ssmith335 12-27-2007, 12:14 PM Hi Everyone,
I've been looking for the 'perfect' driving lights for my '07 RL for a while now. Most are round, some rectangle. I have the PIA light kit for my normal headlamps so I want something as bright as those in a driving light. I also want to keep with the look of the RL, namely the square-style of the headlamps. So, I'm looking for any suggestions on what fellow RLers have done.
Many thanks,
~Steve
ericrwalker 12-27-2007, 11:55 PM Is there something wrong with the headlights the Honda Gods have bestowed upon us?
Six Rails 12-28-2007, 04:28 AM LOL good point Ericwalker thats like spending $10,000 on hair plugs and to don't have the money to heat your house. So it is safe to assume you don't want the factory fog/driving lights ? :)
ssmith335 12-28-2007, 07:27 AM Oooh, thanks for the suggestions!
:mad:
BigFoote 12-28-2007, 07:51 AM Unless your going to install them yourself, the dealer installed fog lights look like the best. I haven't seen any do-it-yourselfers that looked better.LOL good point Ericwalker thats like spending $10,000 on hair plugs and to don't have the money to heat your house. So it is safe to assume you don't want the factory fog/driving lights ? :)
geotech 12-28-2007, 08:01 AM I, for one, support your right to do the mods. Hope you find the lights you want. I'm no help for that.
However, I would like to request that you get in another vehicle and meet your RL on a black asphalt road with no edge stripe in total darkness and see if your arrangement is a safety hazard. I can't tell you how many times I have been blinded by low beams/fog lamps when meeting other trucks with modified lighting (especially that it's-so'white-it's-blue beams).
In short, please practice the Golden Rule: Don't do unto others what you wouldn't do unto yourself.
arteegee 12-28-2007, 10:44 AM Oooh, thanks for the suggestions!
:mad:
First you may want to seek knowledge on the difference between driving and fog lights.:rolleyes:
BigFoote 12-28-2007, 06:46 PM Good advice for everyone.I, for one, support your right to do the mods. Hope you find the lights you want. I'm no help for that.
However, I would like to request that you get in another vehicle and meet your RL on a black asphalt road with no edge stripe in total darkness and see if your arrangement is a safety hazard. I can't tell you how many times I have been blinded by low beams/fog lamps when meeting other trucks with modified lighting (especially that it's-so'white-it's-blue beams).
In short, please practice the Golden Rule: Don't do unto others what you wouldn't do unto yourself.
ssmith335 12-29-2007, 01:44 PM First you may want to seek knowledge on the difference between driving and fog lights.:rolleyes:
Thank you! Having crawled from under a rock I have no clue what the differences are. Whew, glad I asked the question. :rolleyes:
arteegee 12-29-2007, 10:36 PM Thank you! Having crawled from under a rock I have no clue what the differences are. Whew, glad I asked the question. :rolleyes:
Good to know your limitations.:p
MikeT 12-29-2007, 11:29 PM Moderator hat on:
Geez folks, the OP was asking for help not bashing. Let's play nice as this thread is starting to resemble another forums nuckle dragging antics.
Moderator hat off:
How's this for a suggestion:
PIAA Driving Lights (Clear)
http://www.suvxccessory.com/piasu-1552.html
I looked at these and thought about putting them behind the opening in the bumper (The level of the transmission cooler).
boxsky 12-29-2007, 11:59 PM I always preferred Piaa lights myself. Had good luck with them.
RedLdr1 12-30-2007, 08:13 AM Steve,
About a year ago I did a lot of research looking for the "perfect" auxiliary lighting for my Mustang GT. After researching the different options I went with a set of Sylvania X1010 HID Auxiliary Lights. The Mustang GT they were bought for was totaled before I had a chance to install them...:mad:
While these lights are not "driving" lights with a mile long pencil beam I think they are more useful for most driving situations. They are DOT approved, street legal, auxiliary low beams and may be wired to be used with either your high or low beams... Sylvania sold their remaining stock of X1010s to Suvlights ( http://www.suvlights.com/ ) a couple years ago. They currently have a set listed on e-bay at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Osram-Sylvania-Xenarc-X1010-HID-Xenon-Fog-Driving-Light_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118QQcate goryZ33709QQihZ008QQitemZ180196457684QQrdZ1QQsspag enameZWD1V
Hopefully I will get a chance this week to look at a way to cleanly install them and get them installed...
Have you changed out the OEM headlight bulbs for either SilverStars or something similar? Changing to SilverStar bulbs improved my vision as it is a "whiter" light. They are DOT legal and not the cheap bluish ricey stuff you see in some places...
BigFoote 12-30-2007, 08:37 AM I would say "Pretend I'm stupid." but there is no use pretending. I think I understand Fog Lights, but what is the difference between Driving Lights and the normal headlights that come on vehicles? When would you legally use more than the normal headlights? Although I want as much light as possible, I don't want to be one of these idiots that drive around blinding people. (I also agree with MikeT, and if I ever come across as bashing anyone, I apologize. This is a great resource, and I would hate to lose it. Happy New Year!
Six Rails 12-30-2007, 09:12 AM If adjusted correctly driving lights are so much safer than just normal headlights you get a much broader light making the sides of the road as bright as the center, as well as lower and not to blind the on coming traffic if people are flashing their lights at you then it's time to have them adjusted. Just changing a tire size means adjustment to head,fog and driving lights.
Driving lights :
Traditional Driving lights are designed to increase the range and brightness of your vehicle high beams, and are especially useful at higher cruising speeds where they help to identify hazards and signs long before they could be seen with high beams only. All Driving lights are extremely bright and must be dimmed with the high beams.
Fog Lights :
Fog / Foul Weather lights enhance your vehicle's low beams for improved vision in rain, fog or snow. The low and wide light beam travels under severe weather and also improves side visibility. Distance of illumination is similar to your vehicle's low beam, preventing stray light from offending oncoming traffic. Fog / Foul Weather lights come in amber or clear to augment your low beams anytime it's legal in your area.
arteegee 12-30-2007, 12:15 PM Very good explanation, Six Rails.
BigFoote 12-30-2007, 02:37 PM Thank you for the explanation. That was very helpful. I have one question regarding fog lights: Why would you choose amber versus white? What are the advantages of one over the other? If adjusted correctly driving lights are so much safer than just normal headlights you get a much broader light making the sides of the road as bright as the center, as well as lower and not to blind the on coming traffic if people are flashing their lights at you then it's time to have them adjusted. Just changing a tire size means adjustment to head,fog and driving lights.
Driving lights :
Traditional Driving lights are designed to increase the range and brightness of your vehicle high beams, and are especially useful at higher cruising speeds where they help to identify hazards and signs long before they could be seen with high beams only. All Driving lights are extremely bright and must be dimmed with the high beams.
Fog Lights :
Fog / Foul Weather lights enhance your vehicle's low beams for improved vision in rain, fog or snow. The low and wide light beam travels under severe weather and also improves side visibility. Distance of illumination is similar to your vehicle's low beam, preventing stray light from offending oncoming traffic. Fog / Foul Weather lights come in amber or clear to augment your low beams anytime it's legal in your area.
[QUOTE=MikeT;265564]Moderator hat on:
Geez folks, the OP was asking for help not bashing. Let's play nice as this thread is starting to resemble another forums nuckle dragging antics.
Moderator hat off:
Mike T
Thanks for jumping in here, I belong to other forums that I enjoy visiting a lot more than this one, due to the way members converse here. I'm not sure what other site you are referring to as knuckle dragging, but I think as hard as it is to moderate a site, some of the threads I have visited should here been shut down sooner!
It's too bad, the RL is a great vehicle and there is a lot of knowledge here from a lot of good people, but let's all treat each other with a little more respect.
Go ahead gang...... bash away!
Later
MikeT 12-30-2007, 10:28 PM Thank you for the explanation. That was very helpful. I have one question regarding fog lights: Why would you choose amber versus white? What are the advantages of one over the other?
I'll take a stab at you question since no one else has offered anything:
Yellow: Offers better contrast and detail (At least in shooting glasses in clear weather and bright skies).
White: In fog, the white light is reflected back at the driver reducing visibility even more (ie: Never use high beams in fog as you will only make visibilty worse).
BigFoote 12-31-2007, 05:53 AM Thanks MikeT. That's what I thought, that the amber (at least in the glasses I used to have for fog and night driving) helps you see beter detail in the fog, and white is reflected back. That's where I'm confused. I've been told that the Honda dealer installed fog lights only work with the headlights on, and I would think that this would actually hamper vision in the fog. Can you request the dealer to install them different, so they can be turned on seperate? Wouldn't that be best for fog?I'll take a stab at you question since no one else has offered anything:
Yellow: Offers better contrast and detail (At least in shooting glasses in clear weather and bright skies).
White: In fog, the white light is reflected back at the driver reducing visibility even more (ie: Never use high beams in fog as you will only make visibilty worse).
MikeT 12-31-2007, 02:08 PM Thanks MikeT. That's what I thought, that the amber (at least in the glasses I used to have for fog and night driving) helps you see beter detail in the fog, and white is reflected back. That's where I'm confused. I've been told that the Honda dealer installed fog lights only work with the headlights on, and I would think that this would actually hamper vision in the fog. Can you request the dealer to install them different, so they can be turned on seperate? Wouldn't that be best for fog?
May be best for vision, but not for the roadway laws. I would leave the lights as they are in order to avoid legal issues. If in doubt, just slow down.
BigFoote 01-01-2008, 07:52 AM I'm not interested in driving faster in fog, just having better vision in fog. Why would there be a law against turning on the fog lights separate? (I'm also not interested in impairing others' vision, I'm just not aware of any harm.) Thanks for your information. Happy New Year!
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