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: How about the sand


Robalero
12-23-2007, 04:34 PM
Greetings, this is my first post in with the ROC and this Monday I will have had my Ridgeline for one week. I purchased an RT in Nimbus Grey and I am so thrilled with it. Having purchased and driven nothing but Ford Pickups for the last thirty years I decided to purchase the Ridgeline.

I live in South Texas and will use it to drive to work and back of course, but I will also be using the Ridgeline to go hunting and fishing. I am not to worried about the hunting aspect, but I do go to the southernmost point in the country to do some serious fishing, the mouth of the Rio Grande River. While the drive down the beach is not bad, as one gets closer to the mouth, the sand becomes more treacherous and I was wondering, how will the Ridgeline handle it. Has anyone driven in extremely loose sand, does the 4X4 kick on automatically in the sand, do I have to watch my speed? I know, lots of questions, I will read the owners manual again, and with that said, I cannot wait to get the Ridgeline on the beach.

I am so happy that I found this forum. Just reading the previous posts has been a tremendous eye opener.

Robalero

csimo
12-23-2007, 04:40 PM
There are others who have posted their detailed experience with sand. It can be very tough to deal with.

I suggest you search out the other threads before you hit the beach (and end up walking).

Robalero
12-23-2007, 05:04 PM
Joe,
Can you provide me with a link, I just did a partial search, and every single post seemed to be pretty positive. Honestly, I can't wait to get it out on the beach.

Robalero

Robalero
12-23-2007, 05:21 PM
Wow, lots of info in the archives. I gather from what I have read that I must disengage the VSA and that the maneuvering seems to improve or be superior with it off. Anything else I need to know.

Robalero

csimo
12-23-2007, 05:26 PM
Yes, you're on the right track. Lower tire pressure and pull the VSA fuse will give you the best results.

Beware that it's easy to overheat your transmission in the sand. There is a warning light, but once its illuminated the fluid is history and must be changed. Sand is brutal on transmissions... be kind to your transmission.

boxsky
12-24-2007, 07:29 PM
What did you do with your other trucks?

I find the Ridge handles much like others if not better in the same circumstances. Snow, Rain , Sand and Mud.
Not that it won't get stuck but if I had to lower pressure for the sand in the Ford then I will in the Ridge.

Robalero
12-24-2007, 08:04 PM
Box,
This is my first 4X4, and the last four pickups that I owned were small Rangers. I would run the sand at a fast speed, the Rangers were light enough that they would not sink. I never had to deflate the tires and once I would get close enough to where I was headed (when I fish at Boca Chica Beach I fish on the surf just fifty or sixty yards from the mouth) sometimes I would have to run a hundred or so yards in the really bad stuff, sometimes it would be two to three hundred yards or so, it all depended. My Ranger never got bogged down in the sand, though I was always prepared with shovel, etc. It was kinda funny because in all the years that I fished the area, I must have seen border patrol agents get stuck in the sand at least twenty or thirty times, and they drove 4X4's first suburbans, and then explorers. Honestly, I can't wait to get out there. I never ventured out there when there was a storm in the gulf because the tide was high, though I did go out there with a buddy who drove a jeep, and man, when there is a low pressure system in the gulf, it's like the fish are gorging themselves, grand slam time, trout, redfish, and snook.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Robalero

csimo
12-24-2007, 08:18 PM
What did you do with your other trucks?

I find the Ridge handles much like others if not better in the same circumstances. Snow, Rain , Sand and Mud.
Not that it won't get stuck but if I had to lower pressure for the sand in the Ford then I will in the Ridge.

Unfortunately the VSA system will work against you in some circumstances... like sand.

I had an issue just over a week ago in deep snow. I unfortunately tried to make it up a hill and forgot to turn VSA off. Big problem. I was lucky, very lucky, to be able to get out of the situation without wrecking.

VSA is great for normal driving, but in some situations it can be a nightmare.

If you lower the tire pressure for sand traction the VSA will not turn off. The result is that you can't move the truck, or if you do it will bog down and sometimes even kill the engine. The only way around the problem is to pull the fuse.

The VSA software is not able to adapt to certain extreme conditions. Pull the fuse to dumb it down for sand.

FLA-Vyk
12-25-2007, 03:27 AM
I have driven my Ridgeline on the beach in Daytona Beach, it was tricky at the on/off ramp, but no problems. It was nice with the windows open and enjoying the cool breeze off the ocean. Just wish that I could have been able to drive the full lenght from Ormond Beach to Ponce Inlet, like we could back in the 60's, that would have tested it.

Robalero
12-25-2007, 07:39 AM
So Csimo, are you telling me that anytime the situation calls for a 4X4, I should always turn off/disengage the VSA?

And once again, thank you so much for all of the replies and all of the feedback.

Robaler

MikeT
12-25-2007, 06:15 PM
So Csimo, are you telling me that anytime the situation calls for a 4X4, I should always turn off/disengage the VSA?

And once again, thank you so much for all of the replies and all of the feedback.

Robaler

Beat you to it Joe (csimo) :D

No, the 4x4 function is automatic (Should be called AWD = All Wheel Drive). Locking the rear differential so that both rear tires turn at the sam speed and the amoutn of torque (Up to 70%) will be diverted to the rear wheels. If you need to air down the tires and / or be able to spin the tires, disable the VSA.

Robalero
12-26-2007, 03:27 PM
Okay, like I posted in the other thread, you guys and the information here has been totally and incredibly helpful.

I have one more question regarding pulling the VSA fuse. I noticed in my owners manual that there is a vsa fuse in the interior(#31), and two in the secondary under hood fuse box, (#2 & #3) one 20 amps and the other 40 amps. When getting ready to run the sand, the fuse to be removed should be the one in the secondary underhood fuse, is that correct?

I tried a search and could not get specific info on this and once again, thank you so much for your help and support.

Robalero

ps: I feel like such a fool sometimes when asking my questions; your kindness here has really helped me, and hopefullyit will help others who will be to embarassed to ask.

MikeT
12-26-2007, 03:45 PM
Okay, like I posted in the other thread, you guys and the information here has been totally and incredibly helpful.

I have one more question regarding pulling the VSA fuse. I noticed in my owners manual that there is a vsa fuse in the interior(#31), and two in the secondary under hood fuse box, (#2 & #3) one 20 amps and the other 40 amps. When getting ready to run the sand, the fuse to be removed should be the one in the secondary underhood fuse, is that correct?

I tried a search and could not get specific info on this and once again, thank you so much for your help and support.

Robalero

ps: I feel like such a fool sometimes when asking my questions; your kindness here has really helped me, and hopefullyit will help others who will be to embarassed to ask.

Don't sweat the questions; at least you tried searching first.

Here is a thread where member Lowrider (Who does a lot of driving in sand) recommends pulling the 20 amp fuse from the fuse block under the hood:
http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2871

Robalero
12-26-2007, 04:25 PM
Mike T, thanks a million, the information on that thread is exactly what I was looking for. Went out and checked under the hood, it looks easy to get at and I pulled it out, only a slight pull and after a click it came right out.

I can't wait to get out in the sand, I've already ordered an emergency tow strap, a heavy duty portable air compressor (the kind that attaches to the battery cuz it'll fry the lighter adapter), and some Staun air deflators. All this info, right here on this website.;)

Once again, thanks a million.

Robalero

MikeT
12-26-2007, 04:30 PM
Mike T, thanks a million, the information on that thread is exactly what I was looking for. Went out and checked under the hood, it looks easy to get at and I pulled it out, only a slight pull and after a click it came right out.

I can't wait to get out in the sand, I've already ordered an emergency tow strap, a heavy duty portable air compressor (the kind that attaches to the battery cuz it'll fry the lighter adapter), and some Staun air deflators. All this info, right here on this website.;)

Once again, thanks a million.

Robalero


Unless your heading on to the sand, I would put the VSA fuse back in. You never know when you will need it. As you found, the fuse is not terribly difficult or time consuming to take out / put in.

Robalero
12-26-2007, 04:53 PM
LOL,
Yeh, I put it in right back. I would hope that I know better. No, its coming out right before I hit the beach, but that won't be for a couple of weeks.

Once again, thanks for all of the info.

Robalero

MikeT
12-26-2007, 04:54 PM
LOL,
Yeh, I put it in right back. I would hope that I know better. No, its coming out right before I hit the beach, but that won't be for a couple of weeks.

Once again, thanks for all of the info.

Robalero

Great, have fun and be safe! Enjoy the New Year :)

weatherman
12-26-2007, 05:52 PM
anyone posted pictures of which underhood fuse box the VSA fuses are in? if my memory serves me correct, there are two of them under there. thanks.

MikeT
12-26-2007, 06:10 PM
anyone posted pictures of which underhood fuse box the VSA fuses are in? if my memory serves me correct, there are two of them under there. thanks.

I looked but could not find any pics of the underhood VSA fuses.

Olive
01-27-2008, 11:23 AM
Has anyone built a "cut out" switch for the vsa underhood fuse? I live a mile from the beach and frequently just take a quick cruise. It sure would be easier to flip a switch than to have to pull the fuse on top of airing down the tires.

I know its easy to pull....but I'm lazy....and willing to tinker a bit ;)

avenger
01-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Has anyone built a "cut out" switch for the vsa underhood fuse? I live a mile from the beach and frequently just take a quick cruise. It sure would be easier to flip a switch than to have to pull the fuse on top of airing down the tires.

I know its easy to pull....but I'm lazy....and willing to tinker a bit ;)

I was thinking the same thing. I'll have to start studying the service manual schematics.

Boreal
01-28-2008, 08:50 AM
Hi,

I posted a procedure about a year and a half ago describing how to install a kill switch for the VSA when tires are underinflated. If I can find the post, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, you can search for yourselves.

Dana


Has anyone built a "cut out" switch for the vsa underhood fuse? I live a mile from the beach and frequently just take a quick cruise. It sure would be easier to flip a switch than to have to pull the fuse on top of airing down the tires.

I know its easy to pull....but I'm lazy....and willing to tinker a bit ;)

Boreal
01-28-2008, 08:53 AM
Found it!! http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=127783#post127783


Hi,

I posted a procedure about a year and a half ago describing how to install a kill switch for the VSA when tires are underinflated. If I can find the post, I'll let you know. Meanwhile, you can search for yourselves.

Dana

BlkRidge07
03-14-2008, 07:30 AM
My buddy owns like 4 acres of beach property in wisconsin, my Ridge handled everythig. I had to pull his Trailblazer out three times. My Ridge is alot better than my 03 Jeep Liberty that I bought about a month after. Overall I loved tearin up sand but it was a killer trying to clean the interior I think I still have sand inside.

BruceRTL
03-14-2008, 07:43 AM
My buddy owns like 4 acres of beach property in wisconsin, my Ridge handled everythig. I had to pull his Trailblazer out three times. My Ridge is alot better than my 03 Jeep Liberty that I bought about a month after. Overall I loved tearin up sand but it was a killer trying to clean the interior I think I still have sand inside.

That's awesome! It really pulled theTrailblazer out? Was the TB a 4x4? I'm curious because I traded my 2 wheel drive TB to get my RL and we have a LOT of sand out here. Good luck with getting the sand out.

rdharper
03-14-2008, 09:11 AM
I would think sand would not trigger the VSM... but if it did, I'd shut it off with the switch. Not sure why the talk about fuses... I'm assuming the switch was available on 2006, 2007?

1st gear with VTM-4 on will do better than most 4wd's without elockers. I had a Subaru get stuck a long time ago... because the front left, and right rear spun. Sand was just a bit too soft. The Ridge, with its wider tires, and the VTM-4 system... well I'm pretty sure it would have come through that spot easily.

I have a road which goes down to our hydro system. Quite steep, I'd guess 25-30%. It is covered with enough loose rock that my Toyotas, neither of which have lockers, come up just fine as long as you don't stop. If you stop, you have to back down and take another go.

As a test, I took the Ridge up to the worst spot, and stopped. I put the VTM-4 on, shifted to first... and up she went with no loss of dignity.

BlkRidge07
03-17-2008, 10:26 AM
BruceRTL

Yup 4X4 LTZ I had the VTM 4-Lock on and pulled him out I will try to find pics. Chevy Like a Rock more like a pebble LOL:D

MikeT
03-17-2008, 10:43 AM
I would think sand would not trigger the VSM... but if it did, I'd shut it off with the switch. Not sure why the talk about fuses...


To drive on loose sand, one of the first things that should be done is reduce the tire pressur to about 15psi to 18psi (On the Ridgeline). When you do reduce the tire pressure to this level, the TPMS will activate the VSA regardless if the VSA switch is activated (Turned on) or not. To over come this, you need to pull the VSA fuse that is located in the fuse block under the hood.

VuLe110
08-24-2008, 03:05 PM
The only way around the problem is to pull the fuse.

The VSA software is not able to adapt to certain extreme conditions. Pull the fuse to dumb it down for sand.

I just bought my RTL yesterday, I was wondering, can you just press the VSA OFF button for these conditions? Or does pulling the fuse do something else..

Row5ss
08-24-2008, 04:12 PM
you can but then you can't air down.. which puts a ridiculous amount of strain on the truck

MikeT
08-24-2008, 04:22 PM
Pulling the VSA fuse allows you to run with lower tire pressures (Say 15 to 17psi) for driving in sand. The reason for pulling the VSA fuse is when the TPMS (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) detects low tire pressure, VSA is activated automatically regardless of whether you have turned VSA off or not.


The VSA / TPMS interaction is a safety feature relevant to on road driving. In the event of of low tire pressure while driving on the road with VSA deactivated, the TPMS will activate the VSA in an effort to assist the driver with maintaining vehicle control.

For driving with low tire pressure (ie sand), pull the VSA fuse, lower the tire pressure to the desired level and drive with common sense.

zuhl
08-25-2008, 01:50 PM
Just get wider tires, no need to air down. I have 285s and I went through dunes that were swallowing other trucks and never even slowed down. Had 35psi in my tires the whole time.

Robalero
09-01-2008, 10:36 AM
Have hit the beach several times this summer (sorry no video) and have had a great time with my RL. Never even gotten close to being stuck, have not lowered the tire pressure, have not pulled the fuse, when I came across whate seemed like treacherous sand, put it in second and locked in the four wheel, it handled the areas very nicely.

I was wondering if it indicates that the rear wheels are engaged because I have never noticed anything like that.

Rob

Ridered
09-02-2008, 06:48 PM
Do you mean showing when the rear diff is locked or when the AWD is kicking in? I learned that I need to push and hold the rear lock button for about a full secound, for the light on the button to come on. If I tap it the light wont come on, and I think its locked till i hear some tire spin then (woundering WTF) I look at the button and realize what I did.

Row5ss
09-23-2008, 07:57 PM
been pulling the fuse to go on the beach.. super deep soft sand on long island. is the vsa automatically disengaged once the fuse is out? or do i still have to press the vsa button??

Ridered
09-23-2008, 09:24 PM
No power no workee.

codda
09-24-2008, 05:13 AM
been pulling the fuse to go on the beach.. super deep soft sand on long island. is the vsa automatically disengaged once the fuse is out? or do i still have to press the vsa button??

Got any pics of your beach adventures..? Would love to see a couple of your truck in some soft stuff...

FLA-Vyk
09-24-2008, 11:56 AM
I drive on the beach in Daytona Beach, when I finish I go to a car wash and spray wash the underside and wheel wells. It seems to clean out the sand build up.

Row5ss
09-24-2008, 08:37 PM
Got any pics of your beach adventures..? Would love to see a couple of your truck in some soft stuff...


nah no pics... only drive about a half mile to surf... take it nice and slow.... deep tracks and soft ass sand... lots of people getting stuck over labor day. people think they don't have to air down!!!!

got the stauns things are great

rdharper
09-25-2008, 02:20 PM
Have hit the beach several times this summer (sorry no video) and have had a great time with my RL. Never even gotten close to being stuck, have not lowered the tire pressure, have not pulled the fuse, when I came across whate seemed like treacherous sand, put it in second and locked in the four wheel, it handled the areas very nicely.

I was wondering if it indicates that the rear wheels are engaged because I have never noticed anything like that.

Rob

Rob... I believe the locker works only in first gear, and shows the VTM-4 on the dash. In second, you got "normal" AWD.

Robalero
09-27-2008, 09:31 AM
Thanks for the responses. Going out to the beach today again this afternoon/evening. Can't wait, I love my RL!

ps: maybe this time I won't forget the camera

Row5ss
10-19-2008, 10:15 AM
have taken my ridge out on the beach a ton. but have a question for others. i usually air down to 18psi and the truck works great. but i then have to stop at a gas station miles away to air up again. i bought a compressor that holds 5 gallons. i figured i can air up to 30 psi if i take em down to 24 psi on the beach. how will the ridge perform at this psi?? does anybody air down to that number. really really soft sand i drive on. tried not airing down once and did not work. had to air down to get moving on the beach.

VaVet96
10-19-2008, 08:09 PM
have taken my ridge out on the beach a ton. but have a question for others. i usually air down to 18psi and the truck works great. but i then have to stop at a gas station miles away to air up again. i bought a compressor that holds 5 gallons. i figured i can air up to 30 psi if i take em down to 24 psi on the beach. how will the ridge perform at this psi?? does anybody air down to that number. really really soft sand i drive on. tried not airing down once and did not work. had to air down to get moving on the beach.

There's a great write-up on a 4wheeling Adventures site showing how much more rubber you put on the sand as you go down to the lower pressures. It's at http://www.4x4now.com/sfjun96.htm . The bottom line is you go the biggest part of the change in the last few pounds. Personally, I always use 15-16psi. Have had excellent results, but I agree it is a bit of a hassle airing back up. I have to go several miles to get to the closest station. I've always just taken it real easy though, and I've noticed no ill effects on the tires.

DogBoneRTL
10-22-2008, 07:34 AM
There's a great write-up on a 4wheeling Adventures site showing how much more rubber you put on the sand as you go down to the lower pressures. It's at http://www.4x4now.com/sfjun96.htm . The bottom line is you go the biggest part of the change in the last few pounds. Personally, I always use 15-16psi. Have had excellent results, but I agree it is a bit of a hassle airing back up. I have to go several miles to get to the closest station. I've always just taken it real easy though, and I've noticed no ill effects on the tires.


That's a pretty good article. Thanks!

Boreal
11-03-2008, 06:38 AM
At Race Point on Cape Cod, I usually air down to 12 psi. Works very well at 12 psi, but I would be careful not to corner too quickly. It's also great that they have air stations coming off the beach.


have taken my ridge out on the beach a ton. but have a question for others. i usually air down to 18psi and the truck works great. but i then have to stop at a gas station miles away to air up again. i bought a compressor that holds 5 gallons. i figured i can air up to 30 psi if i take em down to 24 psi on the beach. how will the ridge perform at this psi?? does anybody air down to that number. really really soft sand i drive on. tried not airing down once and did not work. had to air down to get moving on the beach.

easternbeacher
05-18-2009, 11:15 AM
This thread is fairly old, but could someone please set me straight? For soft sand, if you pull the 20 amp VSA fuse the VSA will be disabled, and the rear will stay locked? So all you do is pull the fuse and you are good to go?

Thanks

Jet Pack
05-18-2009, 11:22 AM
This thread is fairly old, but could someone please set me straight? For soft sand, if you pull the 20 amp VSA fuse the VSA will be disabled, and the rear will stay locked? So all you do is pull the fuse and you are good to go?

Thanks

No, pull the fuse to disable the VSA when you air down the tires for sand.
When you air down, (without pulling the fuse) the TPMS wont let you turn off the VSA, resulting in power loss when in the soft sand. You should not use VTM-4 for extended periods of time because it will overheat.
Hope this explains it. Have fun.

MikeT
05-18-2009, 01:21 PM
This thread is fairly old, but could someone please set me straight? For soft sand, if you pull the 20 amp VSA fuse the VSA will be disabled, and the rear will stay locked? So all you do is pull the fuse and you are good to go?

Thanks

As the previous poster stated, pull the VSA fuse. The reason is (As stated by the previous poster) with the tires below the "low tire pressure" threshold, the ECU will ignor the VSA switch and activate the VSA full time. This can result in loss of power to the wheels when the VSA detects wheel spin. The only way around the VSA with the tires aired down it to pull the VSA fuse.

Now for the VTM-4 system. When you are driving on sand, leave the VTM-4 Lock off. Do not engage it unless you are stuck or becoming stuck (By the way, the transmission will need to be in D1, D2, or R. If in doubt, D1 or R will work for you). Do not engage VTM-4 Lock on dry pavement either. The reason for this is the VTM-4 unit was not designed for use on pavement and extended use intervals as it will over heat.

So to recap, pull the VSA fuse and leave the VTM-4 Lock off. The truck is designed to engage the rear wheels when needed. Only use VTM-4 Lock to get out of a hole or for very short periods of time only and only on loose ground.

Jet Pack
05-18-2009, 01:54 PM
As the previous poster stated, pull the VSA fuse. The reason is (As stated by the previous poster) with the tires below the "low tire pressure" threshold, the ECU will ignor the VSA switch and activate the VSA full time. This can result in loss of power to the wheels when the VSA detects wheel spin. The only way around the VSA with the tires aired down it to pull the VSA fuse.

Now for the VTM-4 system. When you are driving on sand, leave the VTM-4 Lock off. Do not engage it unless you are stuck or becoming stuck. Do not engage VTM-4 Lock on dry pavement either. The reason for this is the VTM-4 unit was not designed for use on pavement and extended use intervals as it will over heat.

So to recap, pull the VSA fuse and leave the VTM-4 Lock off. The truck is designed to engage the rear wheels when needed. Only use VTM-4 Lock to get out of a hole or for very short periods of time only and only on loose ground.

Thanks Mike for the clarification. I know (for the most part) how the R/L works, I just can't seem to explain it as well as others. :o

MikeT
05-18-2009, 02:04 PM
Thanks Mike for the clarification. I know (for the most part) how the R/L works, I just can't seem to explain it as well as others. :o

You had everything correctly listed. I am just working on my post count :D

lowfro50
05-18-2009, 07:01 PM
Some1 asked a while ago in this post if any1 had any pics in the sand . I figured I would share. This is a pic of fam in the RL on OBX Route 12 last summer. I didn't let any air out of the tires or pull any fuses and had no issues even in the softer stuff.

easternbeacher
05-19-2009, 05:42 AM
As the previous poster stated, pull the VSA fuse. The reason is (As stated by the previous poster) with the tires below the "low tire pressure" threshold, the ECU will ignor the VSA switch and activate the VSA full time. This can result in loss of power to the wheels when the VSA detects wheel spin. The only way around the VSA with the tires aired down it to pull the VSA fuse.

Now for the VTM-4 system. When you are driving on sand, leave the VTM-4 Lock off. Do not engage it unless you are stuck or becoming stuck (By the way, the transmission will need to be in D1, D2, or R. If in doubt, D1 or R will work for you). Do not engage VTM-4 Lock on dry pavement either. The reason for this is the VTM-4 unit was not designed for use on pavement and extended use intervals as it will over heat.

So to recap, pull the VSA fuse and leave the VTM-4 Lock off. The truck is designed to engage the rear wheels when needed. Only use VTM-4 Lock to get out of a hole or for very short periods of time only and only on loose ground.


Thanks!

My original post wasn't very clear. The beaches where I fish have some very soft sand, so I always have to air down to about 18psi, and in the past with the VSA active, I sometimes hear some strange noises and have some loss of power in the real soft stuff especially near entrance/exit locations. I will give it a try asap as the stripers are biting in the surf!

Row5ss
05-19-2009, 03:16 PM
drive in some really deep soft stuff around here.. can make it without airing down but the truck really really stuggles if i'm not in a solid tire path to a point where i sometimes have to rock my truck from reverse to d1.. when i air down and pull the fuse its sweet on the beach floats nicely and it really smooth.. without airing down its runs at about 3000 rpms which isn't all that good.. only drive for 5 min down the beach each way so not too bad

sfflyer8
05-19-2009, 03:28 PM
I read this whole thread and there are no pictures from Robalero. I'm not gonna lie, pretty disappointed. :(

Boreal
05-20-2009, 06:44 PM
Another note about soft sand - I found out from a week on the beach at Race Point that the only time I had to pull the fuse to disable VSA was if I was running 14 psi or higher. When I started dropping the tires to 11psi, there was no noticeable improvement by disabling VSA. The RL simply kicked ass with the tires at 11 psi, but you have to be careful not to drive like an idiot and roll 'em off!

Bam
05-21-2009, 01:16 PM
Just back from florida and I had the chance to play in some small dunes. Was in some pretty soft sand and deep enough to fully cover the tire up to the rim lip. Did not let any air out of my tires. I did turn the VSA off but dont really know how much of a difference it made. Oh yeah the only time I locked it in was going up to the crests of the dunes just to be safer than sorry and the whole time the ridge never had me worried.

Zcuda
05-21-2009, 04:02 PM
WOW cool to hear about you guys playing in the sand.

Thanks Jetpack & Mike T for that great info otherwise I would have locked the VTM-4 & just gone on playing. :-)
Jason

Jet Pack
05-21-2009, 07:37 PM
WOW cool to hear about you guys playing in the sand.

Thanks Jetpack & Mike T for that great info otherwise I would have locked the VTM-4 & just gone on playing. :-)
Jason

No problem Jason, we like to help when we can.

TexRidge2008
05-28-2009, 05:32 AM
This is a nice thread...

I spent the holiday on the beach in Rockport, Tx no problems with the deep stuff. I never had to air down or turn off the VSA though. My tires did a good job, the VSA just did the groan noise when it engaged for a second each time. We drove from Rockport almost all the way to North Padre nice drive.:D.

Robalero
06-15-2009, 02:57 PM
Wow, I can't believe this thread is still alive. Actually, just went to the beach last week and had a great time with my RL, oh yeh and the wife as well. Ran on some super fine powdery sand, have never had to deflate the tires, or pull the fuse. When the RL seemed to sink I could feel the rear tires power up. Funny though, I saw nothing on my dash to tell me it was hitting AWD.

Jet Pack
06-15-2009, 03:02 PM
Funny though, I saw nothing on my dash to tell me it was hitting AWD.

And you never will! ;)
Every time you start off from a dead stop the R/L is in 4WD/AWD. As you reach a constant speed, the AWD disengages. There is no indicator to let you know when this happens.

Robalero
06-15-2009, 03:08 PM
Thanks Jet! Learned something new today. I do have my tire deflater and detailed instructions should I get stuck, but it hasn't happened yet. I absolutely love my R

suspect
06-23-2009, 08:51 AM
I have never had to pull the fuse or had any problems at all. We go out on the beach just about every weekend during the summer and as of yet have not had any problems...

casperinmd
06-23-2009, 03:38 PM
You know...I read the first couple of posts and got worried about the beach. I bought..err am buying after I get back from a business trip next week, my first RTL. I am very very excited, my wife said I have a "glo" about me :) After a few years of the OBX with another family, I said last year that before our 2009 trip, I was getting me a 4 door 4x4. Well I decided on the RTL but even before coming here. I found this site from googling rtl vs rts and have been stuck here since.

Glad to see I won't have problems with the sand, I see many people get stuck when we are walking to the shore and I sort of laugh to myself and want to be sure I am not laughed at!

I do plan to lower the air pressure to 15psi I think and pull the fuse just in case, figure safer than sorry til I get used to it eh? I do have a long tow chain, maybe I will through that in for good measure, is there a good spot in teh front for tow chains without jacking up the bumper incase I need to beg someone in a monster 4x4 to help?

What if I do get stuck with low pressure and the fuse pulled, do you simple play the gun it backwards then forward over and over til I get moving in one direction safely?

Gone2Baja
06-24-2009, 09:56 AM
I just came home from Mexico, I drove from El Glofo to Rocky point I have BFG all trains that I aired down to 14psi I had know problems. I only had to lock it up once otherwise I just floated over the sand. Great truck!

DogBoneRTL
06-24-2009, 11:17 AM
With Dune Grapplers, I own the sand! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/DogBoneR1/Ridgeline/P6070436.jpg

NICKDAWG83
06-29-2009, 05:15 AM
Why would you ever have to pull out the VSA fuse, thats why there is a button to disengage it.

r-squared
06-29-2009, 05:53 AM
Why would you ever have to pull out the VSA fuse, thats why there is a button to disengage it.

Its all here, when you air the tires down, the tire pressure monitors tell the truck not to let you turn VSA off, so that button does you no good.

DogBoneRTL
06-29-2009, 08:42 AM
Its all here, when you air the tires down, the tire pressure monitors tell the truck not to let you turn VSA off, so that button does you no good.

Plus even with the wheels not deflated the system will reengage when it detects excessive wheel spin. Say your going through a big muddy area and your wheels are constantly spinning the system will engage itself.