k757's journey to Ohio.... (lawyer types, please read)

So I'm minding my own business, cruising at 7 mph over the speed limit on I-80 in PA, somewhere in the Williamsport area, when I come across a trooper sitting in the median. I think nothing of it as I am not the fastest one on the road. After I pass, he pulls out and catches up to a group of truckers that I am cruising with. I move over to the right as he is gaining fast as I figure he is going someplace. He pulls in behind me... I'm like "WTF?!?!?!"

So I put on my signal to pull over, he hits the lights and I pull over as he obviously wants to talk to me about something. He walks up, and introduces himself (which I thought was nice). He then asks me why did I pull over. I tell him that he pulled out, came up to my car, then pulled in behind me, so I pulled over. He said, "oh, ok." He then asked me how fast I was going. I said about 72 (7 over), and he says that is exactly what he clocked me at. I have the most perplexed look on my face at this point. SO why is he here? ...... He then says that he pulled me over because my tint was too dark. I say "huh?" He said that he could not see me in my car and asked for my reg and license. As I am pulling them out, he sees a sheriff's business card as that is Sonya's father. He looks at the card and hands it back to me and heads back to his cruiser.

A few minutes later, he comes back and wrote me up for illegal tint @$103. He says that he does not have to test it with a meter. (HUH?) He also said that he COULD have written me up for a couple other things (oh yeah, like what?) SO if it looks illegal, it is illegal?!?!? Here is the kicker, I have Florida plates, where my tint is LEGAL. I think my ticket is not valid as my vehicle is legal in my home state. So every vehicle has to be legal in every state, not just where you live? :confused: If this were the case, all state's laws would be the same, no?

Any lawyer types out there?


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Wow what a (insert foul language word here). Sorry Keith. Seems quite normal to me though. They prey on out of state people like you. I am not a lwyer, but yes its true. Your car must be legal in the state you are in at the time, not just your state rules. They love finding fault in tint, loud exhaust, and no front licence plate. Have a great trip, regardless of the haters.
Brad

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What a drag! Kinda sounded like he had a bad day.
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Back in the day, I would never have written that ticket.
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Although stuff like that can be used to pull someone over, I would have
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never actually written it - especially if you were only doing ~7 over.
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Either way, without the LEO documenting the light percentage with a
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calibrated meter or light card - I bet you can get it tossed if you try...
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or at least I hope you can. :D

Bottom line: Illegal tint in his jurisdiction is illegal regardless of the home state. I do not beleive the statement that he doesn't have to test it, but what do I know :o There is such a thing as officer' descretion. Maybe you just looked guilty :p

Keith - Sounds like my PA experience when I was moving and driving my tinted windowed 1987 Taurus in 1988 to the NYC area. I got stopped in PA and ticketed for speeding when I was not speeding because of the tint, and then stopped three times in NJ all about the window tint. As soon as I got to Jersey City, I had to pull it off the tint.

It could have been worse, try driving across PA and NJ with an Arkansas license plate and tinted windows....

What a drag! Kinda sounded like he had a bad day.
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
Back in the day, I would never have written that ticket.
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
Although stuff like that can be used to pull someone over, I would have
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
never actually written it - especially if you were only doing ~7 over.
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
Either way, without the LEO documenting the light percentage with a
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
calibrated meter or light card - I bet you can get it tossed if you try...
BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE - BUY ANOTHER RIDGELINE
or at least I hope you can. :D

Ahhhh -- Voices you going sumlime on us again..

was just looking to see what the law says in CA and stumbled across this link at a company site with shops in other states on interpretation of laws goverening tinting in PA. Looks like there is more left to interpretation in PA than some places. In CA like many places, you need to allow 70% transmision which isnt a very dark tint. I have a number of friends who have obviously darker tint and havnt had any problems, but.. they dont use carpool lanes anymore because if an officer has any trouble seeing who is in the vehicle you are asking to be stopped.

PA Window Tinting Law, Statutes, and Regulations (http://www.berksweb.com/users/dmv/tint/)

Yes and no. Yes the tint might have been illegal in Pen but legal in Florida, but Pen cannot always trump the state laws of other states.

I'm no lawyer, but technicalities always kill the courts. I have been to court on a speeding ticket where I was clocked by radar, and I beat the ticket in court, just payed court fees 45$ as opposed to over 200$ for the ticket and points on my license.

If you do decide to challange it, here are some tips from my experience. You will have to show up in court in Penn, can you do that if you are from Florida? If yes, then call the court and tell them you cannot apprear on the scheduled date, ask for as much of a future date as possible. Ask for a maximum extension on the court date. 30 days is norm, sometimes 60. Tell them your work or family issues will not allow you to appear on the orignal date.

Get the tint measured in Florida, then if possible, see if it is or is not over what Pen allows. Mention that the officer did not think he needed to use the "meter" to measure. That's like saying I estimate you were going at least 100 mph in a 50 zone, but I didn't use anything to mesure it. Very subjective.

20% of tickets written to out of staters get dropped because the policeman figure that you won't show up from Fla or whever you are from and he forgets the court date, especially if it's 2-3 months out. He or she basically think's it's bucks in the bag and a stat for them. The judge calls you and you stand in the docket, the judge calls the officer, usually twice. Officer no show means ticket thrown out in most states. Check with Penn to make sure.

Subpoena all possible equipment maintenance records as well as the ticketing officers training record. Many tickets are thrown out becaue the maintenance records are incomplete, or the unit has a history of problems, or the officer never went to the training course and it's not in any record. have documentation that the measuring device used in Fla was properly calibrated.

Show up to the court, have as much of the documentation as possible. You have already impresed them just by being there! When in court, speak clearly and respectfully, but also from a position of strength. Many Judges size you up while you are presenting your case. All you have to do is get the judge to think that there may be some isues with the case, the officers judgement, etc. You are innocent until proven guilty, and if you appear to be a no-nonsense, law abiding citizen it can make a big difference in the outcome.

OK last gasp from me. As example, Virginia is a two plate state, West Virginia a rear plate state, and D.C. is a 2 plate requirement. Virginia respects the laws of WV and does not write tickets even though they legally could. it would not good for relations. A lot of folks live in WV and work in DC for the feds. The DC police were writing tickets to WV cars because they only had one plate. WV'ers started parking in Virginia and taking public trans in to DC. End result was DC lost a lot of ticket revenue and what hurt them the most, less WV cars in the parking garages ment less dollars in the DC economy. DC had to back off.

Bottom line though is this:

103$ may not be worth the effort since it's not amoving violation and should carry no points or record.

Good luck.

Go to the link that Schwejo gave. Man that link is killer, good work Schwejo!

Bottom line though is this:

103$ may not be worth the effort since it's not amoving violation and should carry no points or record.



The state is banking on it. Gotta keep gas in the cruisers.

Maybe you just looked guilty :p

It's that new-fangled Accordian sporty-sedan.:p

Did you hear something? Sounded like crying. :eek:

Did you hear something? Sounded like crying. :eek:

LOLROFL> We love you Mike.

Did you hear something? Sounded like crying. :eek:

Mike, nice call man!! Keith, listen to SpartanML....the trooper targeted you because you were driving a girly car with tints and not a real man's truck.;) :D

As a citizen of Pa all I can say is welcome.

Now, how do manage to keep Fl plates and live in Ct having recently moved from La? You probably confused the poor Trooper! :eek:

You just need to have residency in FL.

He must be saving beaucoup bucks in registration, taxes, and insurance. These things are very expensive in CT. Lots of CT people with FL homes do this.

Just another thought; since he is from FL, what would happen if he just didn't pay the ticket at all? PA Highway Patrol really going to go to FL to get him over this?

Would they allow him to appear on a video link from FL and fax his tint info to them? Sounds like this cop was up to no good, not really pulling you over, but while he had you stopped...:mad:

I think it has something to do with the color of the Accord!! The Polished Metal Metallic color is so irresistible the cops just want a better look! First road trip I took in our Polished Metal Metallic Accord I was nailed for 75 in a 55. ;)

Just another thought; since he is from FL, what would happen if he just didn't pay the ticket at all? PA Highway Patrol really going to go to FL to get him over this?

Would they allow him to appear on a video link from FL and fax his tint info to them? Sounds like this cop was up to no good, not really pulling you over, but while he had you stopped...:mad:

Unlike a moving violation I think all Pa could do was issue a bench warrant that would be effective for Pa only ( I think ).

Just another thought; since he is from FL, what would happen if he just didn't pay the ticket at all? PA Highway Patrol really going to go to FL to get him over this?

No, but the next time he gets stopped in PA he would be hauled to the hoosegow and his Accord would be towed.

Should we start the "Free K757 Now" bail fund now before this happens?

No, but the next time he gets stopped in PA he would be hauled to the hoosegow and his Accord would be towed.

Should we start the "Free K757 Now" bail fund now before this happens?

I'm thinking T shirts........:D

I'm thinking T shirts........:D

I'll call Lou Dobbs at CNN, he needs another "cause".:rolleyes:
Keith, you really need to stop hanging out with ruffians and scoundrels. Guilt by association, don't ya know.
Never did think much of PA, but Pizza Man seems to be a good chap.:D

Never did think much of PA, but Pizza Man seems to be a good chap.:D
I've been on the wrong side of the law a few times in my younger days, but I did settle into the "good chap" role eventually..... got too old and fat to be anything else! :o :D

On the return trip I would suggest Keith take the northern route via Detroit, Toronto, and Montreal thus avoiding PA!!;)

Keith dumped his RL, lock him up! :D

CD

It's perfect, if they would go after his car if they saw him again, he should get back to the real world and get another Ridgeline :D , then they wouldn't know it was him (unless he got stopped again).

This is great. He's gonna check into his hotel room, fire up his laptop and find this thread.

Let's get it to 100 pages by 6pm!!!!!

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Fatal mistake #1- NEVER tell them how fast you were going! Now he's got your admission to speeding.....just say you were'nt sure how fast you were going. He probably felt he was giving you a break by not writing you a speeding ticket that carries "points" with it, by giving you a non-moving violation instead.
As for the tinted windows; I don't know about PA, but in Jersey as long as you are not driving a NJ registered vehicle, we cannot enforce that. The ticket should be a loser, if you were to contest it. He's probably counting on the fact that you won't waste time to show up in Court.
I would have no problem with what the Trooper did, if he would have wrote you a "legit" ticket as a downgrade from speeding. It really burns me though when I see other cops do what he did. For 7 m.p.h. over the limit you would have just gotten a warning from me, if I would have even bothered pulling you over for that. Just my 2-cents worth... :rolleyes:

Keith, every Ohioan knows Pa sucks (I know, I know, you guys think the same of Ohio)-I am not from Ohio, so who cares:D

I can not give you 100$ back but I have some cheeeeese for you:)

Keith, every Ohioan knows Pa sucks (I know, I know, you guys think the same of Ohio)-I am not from Ohio, so who cares:D


Arrrrgh! Dem's fightin' words! See yunz onna gridiron! :mad: :p ;)

Hey, it sounds like the NY trooper that pulled me over a couple of Sundays ago except he wrote me a speeding ticket and asked me about the window tint. Either things are slow for all troopers or they really like our trucks.

Slow? No. Coffers empty? Absolutely. Revenue generation at its finest.

In all seriousness, he pulled you over because he couldn't see you with that tint. Seeing that you drive a girly car now, the officer thought he might be pulling over a young pretty, giving the office a chance at using some of his pick up lines. Poor cop must of clenched his chest when your window went down and you staring back at him.... :eek:

Now if you were in a Ridgeline.... :p

Jeesh, I've been giving you a hard time lately. And it has nothing to do with the Yankees or the Red Sox... By the way, did the officer have a Red Sox pin on his lapel? :D

In all seriousness, he pulled you over because he couldn't see you with that tint.
If I dumped my Ridge, I wouldn't want to be seen either! :eek: :D

I heard the Ridge dumped him.:p

Keith should have thought about his situation quicker and offered up a delicious Woodchuck Cider TM to our valued law enforcement professional......:D.....however, he did the right thing by not saying " Sorry officer, I was too drunk to notice how dark my windows were tinted!" :eek:

Mike, nice call man!! Keith, listen to SpartanML....the trooper targeted you because you were driving a girly car with tints and not a real man's truck.;) :D

The sad thing is I've actually had a DUBLIN, OH cop say this to me... (I was witness to an accident, thankfully, not my own) - he called my truck a girly truck and said I needed to be driving something more manly like an F-150.

Don't-cha wish you could whip out a retort like: "Nah, I like my truck. I don't need to compensate for anything...." I think if I'd had done that, I would have found out exactly what a cavity search feels like. :eek:

- ridgeln

Just spoke to Keith up in Dublin, Ohio. He has no clue what you guys are writing. Just keep posting so he will be busy reading it! But even with 103$ less, he still looked very happy:D

In all seriousness, he pulled you over because he couldn't see you with that tint. Seeing that you drive a girly car now, the officer thought he might be pulling over a young pretty, giving the office a chance at using some of his pick up lines. Poor cop must of clenched his chest when your window went down and you staring back at him.... :eek:

Now if you were in a Ridgeline.... :p

Jeesh, I've been giving you a hard time lately. And it has nothing to do with the Yankees or the Red Sox... By the way, did the officer have a Red Sox pin on his lapel? :D

Just imagine this with long hair... One pretty lady.... :rolleyes:

Just imagine this with long hair... One pretty lady.... :rolleyes:

With or without the baldspot?:eek:

Keith has no clue??? Really???

Yes, REALLY! I am in Columbus, right, and I went to register today. I had to meet him because of the manual/cheese exchange and I mentiond it to him. Quite some people told him that they read about his bad-fortune, but he has no clue what you guys are saying.

I loved his old Ridgie picture some pages before!

Keith has no clue??? Really???

Perhaps that would have gone over better if you said Keith was "clueless"? ;)

I think that Kieth's ticket is a sign of things to come. A lot of folks have decided to take the pedal off of the metal. The locals are going to have to keep up the revenue somehow. I see the number of tint, broken equipment, and loud stereo tickets going up significantly.

PS. I'm all for the loud stereo tickets. There is nothing I hate more than to pull up to a light next to some kid who is listening to some loud crap that has enough bass to wake up my son in the back seat. Loud bass gives me a wee touch of the road rage. :eek:

LMFAO! You guys are killing me! Poor Keith, getting all this grief (and deservedly so), for abandoning his Ridge.... Since I'm sorta new here, I don't know the story... so WHY Keith, why would you turn your back on such a fine vehicle????:eek: Just curious...

LMFAO! You guys are killing me! Poor Keith, getting all this grief (and deservedly so), for abandoning his Ridge.... Since I'm sorta new here, I don't know the story... so WHY Keith, why would you turn your back on such a fine vehicle????:eek: Just curious...

He claims gas mileage, truth is hes worse than an 18 year older when it comes to the next big thing in cars. He's always looking for excuses to buy a new car! Ridgeline got tossed, as was his "next big thing" Civic, I give the Accord six months from here.
:D

PS. I'm all for the loud stereo tickets. There is nothing I hate more than to pull up to a light next to some kid who is listening to some loud crap that has enough bass to wake up my son in the back seat. Loud bass gives me a wee touch of the road rage. :eek:

I'll make sure and keep my 1500W out of Ohio. :D

Seriously, it's not that loud. Even at full tilt it's hard to hear 30 feet away.

Well - I can tell you with extreme confidence that Keith does know what he wants to buy in "OH-Ten" (yes folks, 20010... hmmmm) - he is going to get a diesel Ridgeline.

Now - anyone want to make a bet on whether Keith will be around in 18002 years?

No - we had NOT been consuming adult beverages at this point of the evening.


-ridgeln

I'd rather bet that the 2010 Ridgeline will not have a diesel.

He's always looking for excuses to buy a new car! Ridgeline got tossed, as was his "next big thing" Civic, I give the Accord six months from here.
:D

Mike, I give him five until his next Honda purchase...probably the Fit. Are we taking any bets?;) :D

I just saw Keith on Monday (Woodchuck transfer) and he's really, really disgusted with his Accord (long story but it does appear to be somewhat of a lemon) and this tint ticket just might be the straw that broke the camel's back! I did catch him gazing lustfully at my RL, so I got out of there quickly before his desires overcame his friendship! :eek:

As regards this tint issue, from what I've read online it appears that you're liable for the laws in the state in which you're currently driving, regardless of what the laws are in your state of residence. Know that this is a big problem with some of our friends up in VT (which allows NO tinting on the front side windows) who winter in FL and have their windows tinted down there.

Mike, I give him five until his next Honda purchase...probably the Fit. Are we taking any bets?;) :D
I'll see your Boréale Noire and raise you a Woodchuck Dark & Dry!

Mike, I give him five until his next Honda purchase...probably the Fit. Are we taking any bets?;) :D

Might as well if he's waiting for that 2010 diesel.

[QUOTE=MoosePond;319570]he's really, really disgusted with his Accord (long story but it does appear to be somewhat of a lemon)QUOTE]

Now I am worried!! Since I have the twin to Keith's Accord could I possibly have one of those "somewhat of a lemon" Accords also??:( At least I was satisfied with the OEM window tint!!:rolleyes:

Did Keith drive to Vermont just to get Woodchuck? Why doesn't he just get it in CT? Or do you have a special connection for discounted Woodchuck in VT?

[QUOTE=MoosePond;319570]he's really, really disgusted with his Accord (long story but it does appear to be somewhat of a lemon)QUOTE]

Now I am worried!! Since I have the twin to Keith's Accord could I possibly have one of those "somewhat of a lemon" Accords also??:( At least I was satisfied with the OEM window tint!!:rolleyes:

Don't let Keith's blind confusion and rage corrupt you! He is just an overgrown kid looking for something to beef about! Don't be sucked in! :eek:

Did Keith drive to Vermont just to get Woodchuck? Why doesn't he just get it in CT? Or do you have a special connection for discounted Woodchuck in VT?
Nope, I drove to Danbury to deliver it! Don't know if you can buy it in CT or not since I rarely go there (usually just driving through on my way to Boston or the Cape - and never to shop) but I offered to pick up a case for him since I was sort of "at the source" and was restocking my own larder as well.

[QUOTE=25 Year Honda Owner;319641]

Don't let Keith's blind confusion and rage corrupt you! He is just an overgrown kid looking for something to beef about! Don't be sucked in! :eek:

I really like mine since I got the bounce out of the tires!! Maybe his problem is that he can't see out of his Accord!!:rolleyes: My visibility is fine!!:cool:

The windshield tint does look a little dark!!:rolleyes: ;) :)

According to PA law it seems that the tint must allow 70% of light to pass through!! Here is the link PA Window Tinting Law, Statutes, and Regulations (http://www.berksweb.com/users/dmv/tint/)

The sad thing is I've actually had a DUBLIN, OH cop say this to me... (I was witness to an accident, thankfully, not my own) - he called my truck a girly truck and said I needed to be driving something more manly like an F-150.

Don't-cha wish you could whip out a retort like: "Nah, I like my truck. I don't need to compensate for anything...." I think if I'd had done that, I would have found out exactly what a cavity search feels like. :eek:

- ridgeln

Nah, I would've replied "Nah, I like driving a vehicle made in America and will be reliable past five years," or - in a feminine tone - "oh, sweetie, why thank you! I've always liked a man in uniform."

As for the ticket it makes me a very leary to go out of state as I drive a practically de-badged CR-V with "Arizona" tint meaning the windows are a bit darker then other places allow. I don't believe there should be such discrepancies allowed between states JUST because they are driving in the state. Yes, you should know the laws of the road but I don't think a vehicle with out-of-state plates should be pulled over for a non-moving violation UNLESS it is a severe safety hazard to either an officer or the passenger. From an officer's perspective, yes, a high-level of tint shouldn't be allowed and if I was a police officer I'd pull over a vehicle (test the tint) and if appropriate issue a ticket.

The windshield tint does look a little dark!!:rolleyes: ;) :)

According to PA law it seems that the tint must allow 70% of light to pass through!! Here is the link PA Window Tinting Law, Statutes, and Regulations (http://www.berksweb.com/users/dmv/tint/)

Waaaiiit a minute here. Is that picture from a HONDA meet or a "Ridgeline" meet? If so, then why is there an ACCORD AND an Element? What's going on there?

Nah, I would've replied "Nah, I like driving a vehicle made in America and will be reliable past five years," or - in a feminine tone - "oh, sweetie, why thank you! I've always liked a man in uniform."
...
Waaaiiit a minute here. Is that picture from a HONDA meet or a "Ridgeline" meet? If so, then why is there an ACCORD AND an Element? What's going on there?

We aren't sure about that Accord guy... :)

My truck was made in Canada - as are most all Ridgelines right now. But, soon all Ridgelines will be coming off the line in Alabama (Wohoo - next International meet? Alabama?)

-ridgeln

We aren't sure about that Accord guy... :)

My truck was made in Canada - as are most all Ridgelines right now. But, soon all Ridgelines will be coming off the line in Alabama (Wohoo - next International meet? Alabama?)

-ridgeln

That's what I'm saying! Let's head down to Lincoln, AL, home of Honda of Alabama Mfg., LLC. Or for nostalgia's sage, we could still go up to Alliston, ON, CA - that's were our current trucks were born.

We aren't sure about that Accord guy... :)

My truck was made in Canada - as are most all Ridgelines right now. But, soon all Ridgelines will be coming off the line in Alabama (Wohoo - next International meet? Alabama?) -ridgeln

Keith is an alright guy!! Just does not know which Honda he prefers!!:) He has had a Civic, RL, and Accord within the past year. After this past weekend could an "E" be next? :rolleyes: Wow!! Lincoln, AL in 2009, just a few miles down the road!!:)

25 Year Honda Owner, thanks for bringing the picture of keith's Accord to this thread. I was in a hurry posting, before going out again with the great group of people.

Jaiden, I am with you on that one. Would be great to see BigAl again!!! OK, otherwise Canada, the Ridgeline plant.

my 2 cents, i talked to a friend of mine who is a police officer the law here in mass. is that they can not give you a ticket for tints if you have out of state plates where it is legal there :)

my 2 cents, i talked to a friend of mine who is a police officer the law here in mass. is that they can not give you a ticket for tints if you have out of state plates where it is legal there :)

See attached photo taken by Chris. Apparently while he was taking a photo of his accessory mirror turn signal indicators, Keith passed by in the inside lane with his window partially down.:rolleyes: View the contrast!! No jury would ever convict him with this photo as evidence!;)

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
You all crack me up. For those with real advice/info, it is greatly appreciated.

I had MANY people ask me about my tint ordeal and if I had been reading the thread all weekend.... even a couple of the Honda Engineers! :D (yes, they read all sorts of things on the ROC)

As for a future Ridge, I can definitely see it, especially after my "ride" at the TRC :eek: :eek: ... and a secret hint I got about future colors ;)

: ... and a secret hint I got about future colors ;)

HOT PINK ?????:D

To Mike aka SpartanML - As we were chatting b-4 I left... Losing an hour to eastern time I got to the airforce base around 2-3 o'clock.... as requested Keith got alot of .... at the meet! :D

and Yes in the Parking lot with Gary I was thinking of a sign for him to hold up... Like .... Hey SpartanML.... at least your not driving this --- (Gary Holding sign - arrow pointing at car!!!) :cool:

ps The GF like the RL ;)

:D

HOT PINK ?????:D

LOL!! Yeah, with tinted-out windows all around! :eek: ;) :D

Hey Romeo, I was in your neighborhood Saturday night. Had to detour around the plane that crashed onto Rt47 in Belleplain. We had dinner in Cape May.

Wish you would have told me...I've was on vacation the last week. Go back in tonight. Maybe we could've met up for a drink. :rolleyes:

HOT PINK ?????:D

That'd be better than KIWI.

What a drag! Kinda sounded like he had a bad day.

Or hadn't made his quota and by pulling over BEFORE he turned on his lights, you gave him an excuse to work on his numbers. :mad:

Too, some Officer find it insulting to 'sport' a Business card, badge or other from a different Sheriff's, Police, or Trooper's area. They feel you are 'using' it to skirt the law. **WHICH, you clearly weren't doing!!** :o

I would contact a lawyer in that area that offers free 30 minute consults(use google) and either fax or mail him a copy of your ticket and let them direct you further.

Sorry, Hope your trip home was unE-ventful ...

~Kerri

I called the phone number provided on my ticket today. I stated that I felt my ticket was unjust and explained my story (well, I made some of it up) (Fl vehicle, passing through PA and that my car is legal in FL as my sheriff friend had the tint installed and is a stickler for the law, blah, blah) and the lady told me to call back tomorrow after she talked to the judge. So another day to find out my fate as I'm certainly not driving 3.5 hrs to the court and 3.5 hrs back, not for ~$100 and no points.
That'd be better than KIWI.That's what we hear, though the Ridgeline owners didn't have a clue on the Element owner's laughs.
Too, some Officer find it insulting to 'sport' a Business card, badge or other from a different Sheriff's, Police, or Trooper's area. They feel you are 'using' it to skirt the law. **WHICH, you clearly weren't doing!!** :o Actually I didn't. It was with my registration and pulled it aside when I pulled out my registration. He asked what that was, so I handed it to him.

Actually I didn't. It was with my registration and pulled it aside when I pulled out my registration. He asked what that was, so I handed it to him.

I'm terribly sorry, I wasn't implying you had displayed it. I was just commenting on how I've been yelled at for assuming I could get out of a ticket by flashing an old boyfriends shield. :o

Keep us posted and my fingers are crossed things go your way!!

I'm terribly sorry, I wasn't implying you had displayed it. I was just commenting on how I've been yelled at for assuming I could get out of a ticket by flashing an old boyfriends shield. :ono worries... what are you doing with an ex-bf's shield?!?! Hmmmm :D

Overall, the Elements had more issues getting there than the Ridges. Sitting in traffic behind the tractor trailer crash and another Element hitting the deer. I'll take my issue over the others.

no worries... what are you doing with an ex-bf's shield?!?! Hmmmm :D

Overall, the Elements had more issues getting there than the Ridges. Sitting in traffic behind the tractor trailer crash and another Element hitting the deer. I'll take my issue over the others.

Sorry, here we are talking statistics!!! More Es so the chances to have more problems are higher! When you will show up in that many, who knows what will happen:rolleyes:

Sorry, here we are talking statistics!!! More Es so the chances to have more problems are higher! When you will show up in that many, who knows what will happen:rolleyes:

Lies! D@mned lies! Statistics!

i got a few badges i will let you use:D

Next year at the Alabama National Meet, be sure to drive through VA, with your radar in plain view. :D

A friend of mine in college had a very nice badge that read "USDA Federal Breast Inspector" with a cool leather flip case & everything. This was back in the hippie-dip days & I think it worked fairly well in barroom settings :p

Next year at the Alabama National Meet, be sure to drive through VA, with your radar in plain view. :D

Got to go through Tennessee also, A county mountie had the nerve to pull me over because I was only 20 MPH over the limit!!;)

Keith is an alright guy!! Just does not know which Honda he prefers!!:) He has had a Civic, RL, and Accord within the past year. After this past weekend could an "E" be next? :rolleyes: Wow!! Lincoln, AL in 2009, just a few miles down the road!!:)

And some people say I trade in too often!

See attached photo taken by Chris. Apparently while he was taking a photo of his accessory mirror turn signal indicators, Keith passed by in the inside lane with his window partially down.:rolleyes: View the contrast!! No jury would ever convict him with this photo as evidence!;)

I don't know, that looks like he could be flashing gang signs. Better watch out before he pulls out his gat and busts a cap in ya!

Lies! D@mned lies! Statistics!

Nope - it's just a fact that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

no worries... what are you doing with an ex-bf's shield?!?! Hmmmm :D

It was my going away present to myself. :p **long dramatic story**

It was my going away present to myself. :p **long dramatic story**thanks for not sharing, now that is a gift you just gave the ROC. :D :D :D

Nope - it's just a fact that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Actually, it's 85.34% based on the latest census estimates (p < .05).

P.S. I'm pretty sure that Keith's just trying to catch up with me & 25 Year Honda Owner by buying new Hondas as fast as he can. He will soon attain Honda Ho status :D