How many sumps on this thing???

Desert Ridge
08-03-2005, 04:16 PM
Reading the owner's manual last night, and then crawling around under the ridgeline this morning, I got the impression there are four discrete sumps that have service intervals on the Ridgeline. One, the engine, of course. Two, the transmission. Three, the distribution case (don't know what it's called) downstream of the transmission for moving torque to four corners of the car. Four, the rear differential.

Each of these uses a different (proprietary, if Honda has its way) lubricant. Each of these has a different service interval.

Can someone confirm that I am understanding this correctly????

Thanks.

Dave :confused: :confused:

shingles
08-03-2005, 04:59 PM
I think you have it right:
1) engine oil
2) tranny oil
3) transfercase oil
4) rear diff oil.

I think the only "tricky" one is the transfer case oil, doesn't it call for 90W gear lube? If it does, becareful, honda doesn't (or atleast didn't) have a 90w oil.

Initially a LOT of S2000 owners took their cars in, came out with busted differentials. Reason being that the S2000 called for 90W oil, but dealers were putting in VTM-4 oil in there, which is NOT the same as 90W oil.

shovelhd
08-03-2005, 07:31 PM
I think you have it right:
1) engine oil
2) tranny oil
3) transfercase oil
4) rear diff oil.


From the shop manual:

engine oil: API 5W-20
tranny oil: Always use Honda ATF-Z1. Using a non-Honda ATF can affect shift quality.
transfer assembly oil: SAE 90or 80W-90 hypoid gear oil API GL4 or GL5 only
Rear diff: Honda VTM-4 Differential Fluid P/N 08200-9003

vertrkr
08-03-2005, 07:43 PM
From the shop manual:
engine oil: API 5W-20
tranny oil: Always use Honda ATF-Z1. Using a non-Honda ATF can affect shift quality.
transfer assembly oil: SAE 90or 80W-90 hypoid gear oil API GL4 or GL5 only
Rear diff: Honda VTM-4 Differential Fluid P/N 08200-9003

I know you want to stick with the Honda fluid for the tranny and rear diff but I'll probably throw in Mobil1 75W-90 gear lube for the transfer case when the time comes. Already running Mobil1 in the engine.

shovelhd
08-03-2005, 07:48 PM
vertrkr, I was just reading from the manual. I am already running Mobil1 in my engine, and will continue to use synthetics wherever I can.

vertrkr
08-03-2005, 07:56 PM
vertrkr, I was just reading from the manual. I am already running Mobil1 in my engine, and will continue to use synthetics wherever I can.

Ya, read the same. Mobil does make a convential 80W-90 lube but I think the syn 75W-90 should be just fine but I think I'll ask the Honda engineer I know next chance I get just in case.

shovelhd
08-03-2005, 08:02 PM
Please post what you find out here. Thanks!

jeffiam
08-04-2005, 09:14 AM
I think you have it right:
1) engine oil
2) tranny oil
3) transfercase oil
4) rear diff oil.

I think the only "tricky" one is the transfer case oil, doesn't it call for 90W gear lube? If it does, becareful, honda doesn't (or atleast didn't) have a 90w oil.

Initially a LOT of S2000 owners took their cars in, came out with busted differentials. Reason being that the S2000 called for 90W oil, but dealers were putting in VTM-4 oil in there, which is NOT the same as 90W oil.
why in the world would honda require a lubricant that they didn't provide????

vertrkr
11-30-2005, 12:52 PM
Ya, read the same. Mobil does make a convential 80W-90 lube but I think the syn 75W-90 should be just fine but I think I'll ask the Honda engineer I know next chance I get just in case.


Ok, finally got around to asking this question. He said Mobil 75W-90 would be just fine for the transfer case. He did say it's a bit more viscous so there be a very small hit in gas milage but you'd probably not notice. He said it's an excellent product and would be a fine choice.

5S Dude
11-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Great news guys! Thanks for the follow up.

shingles
11-30-2005, 01:24 PM
why in the world would honda require a lubricant that they didn't provide????

Good question. :)
The S2000 guys had a hard time finding 90W for the rear diff.