I saw this on Fox News' website.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164873,00.html

I can hardly believe this. No such 'offensive' logos in the post season. No school with one of these 'logos' can host a post season event unless they cover up the logos.

No logos of this kind on band/cheerleader uniforms starting in 2008.

So far no report on which schools would be affected. What do you guys/gals think?

I am unsure exactly what to think. I know that I grew up in Ohio and the CLeveland Indians are there. I guess I never really associated the "Indians" with American Indians, nor does it seem like a slight to the American Indians. In fact, they should be more offended that I don't think of the American Indians when thinking of the Cleveland Indians.

I am not a Native American, so I don't really know how it affects them.

I'm not an Indian but I would think it would be something to be proud of. I don't think it any of the NCAA's business.

I guess the next thing is that PETA will have them band Mike the Tiger at LSU. I am not joking on this one.

Tiger

Zero:

Indian logo is becoming a embarrasement for most Americans. As we promote human rights and democracy around the world.

You are from Chicago and illinois which are named after the Chicago and Illini Indian tribes, they are all dead. I presume.

I am from San Jose and we killed all the Salinis Indians. In Montery, California, the Salinis Indians were the most peace loving people who never waged warfare due to mild climate and abundant food source. The spaniards enslaved and killed them all within 50 years.

California does not allow any Indian mascot in high school. I think because Califonia Indians were all killed or raped and we are too ashamed to use their mascot as logos.

Sorry to be so honest, but you did ask....

I'm with Kellcut. Not sure how to feel. :eek:

So..let me get this straight. My parents were both born in Canada. I was born here so that makes me French-American.
Should I have an issue with people eating french fries, french toast, etc??

I do recall this same issue came up in Florida with the FL State Seminoles . When the tribe leaders were and apparently are constantly questioned conerning the use of their name . they have always expressed approval.
I cannot speak for them, but I guess if one native Indian is offended, that answers the question.

Well, ya but, like, how about the Pirates? There aren't many of them around anymore so we dont want to offend them by allowing the team to have mean pictures of them on their uniforms and stuff. They are not all meanies, are they? I think that they should rename the team the Pittsburgh Daffodils. And what about the Cardinals? They have all red birds on their uniformas and stuff. Half of real Cardinals are not red so they are being left out. They must feel real bad. If that isn't discrimination I dont know what is. They should rename the team the Woodpeckers - well maybe not, but they will think of something that wont offend anyone. Is that possible? We dont even have to talk about San Diego. The name Padres has to go. There simply must be seperation of church and baseball just like it says in the constitution.

Actually, Tiger said it best. I'm not an Indian but I would think it would be something to be proud of. I don't think it any of the NCAA's business.

I guess the next thing is that PETA will have them band Mike the Tiger at LSU. I am not joking on this one.

Tiger

I couldn't agree more.

I know that the Seminole Indian tribe of Florida approves of the use of their name as far as Florida State is concerned. I don't know if every other Seminole Indian Tribe in the nation agrees with FSU's use of the name.

It was reported today that FSU is going to challenge the new rule.

They have had some of these same politically correct issues here in Arizona.

It even went so far as to renaming malls and landmarks. One landmark in Phoenix area was known as 'Squaw Peak', a popular hiking mountain. Native Americans say the word 'squaw' is offensive and derogatory.

The Peak was subsequently named Piestewa Peak after Lori Piestewa died in Iraq, the first known Native American female to die in combat.

Somewhere there has to be 'common' sense about being politically correct. In many cases I think college and pro teams are using names out of respect and/or heritage to a region, not to smere the reputation of a race.

This trend will continue and I would not doubt if other groups started finding reasons to change names, mascots, etc. But if a local group that may be recognized don't object (i.e. FSU), then everyone else needs to mind their own damn business. It's not intended to offend and people complain just for the sake of complaining, not because it's offensive.

Why is it that southerners have not said something about those damn 'yankees'? Surely, a throwback to the 1800's. And what about the Los Angeles 'Angels'? It's a matter of time that someone says its offensive because of religious reasons ( same for all those 'devils' teams). Where does it end? It ends when the general public gets fed up and boycotts the bozos that make the policy.

I think George Carlin said it best in the 'bad american' skit. It's time to get over it!!

Mean, Squaw means virgina. do you really want a mountian named Virgina Peak? Are you going to tell your daughter that is a virgina peak?

White people used to refer Indian women as virgina because they could raped Indian women at will, just like black women. Indian women were basically open season, that is why they refer Indian women as virginas.

Sports is entertainment business, including college sport. It is no longer politically correct to depict native Americans as mascot because it is not profitable. As people become more educated, it is not funny any more to use Indians as mascots. It is embarrasing if you read our American history treatment of native Americans.

The reason it is not profitable is because our political leaders find it hard to preach democracy and human rights when there are images of native Americans who were exterminated.

I believe that we treated the pirates and cardinals better than the way we treated native Americans. The native americans had something we wanted badly, We need to take their land, use them as slaves and rape them for fun.

Sorry, you demanded the facts so you got it.

Good post Meanmachine19. I agree.

Blue, I respectfully disagree with you. I do appreciate your input and historical references but I do not think that American History is any less bloody or corrupt than any other nation's history.

true, zero:

I believe the Brits were a lot worse than we were. But their leaders do not preach human rights and democracy around the world. The changes are coming from our political leaders, not native Americans. Our leaders are finding politically inconvenient to have the Indian mascots as we fight muslim terrorism. No one outside the USA believes we are the champions of human rights and democracy after we exterminated 6 million native American.

I know that many of us are not embarrased because we are not trying to convince Arabs how to practice human rights and democracy. Our political leader in washington and state capitals are becoming more globalized and are dealing with foreigner who laugh at our treatement of native Ameircans. So we are now down playing the Indian mascot so we are not a laughing stock when we preach human rights and democracy.

Next time you visit Mt. Lassen national park, there is a plaque where last 3000 known California Indians were masacred in 1900's. You will see palques like this all over California where Indians were exterminated. I think it is because most of the Inidans were killed by the Spaniards, not by us. The spaniard refer to killing Indians as missionized by missionaries.

They have had some of these same politically correct issues here in Arizona.

Why is it that southerners have not said something about those damn 'yankees'? Surely, a throwback to the 1800's. And what about the Los Angeles 'Angels'? It's a matter of time that someone says its offensive because of religious reasons ( same for all those 'devils' teams). Where does it end? It ends when the general public gets fed up and boycotts the bozos that make the policy.

I think George Carlin said it best in the 'bad american' skit. It's time to get over it!!

Actually, there have been complaints/concerns regarding the "devils". The New Jersey Devils to be exact. Some relgious groups have complained that people who cheer the team are in essence, cheering Devil worship. Drivel.

And it should be the Northerns upset over the "Yankees" as it is a derogatory term to describe northerners. When I moved to NC, I'd get a fair amount of being called a "Yankee".

It does need to stop somewhere. PC has gone too far.