle on pavement.

The RL excels as a truck. I bought it because it drives like a car. Everyday I am impressed how well it drives. But I don't believe it can be modded to handle better than a stock NSX.

But I don't believe it can be modded to handle better than a stock NSX.

Don't bet the farm as anything is possible with enough $.

Well, if the NSX's tires were replaced with all seasons and it had sat for 4 or 5 years... No, probably not even then. His truck IS lowered, has coilovers, and new tires but I doubt if he can pull .9G even with all that. Although at one point it was claimed that it could run with a modded Evo. :rolleyes:

What I'd really like to see to back up these claims of the 'king of all handling truck' is a posted lap time from any road course. Not a canyon video, not an autocross, a permanent road course. And rent a transponder so it's verifiable. We can cross check it with others' times on MyLaps.com and then no one could argue with how fast Alex's Ridgeline is.

Now that is a good idea

Don't bet the farm as anything is possible with enough $.


Uh.....ok...... I suppose you could find a way to take 500 lbs out of the RL, lower the vehicle, change the suspension geometry, etc.....

It will still be a FWD nose heavy truck....let's see it.

Uh.....ok...... I suppose you could find a way to take 500 lbs out of the RL, lower the vehicle, change the suspension geometry, etc.....

It will still be a FWD nose heavy truck....let's see it.


Why is it that people who own an NSX feel Honda R&D was over when it was built?

I dont need very much to make it handle better than a stock nsx 17x10 wheels shod with dunlop road race slicks this even lowers the truck approx 2.25 inches as well and a sport alignment and it far exceeds that, I'd venture to guess hoosier's on stock RL wheels and alingment would do nearly the same. Though it was fun driving around with wheels sticking out of the fenders the tires are not exactly streetable.

And apparently no one thought to realize that I'd still have to be as fast in straight line or at least close to post a comparable track time

Not to say I'm not working on that however and if at all possible I'll make next weekends time attack at streets of willow, thats the same track I've been many times and even got my road racing license at the school there.

If not then I'm putting my effort into the one in November at Laguna Seca.

I'm kinda touched by the number of people that are armchair QB'ing my posts though

I'm kinda touched by the number of people that are armchair QB'ing my posts thoughI enjoy reading the posts on what you're up to.

Do you have a listing someplace of all of the changes you've made?

Why is it that people who own an NSX feel Honda R&D was over when it was built?

I dont need very much to make it handle better than a stock nsx 17x10 wheels shod with dunlop road race slicks this even lowers the truck approx 2.25 inches as well and a sport alignment and it far exceeds that, I'd venture to guess hoosier's on stock RL wheels and alingment would do nearly the same. Though it was fun driving around with wheels sticking out of the fenders the tires are not exactly streetable.

And apparently no one thought to realize that I'd still have to be as fast in straight line or at least close to post a comparable track time

Not to say I'm not working on that however and if at all possible I'll make next weekends time attack at streets of willow, thats the same track I've been many times and even got my road racing license at the school there.

If not then I'm putting my effort into the one in November at Laguna Seca.

I'm kinda touched by the number of people that are armchair QB'ing my posts though

Alex,

You make claims like this and of course a lot of us will have doubt. A lowered suspension and tires overcoming a huge weight deficient is hard to believe.

My old Civic could beat a NSX too. I lowered it, tires, exhaust, header, advanced timing. I would do 12sec quarter miles and pull .98 g's. ;)

Alexander - you said your RL currently outbrakes and outhandles a stock NSX. I don't believe it.

And where did I say Honda R&D ended with the NSX? Honda continues to make fantastic vehicles. That's why I own several. The S2000 is a world class roadster. I will add though that Honda doesn't walk on water. They do many stupid things but that's another topic.

Braking performance is easy to measure. 80-0 or 60-0 is good enough. Handling is another thing. Lateral g only measures ultimate traction on a skid pad. Handling is also includes the ability to change direction and that is where the RL's weight doesn't work well.

Damn. This site needs more variations of the emoticon. Especially the one with the with the smiley munching the popcorn as they read the numerous posts of a contentious debate. Very entertaining... and enlightening

Damn. This site needs more variations of the emoticon. Especially the one with the with the smiley munching the popcorn as they read the numerous posts of a contentious debate. Very entertaining... and enlighteningThat is already being worked upon.

Braking distance is dependent on tires not the brakes. (Assuming it is a single event.)

Fade resistance is determined by thermal mass, cooling as well as pad material and surface area. Changing the tires to summer tire compound will have a profound affect on stopping distance on dry pavement.

Wow. From a Ford F-150 Vs. Ridgeline race to "My Ridgeline can beat anyone's ASS" comment competition.

Damn, I'm all out of popcorn or red vines too.

:)

Wow. From a Ford F-150 Vs. Ridgeline race to "My Ridgeline can beat anyone's ASS" comment competition.

Damn, I'm all out of popcorn or red vines too.

:)

Red vines suck! Twizzlers, baby!!! Oooops... am I off topic... again. Damn. What was it? Something about trucks, I think.

Red vines suck! Twizzlers, baby!!! Oooops... am I off topic... again. Damn. What was it? Something about trucks, I think.

I thought it was now about how a modified Ridgeline could be a NSX. Or something like that.

What about a NSX against a modified Ford F-150 Lightning, or Roush F-150?

I thought it was now about how a modified Ridgeline could be a NSX. Or something like that.

What about a NSX against a modified Ford F-150 Lightning, or Roush F-150?

First when I read "red vines" I was like what the F is that?? Thanks for clearing that up.

The NSX is my dream car and it's just not possible to make a Ridgeline handle better. The only thing making the current NSX not perform as well as the new vette in power. With the larger tires added the handling is second to none. The NSX has tons of toe in added to the rear wheels so the avg buyer that could afford it could drive it. This make the car understeer more. If you want proof of the NSX performance look at the SCCA World challenge the Comptech NSX was winning races against the vettes in a close to stock chassis form. Not like the purpose build racecar like the C5R.

Anyway the factory performance trucks like the lightnings and roushs are usually not 4 doors and have scraficed any offroad ability or payload capability to get the truck to handle well. The Ridgeline may not have the power of these monsters but put tire that are equally as sticky and the Ridgeline will still handle better even with the stock suspension.

A friend at work has a Ram SRT-10 (agreed the most badass truck around??) and I've driven it. It is crazy fast and handles very well but with just as sticky and even smaller tires I think my ridge would handle just as well (slight tuning would be needed to handle the extra grip).

I keep talking smack telling him I could take him on the race track if he was not aloud to pass until the corner braking zone or in the corner. I tell him his old reflexes wouldn't help him much either. Also when he gets stuck in the grass off track I can pull him out with my AWD RTL or tell him how to get back on with my NAVI. LOL

One more thing. Honda bring on the torque monster diesel so I can run veggy oil and smell like french fries. :D

One more thing. Honda bring on the torque monster diesel so I can run veggy oil and smell like french fries. :D

Knowing Honda and their "reputation" for efficient and clean running engines, I don't think they'll EVER bring out a V8 gasoline engine for any of their vehicles. I do think, though, they will have diesel engines soon (like 2009 models) and possibly be the first with new diesel hybrid engines, or E85 hybrid engines. If Honda sees that there is an opportunity for them in the full-size truck market I'd anticipate them to have a 1500, 2500 and MAYBE 3500 style/series of truck all with either their staple V6 3.5 to 3.7L as base with various incarnations of the diesel as optional.

I do think, knowing Honda's racing heritage, that there could be "sport" editions of some cars if there was enough desire for one like the Si edition Civics. I'd like to see a turbo-diesel Civic, or other alternative powertrains.

Knowing Honda and their "reputation" for efficient and clean running engines, I don't think they'll EVER bring out a V8 gasoline engine for any of their vehicles. I do think, though, they will have diesel engines soon (like 2009 models) and possibly be the first with new diesel hybrid engines, or E85 hybrid engines. If Honda sees that there is an opportunity for them in the full-size truck market I'd anticipate them to have a 1500, 2500 and MAYBE 3500 style/series of truck all with either their staple V6 3.5 to 3.7L as base with various incarnations of the diesel as optional.

I do think, knowing Honda's racing heritage, that there could be "sport" editions of some cars if there was enough desire for one like the Si edition Civics. I'd like to see a turbo-diesel Civic, or other alternative powertrains.

ummm yeah there
not gonna do a puny v8 there going right for a v10 in the nsx

I love Honda my RL is my 14th not including street bikes and I've built a million for other people but Honda is hardly maxing out current technology.

for instance why use a regular valvetrain at all it's very ineffcient and when for instance this valvetrain has been commercially available for over a decade

http://www.coatesengine.com/images/graphics/product.jpg

http://www.coatesengine.com/technology.html

BTW anyone want to put my claims to the test PM me if your in so cal or sign up for the november time attack at laguna seca

Interesting valvetrain.....Seems like its potential achilles heal is the seals. But the potential advantages are obvious to me.

If it's been commercially available for ten years, why isn't it in a production vehicle?

Interesting valvetrain.....Seems like its potential achilles heal is the seals. But the potential advantages are obvious to me.

If it's been commercially available for ten years, why isn't it in a production vehicle?

I agree with the seals. Not exactly but similar to the Rotor seals on the Mazdas. Also that looks like a lot of rotational mass compared to a cam shaft.

Rotating mass is much easier to deal with than reciprocating mass. So yes the shaft will be heavier than a camshaft but you don't need any valves moving up and down. Seems like it should have less friction because of no spring tension on the rocker arms riding on the cam....etc.

Another potential issue: how to provide the equivalent of VTEC (I can envision ways of doing this)?

the question for me is always why do you need vtec ? a highly efficient low rpm engine with the right gearing and vtec is superfluous. I can see for a small engine small car using current valvetrains but with something like this and light weight parts like crank ect and it would provide suffient power. Then again I always though the 140 hp from the b18B from 1.8L could be doubled into a 280hp 3.6L with current Dirrect Ignition and Dirrect Injection it could be a 360hp engine.

This design is not so much about weight as it is friction plus with cnc billet cams there not that heavy and in total much lighter without valves prings retainers rockers

Knowing Honda and their "reputation" for efficient and clean running engines, I don't think they'll EVER bring out a V8 gasoline engine for any of their vehicles.

If anyone can make a ULEV-2 V8, it's Honda.

I'm no engine designer so I can't really comment on the benefits of a low rpm (high torque I assume) engine vs. a VTEC-style engine.

But I do notice what other carmarkers are doing:

1. High performance engines continue to climb in RPM. The NSX was perhaps the first to redline at 8K. Now many engines do. Formula 1 engines exceed 16,000 RPM.

2. Many engines have VTEC-like systems. Dozens of variations on VTEC.

3. Automatic transmissions are advancing rapidly. A 4 speed is now an embarrassment. Lexus is already shipping an 8 speed automatic.

So I take from this that low rpm is not considered the right package for cars (not just sports cars). Maybe it is emissions. Maybe it is just that high rpm motors are more responsive. Perhaps the advanced automatics could compensate with more efficient and rapid shifting in a lower rpm scenario.

One thing Honda should be embarrassed about - the new CRV has far less horsepower than the V6 RAV, but mileage is no better. The V6 RAV has 260 hp, easily exceeds the CRV's performance, and matches it in fuel economy.

even more fun is when they try to keep up going around a 270 degree on ramp, the cornering capability of other trucks is pretty pathetic ...

even more fun is when they try to keep up going around a 270 degree on ramp, the cornering capability of other trucks is pretty pathetic ...

careful I had a rather boastful avalanche owner all over the road in front of me yesterday, I finally had to turn around for fear he would continue bouncing off the inside of the mountain taking a header into oncoming traffic or simply driving right off the mountain

I had an 03 f-150 and the acceleration in that thing sucked. (4.2l v-6)

But compare it to the 97 4.6 v8, and you'll think it's the best v6 ever.

Forgive me but----------
I do not get this thread.
Someone stated that the ridgeline engine sounded like an indy car..??
Can someone explain this to me?

Forgive me but----------
I do not get this thread.
Someone stated that the ridgeline engine sounded like an indy car..??
Can someone explain this to me?This thread just won't die.... started 3 years ago, took a long nap, resurrected and slept again 9 months ago... it's alive!.. ALIVE!

as to the sound.... no clue as I'm not going back to read the context.