HID for reverse lights.

Hello everyone,

As mentioned before, I am in the process of starting my own business. I wish to equip our truks (and only our truks) with HID, where applicable, LED for everywhere else.

Below is a trial of HID for our reverse lights. I will add more pictures in the gallery after this post. I don't like the stock output, I feel it does not provide enough illumination.

Stock OEM bulbs are 18w. This trial used a 21w ballast. I think I will next try a 15w or 18w ballast. It was very bright:D . I also belive in saving power, and putting less load on the electrical system, one of the reasons I like HID for headlamps.
Driver side lamp is OEM.

Has anyone wired the reverse lights to work on a switch independently, while not in reverse? I had planned to use them as work lights, for unloading and loading of things such as an ATV.

What is the interest level and opinion of this?

Best Regards,

Christopher

These have been interesting threads. Thanks for posting them.

Here is my interest level:
Backup HIDs: 100% - Current output is too low, and I backup a lot. DOT approval would be nice, but not necessary. I would order as soon as they are available.
Headlight HIDS: 75% - DOT approval required for me. Like the idea, but am not too unhappy with the stock.
Truck bed lights: 75% - If the price is right - I am in. No approval needed.
LED taillights: 75% - DOT approval required for me. If price is right I am in. (If the style is stock ish).

(BTW, I am sure there are many like me who mostly lurk on these pages, and rarely speak up. Many of us are interested in stuff, just not as vocal.)

Count me in.

you have to open up a shop and ship to KY. I will want to have hids in my truck. I just hope its not hard to set up.

Put me down for the back-up HIDs...I'll go with LEDs in the trunk bed.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

The reverse HID mod will not be very hard at all. Bulb fitment will be the primary issue.

For the cargo lights, I may have to agree with bongus. For how often the lights are used, it may not be cost effective to convert to HID.
Simply put, it could take 4 ballasts and four bulbs to do this. That can get expensive:( However, I have access to dual ballasts meant to power 2 bulbs at one time. It would only require 2 ballasts to run the 4 lights. This may be an easier option. I will check into it.

LED technology is evolving rapidly, and may be the best way to go for the cargo lights. Has anyone done this and have comparison photos maybe?

Those back-up HID's look great! I would definately be interested!

Those back-up HID's look great! I would definately be interested!

Hi Chuck,

I will be testing them soon. Check back for updates in this section.

Hey, DA TRUK;

Any new status on these backup lights?

i'm in for the back up lights. How did the b-up cam. go?

I am interested in the HID for reverse. Could not tell from the other posts though, are they legal?

Hey, DA TRUK;

Any new status on these backup lights?

I am interested in the HID for reverse. Could not tell from the other posts though, are they legal?

Hello fellow ROC members. I have some updates for everyone.
SO far the process has been a hassle finding the correct components needed, but I will prevail.

The system will be either 21 watt or 24 watt, perhaps both.

The only problem is warm-up time, taking up to 15 seconds to be completely warmed. Too long for me. There are ways around it such as the bulbs and ballasts. I believe the ballasts are the key now.
21w ballast. Draw will be 1.7 to 1.9 amps, depending on final ballast decision. 24 watt ballast, 2.1 to 2.4 amps. Our factory fuse is 7.5, so we are safe here. Amp draw needs to be x 2, two lights:)
I mounted the ballasts in the fenderwell between the bedsides, and the outer fenders. There is a lot of room!
I removed the inner bed-sides to install the ballast. I totally forgot about the plastic fenderwells! That will be even easier:)
I hope to have the igniter integrated with the ballast later. I hope to have ballasts small enough to fit on the back of the tail-lamp, making it unnecesaary to mount between the fenders.
Basically it takes about 5 minutes of grinding the bulb, (metal holder), to make it fit. Then all I used was decent all-weather silicone to hold in place. Has worked fine for 6 weeks now.
The ballast input is simply plugged into the existing socket, or T5 ( not sure what type of T version this is). The fit is tight, but I used silicone just for peace of mind:) Nothing is done to the OEM equipment. Can be put back to stock easily.
For a more permanent method, one would tap into the T5 wiring, and that is pretty easy also.

If anyone has sources for bare T sockets, please let me know. I could then have the bulbs mounted in the OEM sockets!
Please see link for what I need. I am not sure if it is Honda OEM, Koito or another that makes them. Someone here must know. http://dafnwebpd.sylvania.com/os_filenet_pages/FnDocIdDisplay.asp?id=003679902

VOLinGA, these are not legal.
Here are some pics.

One more Picture

Ready and waiting. :cool:

Can you get the Honda part number for the connectors and order them?

wow those are some bright reverse lights!!!!:eek:

..........didnt even consider the fact hids need a little time to light up all the way.
not a totally bad thing considering it gives you a reason to take that extra glance behind you.
after a few seconds even when they arent warmed up, they are still probably brighter than stock! lol

for some reason the legality issue doesnt concern me at all with these, unlike the headlights.

Can you get the Honda part number for the connectors and order them?

The Ridges tail-lights are part of a 3 piece harness, with the 3 connectors for each light. Even at cost, I am not spending 22 dollars on a harness, for just the one socket.
Sylvania may come through. They usually sell the bare connectors by boxes of 1500, but he said it shouldn't be a problem to get a 100 or so. The cost bare should not be over 1 dollar:)

wow those are some bright reverse lights!!!!:eek:

..........didnt even consider the fact hids need a little time to light up all the way.
not a totally bad thing considering it gives you a reason to take that extra glance behind you.
after a few seconds even when they arent warmed up, they are still probably brighter than stock! lol

for some reason the legality issue doesnt concern me at all with these, unlike the headlights.

Almost all HID or metal halide bulbs need to warm-up. It varies for each system and there are many variables. I would like it to be 5 seconds, not the 12 to 15 it is now. Way too long. I have solutions though.

I agree about the DOT thing.

Just in case anyone is wondering, the 21 HID is equal to output of a 55w halogen bulb. Only with far less amperage draw and less heat.

Thanks for the update! Can't wait for this mod!

I'm interested also. I was looking at adding additional lightning under the bumper somewhere - but this looks like better option.

Need more light for sure.

I'm interested also. I was looking at adding additional lightning under the bumper somewhere - but this looks like better option.

Need more light for sure.


In case this doesn't work out...

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17612&highlight=hi-lites

I hope it does though, they look great.

I'm in!! Let me know where I can get them!!

Thanks for the update! Can't wait for this mod!

I'm interested also. I was looking at adding additional lightning under the bumper somewhere - but this looks like better option.

Need more light for sure.

In case this doesn't work out...

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17612&highlight=hi-lites

I hope it does though, they look great.

I'm in!! Let me know where I can get them!!

Ready and waiting. :cool:

Hey everyone,

I would first like to say thanks for the compliments and support.

If development seems slow, it's becasue of the other HID projects I am undertaking. The Ridge is a side project, since I own it and love it. Besides, I am having fun;)

UPDATES:

The connector issue has been resolved, finally!

Have to decide if time and money are worth mounting bulbs in the bare connector though. It would be slick.
If another bulb is close to what we need, with minimal mods, it might work out better. The second pic is another version that could be used also, depends which would be easier for mounting a bulb into.

In regards to what shovelhd stated, we need to remember these are still the stock housings. They are limited. It is good to keep as OEM, but aditional lights will add additional benefits. Aimability, better reflector housing, better beam pattern ETC.
Of course, the additional back-up lights can be HID as well:D

If anyone has any questions or ideas, just let me know. You can pm me anytime.

Thanks for the update. Sounds like you're getting closer to a finished product. I'll follow this thread closely. :cool:

I'm ready.

Progress looks great! Thanks! :)

Hello Guys,

Figured I would get an update out before 5 est, so everyone killin' minutes at work can see:)

The OEM T5 connectors have arrived. They are dead on, and really nice when examined up close. Other versions are also on the way.

The other versions may be easier to mount bulbs in, we'll see.

Bulbs have arrived as well. There are the double end type, and the bi-pin, or single end type.
Bi-pin looks like it will be very easy to mount in the connector.

For the double end type, (from left to right) there is 35w, 21w, and 10w.
You can see the size difference in the burners. Bi-pin is 35w.

The bulbs will have about 6" leads, then have the AMP connectors (black things) on the end. They will plug into the ouput from the ballast.

No matter what the FFL will remain as OEM. You can see the OEM bulb has a curved filament, our burners will be centered to that.

This is the harder way, as I am still searchin for a bulb that will fit with minimal work. It just won't be as slick as an OEM connector equipped version.
I also want to have some light bleed out of the housing backwards, it creates a nice effect, almost like LED ring lighting around the outside edge of the tailight lens.

The new ballasts should be here today. This may be ready for Christmas...

Did I leave anything out? Can't remember now...

For any questions, just ask. You may also PM. Ideas welcome also;)

For my testers, you will be testing before Christmas.

Best Regards,

Christopher

These pics are the 35w bi-pin vs. a 100w halogen bi-pin. This is for one of my customers whose product uses the 100w halogen as his brightest light source.

Straight killing 'em!

Great news! Sure beats the lump of coal I got last year...

Nice! I'm hoping your next post contains ordering info! :)

Hello Everyone,

I have some quick updates, since I need to get ready for Thanksgiving.

The good news is that the system may now be installed entirely at the taillight, with no need to go in the fender.

The new ballasts will fit on the taillight itself:)

Final details will be which connector to use for mounting the bulb. The OS SYL's were incorrect.
They are bigger than our OEM's. It's a shame, because the Osrams are a higher quality plastic.....

Updates and Pictures to come next week.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING everyone!

Another interested party.

I like that it looks like the bulb is even smaller than stock so it won't interfere with the strobe tube I have mounted in the side of the housing.

Do you have a ballpark price on a pair of these with everything included?

Hello Everyone, hope all of you had a nice Thanksgiving.

So far the systems are coming along nicely, but slowly. It takes time to order items, and then test them.

I have included some pictures.

SSquire, the bulbs will definitely be smaller the the outer envelope used for OEM. They could be longer, but I think the single end bulb is better for mounting versus the double end(long skinny tube) version.

ChrisM, When I originally started, I wanted to keep the price range within 100 to 150. Depending on the bulbs I use, the cost is now approaching 200. I plan to lower this back to within 100 to 150. The thing is that lower wattage of this type of HID is more expensive than 35w. If we could use 35 watt, cost would be under 100!

The ballasts are able to fit many ways on the tail-lamp. I had them half boxed instead of fully boxed. Don't worry, they are still epoxied, and water and vibration proof.

The bulbs are ideas for now, but do work. The bigger one is a ATV bulb Dremel'd to hell, and the outside of our OEM connector would be used for attaching.
This manufacturer's bulbs are built too well to modify easily.
The other one is already ceramic based and would be easy to to install into our connector.

Does anyone have electrical technical knowledge of the Ridge? I thought the back-up was 7.5, but when I pulled the fuse, they still worked...
I need to know what fuses control the reverse lights.

I tried a 35 watt, and damn, instant bright light, no need to wait for warming.

Here are some pictures.

As always, just ask me about details.

thx for the update, BTW: I really need these! I almost backed into a coworkers audi S4 the other night!!!!! :eek:

let there be light!!!! :D

backing up + darkness + icy, tinted back windows + no rear defroster + weak reverse lights + idiots who arrive to work late and cant park correctly= :eek:

These are really looking great... Let us know if we can do anything to help.

thx for the update, BTW: I really need these! I almost backed into a coworkers audi S4 the other night!!!!! :eek:

let there be light!!!! :D

backing up + darkness + icy, tinted back windows + no rear defroster + weak reverse lights + idiots who arrive to work late and cant park correctly= :eek:

These are really looking great... Let us know if we can do anything to help.

Hey spun07rtx,
Yep, could have been an expensive fender bender ( Audi ), plus I think we do not have 5 mph bumpers. Does anyone know?

Thank you also Aloha for the encouragement.

Updates:

Over the weekend I decided to purposely overload the fuse, by using 2 35w ballasts.
As expected, Fuse # 21 , 7.5 amps, oddly named IG Meter popped. I must thank Webwader for knowing what to expect:)

Now, this fuse, is like a bottle neck controlling many other higher amperage circuits.

What I would like to know, is if there is a way to access the reverse light relay?
Also, what would happen if the 7.5 were bumped up to 10 on fuse # 21?

Could I have the TSB related to reverse lights? Build date is 10/05.

What I will do now is test the 21 watt system, but also switch every other circuit on that #21 controls. If nothing blows I will know we are ok.

I also had the idea to have an inline fuse for the ballast input, say 3 amp per ballast. Would this make the reverse lights the weak link, before blowing #21?

I have to test this stuff, because I will not leave another owner with a hobbled Truk.
I just want everything to be safe, under all conditions.

Chris

Happy New Year Chris (Da Truk)!

Hope you have a healthy happy one...

We are all excited about this product, and pleased that you are being cautious... Looking forward to updates as the weeks move on...

Another interested customer.....I am not happy with the poor visibility out the back in reverse at night. We definitely need a better reverse light solution.

I found an interesting link:

http://www.ledlight.com/LZAuto.aspx

Do you think they might have anything that could help. Seems like they have some experience.

Well, Chris has sent me some "prototype" backup HIDs to test for him. Here are my experiences so far. (They have been installed for a week.)

First, if these are prototypes, I think of very few changes for a "full" product. The units are very well packages and built. The bulbs were well protected, and the ballasts are very well built and a perfect size for the Ridgeline. Chris has set up a nice way to insert the electronics so that it is secure, yet completely reversible if I want to go back to the originals (which I would never want to do). The bulbs were a direct fit into the stock light reflector, but were not "tabbed" to snap into place, instead are silicone glued in place. The units were much nicer than the prior prototypes he has posted on this forum.

Total installation took about an hour - with some distractions from my daughter - including a few trips to the basement for tools and such. Basic things were needed, no big deal.

Now for my impressions of this upgrade...

This is a must do for all Ridgeline owners. The difference in backup visibility is very impressive (and, as you will see below, hard to photograph.) The lights are very bright, but with the stock reflectors are not blinding when viewed from behind. The truck is now much more visible to other cars when it is backing up. It also significantly improves visibility when I am backing down my driveway. From the end of my 130ft driveway, the lights clearly illuminate back to the garage, and spread a beam wide enough to see the sides the whole way back. Photo below shows the projected beam pattern which is almost ideal (you would think the Honda engineers knew what they were doing.) Great visibility from the side and back.

It is cold here (yes that is road salt on my pretty truck), and the HIDs warm up very quickly. My estimate is that they start at 50% (which is still much brighter than stock) and within a second are at full brightness (it is in the mid 20s F here). The photos seem like the view of the lights is too harsh, but that is the camera, it does not look that way in person.

Overall, a really useful and practical change to the Ridge, who's stock BU lights are much too dim (in my opinion.)

I will post more later as my testing continues...

Thanks CHRIS (Da Truk)! :D

Nice! I was just wondering about the progress of this project earlier as I backed up my dark driveway. Any idea when these will be available? Need any more beta testers Chris? :)

Nice! I was just wondering about the progress of this project earlier as I backed up my dark driveway. Any idea when these will be available? Need any more beta testers Chris? :)

Agreed. I don't care for HID headlights too much, but for backing up these would be ideal as they aren't always on. I'm not too big of the blue hue, though, as in rain or fog your visibility (because of the blue light) could be diminished. This is a result of the human eye's responsiveness to the color blue. That is also why I hate HID headlights as they can give me a headache and can do the same for others.

Agreed. I don't care for HID headlights too much, but for backing up these would be ideal as they aren't always on. I'm not too big of the blue hue, though, as in rain or fog your visibility (because of the blue light) could be diminished. This is a result of the human eye's responsiveness to the color blue. That is also why I hate HID headlights as they can give me a headache and can do the same for others.
OEM HID lights are not blue. They are white (4300K). They look blue next to yellowish halogens. Some people go crazy with aftermarket HID conversion lights, using 6000K, 8000K, 10000K and even 12000K, if not higher. These look anywhere from blue to purple.

Well, Chris has sent me some "prototype" backup HIDs to test for him. Here are my experiences so far. (They have been installed for a week.)

First, if these are prototypes, I think of very few changes for a "full" product. The units are very well packages and built. The bulbs were well protected, and the ballasts are very well built and a perfect size for the Ridgeline. Chris has set up a nice way to insert the electronics so that it is secure, yet completely reversible if I want to go back to the originals (which I would never want to do). The bulbs were a direct fit into the stock light reflector, but were not "tabbed" to snap into place, instead are silicone glued in place. The units were much nicer than the prior prototypes he has posted on this forum.

Total installation took about an hour - with some distractions from my daughter - including a few trips to the basement for tools and such. Basic things were needed, no big deal.

Now for my impressions of this upgrade...

This is a must do for all Ridgeline owners. The difference in backup visibility is very impressive (and, as you will see below, hard to photograph.) The lights are very bright, but with the stock reflectors are not blinding when viewed from behind. The truck is now much more visible to other cars when it is backing up. It also significantly improves visibility when I am backing down my driveway. From the end of my 130ft driveway, the lights clearly illuminate back to the garage, and spread a beam wide enough to see the sides the whole way back. Photo below shows the projected beam pattern which is almost ideal (you would think the Honda engineers knew what they were doing.) Great visibility from the side and back.

It is cold here (yes that is road salt on my pretty truck), and the HIDs warm up very quickly. My estimate is that they start at 50% (which is still much brighter than stock) and within a second are at full brightness (it is in the mid 20s F here). The photos seem like the view of the lights is too harsh, but that is the camera, it does not look that way in person.

Overall, a really useful and practical change to the Ridge, who's stock BU lights are much too dim (in my opinion.)

I will post more later as my testing continues...

Thanks CHRIS (Da Truk)! :D

Well, it has been a couple of weeks now, and I can tell you that in the pouring rain, in the pitch black, these things are very helpful. A really great modification.

I know Chris is laid up right now (learned why ATV's come with warnings) but will be getting back to us when he is up and running again...

Now that daylight savings has started, this is less of a big deal, but come winter I will be loving this again. Really want to do my wife's car too.

Chris - hope you get well soon.

Get well soon ;)

Great idea! Count me in too.

Sign me up whats the progress??

Nice! I was just wondering about the progress of this project earlier as I backed up my dark driveway. Any idea when these will be available? Need any more beta testers Chris? :)

Agreed. I don't care for HID headlights too much, but for backing up these would be ideal as they aren't always on. I'm not too big of the blue hue, though, as in rain or fog your visibility (because of the blue light) could be diminished. This is a result of the human eye's responsiveness to the color blue. That is also why I hate HID headlights as they can give me a headache and can do the same for others.

Get well soon ;)

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

In case some might not be aware, I flipped my quad on 3-1-08. I came away with a broken Pelvis and Ribs on my right side. I now enjoy sleeping in a motorized chair and walking with a walker.
What really disappoints me is that I might not be able to make the Sedona meet.:(

Now for the good stuff.

The system is all sorted out.
The ballasts are 25w, as well as the bulbs. I do not mis-match different wattage bulbs with different wattage ballasts. Generally a no/no.
Steady state current of 2.2 amps.
Testing on the factory 7.5 amp has been fine.
I have made custom bulbs, but it is very hard, using such a small bulb holder. It is easier to modify bulbs, plus will keep the cost down.

Many thanks to Aloha for his testing and feedback. Without his ideas, I might have stayed with the 21 or even 18 watt system. I realize for work lights, additional back up lights should be used. We might as well have the brightest we can get away with. ;)

The warm-up time is a non-issue.

These are great for anyone who wishes to have more usable light, yet keep the stock appearance of the TRUK.

Currently I have another system on my TRUK, so Aloha has the only pics.

X-Brawn: OEM headlights are 4100k to 5000k. Many times you see the refraction of the light. As Raplon said, behind the wheel it is whitish/yellow.
The reverse lights will be 4300k, unless someone needs something custom.

I have some pictures of my dad's Rex. He had already installed a relay to run 9005 halogen headlight bulbs.
I told him to try the HID 35w. His housings are much better for light spread.

The output is amazing.

35wHID vs. 55w halogen

The picture with the Ridge and the Rex; the ridge has 21w HID, which might look almost as bright, but in reality does not compare to Aloha's Ridge or the Rex.

The last pic is our 25w HID bulb versus our OEM 18w.

With luck, this will be able to be applied to other Honda vehicles.

Hello Everyone,

Thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

In case some might not be aware, I flipped my quad on 3-1-08. I came away with a broken Pelvis and Ribs on my right side. I now enjoy sleeping in a motorized chair and walking with a walker.
What really disappoints me is that I might not be able to make the Sedona meet.:(


Sorry to hear about your accident Chris! I hope you have a speedy recovery!

Sorry to hear about your accident Chris! I hope you have a speedy recovery!

Thanks Chuck,

You have a PM from me.

So it has been quite a while that I have been testing these, and I must say that they have really come in handy on a few occasions. I highly recommend this mod.

I always back into my garage (and down the 130ft driveway) so the extra visibility is always needed. Had a couple of nights, in pouring rain, that I would have really been in trouble with them.

Also, was backing out of a space the other day, from between two large vehicles, and found a car was coming down the row... I am sure that the extra light made me more visible - and gave him more reaction time. Good thing. (He was going much to fast...)

Hope Chris is recovering from his injuries...

Definitely interested in these lights. I live on a street with very few street lights, and it is a pain backing up in the rain and fog. Also, I want to make sure people see me when I have to back up.

Bill Craig

I used octal socket relays, rather than TTL IC's, to keep it simple and "revisable."

This is only the controller, and not the lights, and you'll be wiring for 120 VAC. How electrically inclined are you?

There are lots of ways to skin this cat. Does your garage door opener have a light that comes on when it opens? If so, that can be used as the "trigger" to turn these other lights on.


I think he was referring to the HID mod. :)

Cool.:cool:

Thank you Aaron, your testing has been a tremendous help.
Chuck, you are the man;)

KE5TCG, since you are good at 120 AC, I may have you test some things for me, if you are able and you don't mind spending the time.

The reverse lights for the Ridge are intended for use everywhere, not just backing into the garage. When out and about, these are killer without a doubt.

I don't know if I missed something in this thread, but is this set-up for sale yet?

Dear Acurasales,

A little more testing is being done.

The set-up should be good to go very soon.


I don't know if I missed something in this thread, but is this set-up for sale yet?

Dear Acurasales,

A little more testing is being done.

The set-up should be good to go very soon.



Thanks, this is really needed IMO.

How about an update! I'm STILL dying to add these to my Ridgeline!

when u have it ready to go please count me via pm or email , thanks

madi05

Whats the word on these? You definately sparked my interest

im deffinatly down for getting these

I am very interested in the HID REVERSE LIGHTS also. What is the status of these lights? When will they be ready for purchase?

Lex Luthor:)

Bump...:cool: :cool:

OK it's been over a year. I know your never gonna come out with any type of production or offer the final product to us. So to everyone reading this thread do yourself a favor and save yourself another years worth of waiting and run a set of Aftermarket Foglights or Driving lights from under your rear bumper and run them to an empty switch din in the cabin. 30 mins later you will have something that looks good is usefull and doesnt require you to be in reverse to utilize it.:eek:
Sorry guys but progress is moving like pondwater:eek:

I'd be interested in the HID reverse lights, especially if they are easy to install. DOT approval would be nice, but not necessary.

Any word on this? I'm in...

LED look great in mine.;)

LED look great in mine.;)

What did you do just throw a set of LED bulbs in the reverse sockets?

Purchased them from superbrightleds.com like other members here have done.;)

Any complications with them? How much brighter would you say they were?

Any complications with them? How much brighter would you say they were?

Very easy, simply remove taillight, twist out bulb/socket, pull out bulb, plug in new bulb and reinstall everything. 5 minutes taking your time.:cool:;) I also change out brake lights, license plate, blue interior lights and blue cargo lights.

I plan on switching out rear turn signal lights, glove box to blue and amber LED near map lights to blue as well.

As far as brightness, it's a little brighter, but a more clean light, if that makes any sense?

Has anyone bought a set of these yet?

Hello everyone,

As mentioned before, I am in the process of starting my own business. I wish to equip our truks (and only our truks) with HID, where applicable, LED for everywhere else.

Below is a trial of HID for our reverse lights. I will add more pictures in the gallery after this post. I don't like the stock output, I feel it does not provide enough illumination.

Stock OEM bulbs are 18w. This trial used a 21w ballast. I think I will next try a 15w or 18w ballast. It was very bright:D . I also belive in saving power, and putting less load on the electrical system, one of the reasons I like HID for headlamps.
Driver side lamp is OEM.

Has anyone wired the reverse lights to work on a switch independently, while not in reverse? I had planned to use them as work lights, for unloading and loading of things such as an ATV.

What is the interest level and opinion of this?

Best Regards,

Christopher

Christopher:

V-LEDS just came out with the 19 LED High Power bulb, it is 100 lm brighter than the 14. Currently that is the brightest 921 LED bulb we can safely make. These bulbs cannot be run for more than 15 minutes or they will lose output and not recover. We also make the LED backup licence plate frame, if you want brighter that is the way to go. These LEDS are not listed on the site yet, but they will be soon. Go to V-LEDS.COM and email sales@V-LEDS.

Thanks,

Lex Luthor:D