T Mac
02-10-2005, 07:19 PM
Interesting discussion re: oil filters going on over at our other site:
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12184
FWIW...
http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12184
FWIW...
Oil Filters used by Honda...T Mac 02-10-2005, 07:19 PM Interesting discussion re: oil filters going on over at our other site: http://www.elementownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12184 FWIW... vertrkr 02-10-2005, 08:24 PM About a year ago I went on a crusade to search the net for every test and info I could find about oil filters. I spent a couple months reading everthing I could find and some guys went to extensive lengths buying all the filters on the market and running them thru some pretty eloborate tests and finally cutting them all open. The verdict from my vast searches was Mobil 1 was the best filter to use. T Mac 02-11-2005, 02:08 PM The findings are in and he concluded that Mobil1 was not only a surprise, but also one of the worst filters he examined. There's quite a bit more info up now in a newly-linked thread he put up just this afternoon. To his credit, he's also got something like two decades experience as an auto mechanic. Enjoy! ;) Matco_Tools 06-02-2005, 10:38 PM T Mac, Thanks for the info from the Element site! Great information on the honda filters, I would have never known. Matco Tools. Northwood 06-02-2005, 10:48 PM And the beat goes on... Are all Honda owners perfectionists, or is just me? :) shovelhd 06-03-2005, 05:50 AM Not guilty. I'm a pragmatist more than anything. :) The fact that this guy is an auto mechanic is just one point of data. For all we know he could be a lousy mechanic, or he could be the second coming of Smokey Yunick. I know electrical engineers who can't wire their house correctly. You spend your money, you make your choices. bigridge 06-03-2005, 06:29 AM what this guy failed to mention is that the bosch and mobil 1 fliter cartridge is made up of a synthetic fiber thus it doesnt have to be as big an element as in the other filters it filters better than those other filters with the bigger element, plus its filter to flow ratio is allot better i will try and find the web site i saw this on and post it shortspark 06-03-2005, 07:09 AM I don't know anything about the Element. Does the Ridgeline take the same filter? bigridge 06-03-2005, 07:16 AM Amsoil filter part #SDF13 this is what i use on my RL along with amsoil 5w20 oil, i use mobil 1 in my maxima and in my mazda both oil and filter with great results steveberger 06-03-2005, 07:18 AM I read his whole thread and even printed it out for my next trip the the auto parts store. He certainly did alot of work, but what bigridge says may be true. It's hard to say which filter performs the best just by doing visual inspections. Smaller or different looking may be deceiving. It could be superior materials or a more inovative design. The Ridgeline itself is an example of this! The real test of any filter is what micron size particles it will trap and how many it will hold before blinding (pluging). It seems counter intuitive, but a filter performs better as it starts to clog. This holds true in an automobile oil filter, up until it becomes so cloged that it starts to bypass the filter media. Anyone know if Consumer Reports has ever done oil filters? They may have more quantitative test methods. I'll search the web later and post if I find anything. swampler 06-03-2005, 07:24 AM I find it very hard to believe that Honda would use a filter that wasn't a quality filter...no matter who made it. bigridge 06-03-2005, 07:42 AM Csimo i don't think he is either more like apples to lemons, your right champion makes allot of the filters out there bigridge 06-03-2005, 07:58 AM There ya go a little detective work goes a long way :) didnt sound like it was a true comparison bigridge 06-03-2005, 08:04 AM http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=000513;p=0 heres a really good showing of how the flow to fliter rate works amsoil k&n and stp did great, mobil1 and the regular fram did pretty good, the rest if you look speak for itself Nicholas 06-03-2005, 12:55 PM Quik question please, is it been stated that the Mobil 1 - 110 oil filter isn't up to par??? This is the replacement for the stock factory filter...just wondering??? shovelhd 06-03-2005, 01:50 PM www.bobistheoilguy.com vertrkr 06-03-2005, 01:57 PM Quik question please, is it been stated that the Mobil 1 - 110 oil filter isn't up to par??? This is the replacement for the stock factory filter...just wondering??? Haven't read it yet but from what I got from this thread is the 110 was compared to a filter twice it's size so that's hardly a fair comparison. Mobil1 is a top of the line filter, you can not go wrong with it. Also of note, they have redesigned their filters and the new ones in black cans will be hitting the store shelves this month. Word on the street is it's a mesh backed, nano-fiber synthetic media. Not real data released on it yet but here's their page anyway: http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Extended_Performance_Oil_Filters.aspx Ridge 06-03-2005, 04:21 PM I've also read from another source that the Mobil 1 was surprisingly disappointing in quality (not even close to being worth the 10+ dollars they charge for it), but buy what ever gives you the warm fuzzies. Seems like there is a consensus that Supertech (Wal-Mart), Honda (Filtech label) as well as Napa Gold (made by Wix) are excellent filters. Stay away from Honda (Honeywell label) because it't the worst Fram. shortspark 06-03-2005, 04:46 PM Does anyone know who makes that supertech filter from Walmart? csimo 06-03-2005, 06:58 PM Does anyone know who makes that supertech filter from Walmart? Champion Labs. Nicholas 06-03-2005, 07:42 PM OK, it's done now...just changed oil and oil filter at 6,863 on the odometer and the service moniter was showing 5% oil life still left. Need the vehicle to head up to Dover, Delaware tomorrow for the Bush and NASCAR races with my son. Changed to Mobil 1 5W20 synthetic oil and using the Mobil 1 - 110 oil filter. Collected a sample of the original "factory" installed oil for a full oil analyis and a TBN report thru Blackstone Laboratories. Also saved the original oil filter so that I can cut it open at work to look inside. Noticed that the original filter is a "Filtec" name brand...bought a Honda oil filter thru the dealer and seen it was a "Honeywell" name brand...asked for a "FIltec" but that was all they had in stock. Time will tell... :confused: shovelhd 06-03-2005, 08:48 PM Have fun at the Monster. I hope the weather cooperates. Take lots of pictures. Go Rusty!!! :) Nicholas 06-03-2005, 09:13 PM Son is a Rusty and Newman fan...lol and thanks! Northwood 06-03-2005, 09:52 PM Son is a Rusty and Newman fan...lol and thanks! Does he know they hate each other? :) Thanks for all the oil filter info, everyone! :cool: shovelhd 06-04-2005, 05:29 AM :) :) :) | |