Pop & Lock Installation

First thing I want to say is a big THANK YOU to Joe (Pizza Man) for making the P&L group buy possible. He got us a great price, and did all the hard work....getting our orders, getting the locks shipped from the manufacturer, then mailing them out to us. Standing ovation to you, Joe! (I'm standing as I type this. :D )

I'm starting this separate thread for the Pop & Lock installation so it won't get lost in the "P&L Ordering" thread. Hopefully, folks will post their ideas and tips for the P&L install. Here are some things I encountered that might be helpful to others as they do their own installation.

1. The instructions which come with the lock (and Joe helped write) are very good. The instructions AND a very good picture of the installation are here.... http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/324217-post12.html and I've also included the pic with this post.

I printed the pic of the installed lock (the one showing the workings of the lock system inside the tailgate), and it was tremendously helpful to look at when I was installing the lock. Nice to see exactly what it's supposed to look like.

2. This post by edarnoldnet was also very helpful with the installation..... http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/exterior/22393-pop-n-lock-available-now-but-beware-poor-instructions.html Very good tips to aid with installation and supplement the instructions.

3. In step #2, be sure you read the part about exchanging the bolts holding the bracket. Be sure to note that you can exchange the bolts you take out with the bolts you'll also take out in step #6. This is clearly covered in the instructions, but I almost overlooked it. If you don't exchange the bolts, the washers on the ones you initially take out won't let the bolts fit when the new bracket is installed.

4. The drill bits recommended for the installation are unusual sizes, and I didn't have either size recommended. However, you can easily substitute drill bits that are close to the sizes recommended. Just use the holes in the bracket as your guide, and pick bits that will fit OK through those holes.

5. Biggest problem I had was re-installing the tailgate cap. Took me almost 30 minutes to get the d*mn thing back on right!! In fact, that took longer than installing the lock. Be sure to look at how the plastic cap is made, and how it fits on the white clips. It has to be positioned just to the right of the clips...so the openings in the cap fit over the clips, then it slides to the left to lock into the clips. You may need to push your hip against the middle of the cap to make sure it doesn't bow in the middle.

If anyone has any additional tips for re-installing the tailgate cap, I'm sure they'd be appreciated. I was unprepared for how big a hassle that was. At least for me.

The entire install took me about an hour and fifteen minutes, but I took my time and went slowly. And a big part of my time (20-25 minutes) was spent trying to get the tailgate cap back on. Installing the lock is actually pretty simple. It all fits together very easily. Again, having the picture (mentioned above) was very helpful. Even if you're not too mechanically inclined, you should be able to do this installation yourself.

If I can provide further info, please post on this thread or PM me. Good luck with your installation!
Tom

Caution on the directions: Look at the lower left hand corner for the date code... In the "Silver" set, the instructions are from "11-20-07"... The set that came with with the black is current, "6-08"...

With either set of directions and the photo Tom pasted into this thread you should be able to do the install with no problem. It's pretty self explanatory.

Do be afraid of the instructions. If I could figure it out anyone can. :)

Thanks for the helpful hints guys. This thread will really come in handy when I go to install mine. Yeah, I got the silver, and I noticed it has the "11-20-07" instructions and noticed it there are only 8 steps in the older instructions, as opposed to 10 in the new.

Thanks again guys.

I would appreciate it if someone could take a picture of the mechanism when it is locked so I can see what it is doing when it locks. I'm also curious, can you move both handles when the lock is engaged?

Thanks

I would appreciate it if someone could take a picture of the mechanism when it is locked so I can see what it is doing when it locks. I'm also curious, can you move both handles when the lock is engaged?

Thanks
The P&L jams the handle mechanisms, Chris. The handles move slightly, up to the point where they contact the jam.

Just finished... some of my observations and pics.... The lock is more for peace of mind... It should keep out the hitch hikers... :rolleyes:

I used some gorilla glue to lock down the front half of the tumbler assembly to the back half. I wanted to make sure that if some wants to break in they can take the whole tumbler assembly and not just the front half; leaving the main shaft still attached to the locking mechanism and operational with some pliers.


3. In step #2, be sure you read the part about exchanging the bolts holding the bracket. Be sure to note that you can exchange the bolts you take out with the bolts you'll also take out in step #6. This is clearly covered in the instructions, but I almost overlooked it. If you don't exchange the bolts, the washers on the ones you initially take out won't let the bolts fit when the new bracket is installed.... No need for mine. All bolts are identaical... all contained the washer and locking washer... Fit without any issues.

5. Biggest problem I had was re-installing the tailgate cap. Took me almost 30 minutes to get the d*mn thing back on right!! In fact, that took longer than installing the lock. Be sure to look at how the plastic cap is made, and how it fits on the white clips. It has to be positioned just to the right of the clips...so the openings in the cap fit over the clips, then it slides to the left to lock into the clips.

I lined the tailgate cap up with the tailgate down. Position the screw holes of the cap just right of the holes on tailgate backing... The cap then slides right onto the tailgate.
You may need to push your hip against the middle of the cap to make sure it doesn't bow in the middle....
If anyone has any additional tips for re-installing the tailgate cap, I'm sure they'd be appreciated. I was unprepared for how big a hassle that was. At least for me.

I had to turn the driver’s side inside clip 90 degrees as it would not catch but would come out and wedge in, making the cap not completely fit. I also did not use a rubber mallet to take it off, just used muscles and my weight..... :) ... I also did not require a rubber mallet to put the cap back on. It slides with a bit of effort. To make things even easier, don’t clean the torx screw holes; use the dirt to realign the back panel. :D

I would appreciate it if someone could take a picture of the mechanism when it is locked so I can see what it is doing when it locks. I'm also curious, can you move both handles when the lock is engaged?

Thanks

Slightly.... Since the sideways handle operates via cable, I could see myself forgetting it is locked and overtime stretching the cable to the point of it not working...

From an engineering perspective :rolleyes: .... I think the slight play is purposeful due to the tailgate mechanism being a conglomerate of metal and plastic. I would hate for the locking mechanism to be so tight with no handle movement to the point where temperature fluctuations would crack the plastic parts....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I used some gorilla glue to lock down the front half of the tumbler assembly to the back half. I wanted to make sure that if some wants to break in they can take the whole tumbler assembly and not just the front half; leaving the main shaft still attached to the locking mechanism and operational with some pliers.
Assuming that it would break the way you describe.

The main shaft is plastic, my guess would be the screw securing the Crank Link to the Tumbler shaft would strip out under that kind of stress before the lock would split apart. This would leave nothing for the pliers to grab. I'm not into destructive testing, so I'll leave those assumptions up to you. I'm satisfied knowing this lock offers more security than the lock on my Tonneau.

I agree the lock is for piece of mind, as is every other lock I own. As I said on a previous post in another Thread, a properly placed crowbar will open a Tonneau in seconds. This lock offers an additional level of security and hassle to anyone trying to get into it. It wasn't designed to replace anything at Ft. Knox.

PIZZA MAN,

I'm sorry to ask, I'm just wondering if I can still join the group buy for pop & lock? I posted on your ordering thread and asked the same question. Please let me know and the method of payment. I want a black color.

Thank you and appreciate your reply.

Just finish installing my white Pop N Lock. Color match is very good and looks like it was straight from the factory. This thread came in real handy when I install mine. Thanks for the helpful hints and great pictures. They really made quite easy.

Biggest problem I had was re-installing the tailgate cap. Took me almost 30 minutes to get the d*mn thing back on right!! In fact, that took longer than installing the lock. Be sure to look at how the plastic cap is made, and how it fits on the white clips. It has to be positioned just to the right of the clips...so the openings in the cap fit over the clips, then it slides to the left to lock into the clips. You may need to push your hip against the middle of the cap to make sure it doesn't bow in the middle.

If anyone has any additional tips for re-installing the tailgate cap, I'm sure they'd be appreciated. I was unprepared for how big a hassle that was. At least for me.

Tom

I just got done installing my lock. It doesn't get much easier than this Pop & Lock. Thanks again Joe!

As for the tailgate cap, I tried the way the instructions say to reinstall it one time, and I can see what Tom meant. This was going to be a hassle getting all the clips locked in place. So, I took all the clips out of the tailgate and slid them in the spaces in the cap, lined the holes up and popped it right on.

Edit: I just looked in the Ridgeline service manual. It says,

" Before reinstalling the top trim, install the upper clips on the trim. Hold the trim up, and fit all the upper clips into the holes in the tailgate, then push on the trim until the clips snap into place."

Hope this helps.

finished my install today and overall it was pretty easy. As with everyone, the final trim piece was a bit of a hassle. Good to be able to lock stuff securely in the bed. Thanks Joe.

Just curious if anyone received a Warranty Card with their lock? The instruction sheet lists the card as one of the contents.

I agree the lock is for piece of mind, as is every other lock I own. As I said on a previous post in another Thread, a properly placed crowbar will open a Tonneau in seconds. This lock offers an additional level of security and hassle to anyone trying to get into it. It wasn't designed to replace anything at Ft. Knox.

How many seconds? :D .... All tonneaus are not created equal.... ;) .. You could cut my side rail bolts and it still would not lift up OR collapse down... :eek: ...

I give them 10 minutes... Why so long? Once they figured they are wasting their time on the cover and don't want to cut their hands on the sharp metal, they will use the crow bar to bust open the tailgate on the side... :)

PIZZA MAN,

I'm sorry to ask, I'm just wondering if I can still join the group buy for pop & lock? I posted on your ordering thread and asked the same question. Please let me know and the method of payment. I want a black color.

Thank you and appreciate your reply.
Give me a few days, Ridgeline08_4me. I still have about 25 more to ship this week. When I get those done, I'll put the extras I bought up for sale. The Group Buy is officially done.

On a side note, Pop & Lock is still interested in selling them to us in groups. I may do this again if there is enough interest.

Give me a few days, Ridgeline08_4me. I still have about 25 more to ship this week. When I get those done, I'll put the extras I bought up for sale. The Group Buy is officially done.

On a side note, Pop & Lock is still interested in selling them to us in groups. I may do this again if there is enough interest.

Thank You Pizza Man, as soon as you get a chance PM me with detail - cost and payment thru paypal.

Step 10 of the revised instructions should be changed to read something more like:

Place the clips into the top trim, line the clips up with the holes in the tailgate, push on the trim until the clips snap into place.

Step 10 of the revised instructions should be changed to read something more like:

Place the clips into the top trim, line the clips up with the holes in the tailgate, push on the trim until the clips snap into place.
Agreed, Ralph. I submit the change to them.

Agreed, Ralph. I submit the change to them.

I actually did mine differently, I left the click in the tailgate, then offset the trim and slid it over. Seemed to work OK for me.

I actually did mine differently, I left the click in the tailgate, then offset the trim and slid it over. Seemed to work OK for me.
That's the method ONDLINKS and I used and was also successful. Obviously either method will work. Just depends on what you find easiest.

That's the method ONDLINKS and I used and was also successful. Obviously either method will work. Just depends on what you find easiest.

Seemed a little more forgiving that way.

Thanks again for arranging the buy.

I just looked in the Ridgeline service manual. It says,
" Before reinstalling the top trim, install the upper clips on the trim. Hold the trim up, and fit all the upper clips into the holes in the tailgate, then push on the trim until the clips snap into place."

I actually did mine differently, I left the click in the tailgate, then offset the trim and slid it over. Seemed to work OK for me.

That's the method ONDLINKS and I used and was also successful. Obviously either method will work. Just depends on what you find easiest.

I left the clips in the tailgate during the installation of the lock. When buttoning the tailgate up, I tried the same method the first time...Only a few clips caught. Remembering reading posts from others having trouble sliding the top trim on, per the instructions, I decided to try putting the clips on the top trim. Most of the clips fit VERY tight into the slots on the top trim and had to use a screwdriver to force some of them in place. I don't think mine would have ever been tight on all the clips by sliding it over the clips in the tailgate. This method by far was much easier for me, and is also how the Service manual describes the reinstallation of the taligate top trim.

Installed my silver Pop N Lock today and it took about 45 minutes. Install all the clips on the cap and it just snaps on very easily as was suggested. This should be part of the instructions. They should also be corrected to say hold the crank link (step 8) with a pair of needle nose pliers. The shaft is round and you can't hold it with a crescent wrench. I added a bit of grease to the parts where they rub together. Thanks to Joe for his hard work and all of those with suggestions. This is a GREAT addition to keep things secure. Eric :)

I just got done installing my lock. It doesn't get much easier than this Pop & Lock. Thanks again Joe!

As for the tailgate cap, I tried the way the instructions say to reinstall it one time, and I can see what Tom meant. This was going to be a hassle getting all the clips locked in place. So, I took all the clips out of the tailgate and slid them in the spaces in the cap, lined the holes up and popped it right on.

Edit: I just looked in the Ridgeline service manual. It says,

" Before reinstalling the top trim, install the upper clips on the trim. Hold the trim up, and fit all the upper clips into the holes in the tailgate, then push on the trim until the clips snap into place."

Hope this helps.

Ahhh, RRIDER....sure wish I'd seen your suggestion when I was installing my P&L. Would have saved me lots of time and cussing! Thanks for posting this tip!

I installed my lock today and it only took about 45 minutes. It wasn't to diifficult but as many have said in this thread, the instructions are wrong in several places.

In Step 1, I have 18 clips not 16.

In Step 2, my bolts were 10mm not 6mm and they have washers on them that won't allow them to back on. I put them in the vice and pounded the screws out of the washers. This kind of messed up the threads but I was still able to use them. No big...

In Step 7, pictures on this thread we're really helpful. I believe the instructions show the piece upside down. The pictures here saved the day - really! Thanks for that.

And of course the missing instructions where you put the trim piece back on. As mentioned here - placing the 16 clips (18 in my case - I must be special) into the trim piece, closing the tail gate, sitting the trim into place making sure everything lines up and then popping it carefully with my fist. Piece of cake - this worked very easily for me. (plus I got to hit something)

Thanks everyone for your help and pictures. Thanks Pizza man for your hard work in setting this group buy up. It looks great!

Bruce, it appears not everyone has the washers. Mine did not. Others have found you can swap the bolts from the bolt link with those used by the crank link.

Enjoy your lock! :)

Installed mine this evening-no real issues except when securing the crank link to the lock shaft--screw did not really tighten (lock shaft is plastic). Maybe I overtightened but I don't think so. It seemed to work fine but I decided to put in a slightly larger diameter screw that snugged up better.
I had an advantage with this as I had installed a Dynolock a couple years ago and have had the tailgate apart several times. The reason I wanted this lock was that I had reliability issues with the Dynolock and was lucky that it was in an unlocked state when they arose. Once, a wire connector separated where the connector was attached to the wire--I replaced and soldered all after that. More recently, it just started working intermittently. I can't find a reason so I disconnected it. The electrical actuator was showing some wear (the rubber boot on it had ripped and disintegrated).
Even for this lock, I don't trust it--I'm worried that the lock bezel will strip out where connected to the crank link. I decided to take a page from Chris Ms installation of his lock and tied a string to the end of the bolt linkage and routed the other end to the right side of the tailgate where I can snag it if the lock fails in the locked position. Then a simple pull of the string will pull the bolt linkage to the unlocked position. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I've almost been caught twice with failing locks and this seems like good insurance. I'm not sure how you can take the tailgate apart in the closed position to override the lock.

I know the group buy is over. HOwever, where is everyone getting their silver pop n locks, who has the best price? Thanks.

I know the group buy is over. HOwever, where is everyone getting their silver pop n locks, who has the best price? Thanks.

From the group buy... Check eBay...

One big concern I've had from the beginning is that you could forget the P'nL is locked and pull too hard on the handle to open the tailgate....resulting in a broken lock. Don't know if this could actually happen or not. Maybe the lock is strong enough that it would hold even under extreme pressure. But I do try to always look and see if it's locked before trying to open it. No need to apply too much pressure unnecessarily. If it doesn't open very easily, TRY THE LOCK.

Overall, I couldn't be happier with the P'n L. Looks factory made, and works great. Everyone I've shown it to thought it was OEM. Once again....thanks, Joe.

Overall, I couldn't be happier with the P'n L. Looks factory made, and works great. Everyone I've shown it to thought it was OEM. Once again....thanks, Joe.

Me too. I don't use it much, but in not so great neighbourhoods, I make sure I do. Combine it with the glove box trunk lock, of course. Anything to slow down thieves.

I just installed a pop & lock. And the photos were an immense help!!! Thanks so much.

Only problem I had was getting the key to turn the lock after installation. After soaking in silicone spray to loosen it up and putting the tailgate back together, I read the last sentence in step 5: "Back off the bolts if the lock doesn't turn freely..."

In the Army they used to drill it in: RTGDP! Someday I will learn.

I just installed a pop & lock. And the photos were an immense help!!! Thanks so much.

Only problem I had was getting the key to turn the lock after installation. After soaking in silicone spray to loosen it up and putting the tailgate back together, I read the last sentence in step 5: "Back off the bolts if the lock does't turn freely..."

In the Army they used to drill it in: GTGDP! Someday I will learn.
Good luck with the Pop & Lock, brooktondale. May I ask what the going price is?

$78.95 from AutoAnything. Free Shipping. As of January 6, 2009.

$78.95 from AutoAnything. Free Shipping. As of January 6, 2009.
Wow! :eek: I know P&L upped their prices back in September, but that's way higher than the price I was quoted by them. No wonder you got free shipping.

If I was to run another Group Buy and assuming there has been no price increase since Sept '08, the cost would be $55, shipped. That also assumes the Group Buy would be for over 50 units. The original Group Buy was around $42, shipped.

Thanks, brooktondale. Maybe this information will spur on another Group Buy. :)

I would definitly purchase a pop and lock. You can put me on the list. That is not a bad price at all. I am about to purchase a Bak flip in the next few weeks as a late X-mas gift.

I am about to purchase a Bak flip in the next few weeks as a late X-mas gift.
Good choice in covers, John. I'm waiting for T Mac to give the go-ahead on another group buy. If I get his blessing, I'll post another interest thread.

Stay tuned. :)

Good choice in covers, John. I'm waiting for T Mac to give the go-ahead on another group buy. If I get his blessing, I'll post another interest thread.

Stay tuned. :)

Thanks Joe it took me a long and hard time to decide on a cover. Melissa says I shop like a women when I look for stuff for the Ridge. LOL :D

I bought a Pop & Lock for my Ridgeline from www.streetsideauto.com out of Kansas City, Kansas. It was $62.03 with free Fed Ex ground shipping and they shipped it the same day. I got it today and installed it in a little over an hour. It works and looks great.

I also had a bit of a struggle with the tailgate cap. I tried to put it back on the reverse of the way it came off, but I couldn't get all the clips to slide in properly. So I removed all the clips from the gate and slid them on to the cap with the help of a pair of pliers. I was then able to line up the clips with the holes in the gate and pop them in place.

My G2 BakFlip cover is on its way. I bought it on ebay from Fast Lane USA Store (Elkhart, Indiana) on a "Buy it Now" auction for $694.99 including free freight. They had great reviews, so I trust everything will arrive as promised. I'm anxious to do that install now.

No surprise that the PnL has gone up since Joe got us the group buy. Interesting to see that folks are paying about twice what we paid with the initial group buy. One again, thanks Joe! I couldn't be more pleased with my PnL.

When and where were these $31 shipped?

When and where were these $31 shipped?
TCape is referring to another member who paid $79 shipped. The group buy was selling them for about $42 each shipped. Just a little more than half of that price.

The group buy happened before you joined the ROC. :(

Got ya. I picked one up a couple months ago from an ebay seller who was selling the black ones for right at or under $50 shipped. I then painted it silver to mach my RTL.

QUESTION.. Are there any other locking tail gate latches out there to buy? or is Popn'lock the best one to get?

Jayman,

Thanks for the tip on where you purchased the Pop N Lock. Just to let other Ridgeline owners know...The PL6000 is the black finish:

http://www.streetsideauto.com

This coupon will give 5% off a purchase:

Coupon Code: rtmnt
exp: 12/31/2010

Now..Hopefully I will not have any install issues...when my Pop N Lock arrives. This thread will definitely be used as a guide!

how hard are they to install?? i have taken a door completely apart and back together is it anything like that or is it harder?

how hard are they to install?? i have taken a door completely apart and back together is it anything like that or is it harder?
Easy rak, very easy!

Easy rak, very easy!

i guess i will try it, my friend installed roof racks running boards and crap on his tacoma maybe he can help with this

the only part im really concerned about is taking the cover panel off, so what i just hit that top part with the hammer to take it off then unscrew it and it will come off like the interior door panel??

The installation links I originally posted in this thread seems to have disappeared. No idea why. The installation pics sure helpful anyone attempting to install the PnL. If anyone has the original installation pics, please post them. They'll be very helpful to anyone trying to intall the PnL.

Re-installing the tailgate cap was by far the biggest problem I had with the PnL installation. I came very close to screwing up my tailgate cap because I didn't watch carefully when I took it off. If anyone can post pics and instructions about doing this, I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated.

Just a note....I've had my PnL for months now, and I couldn't be more pleased with it. It looks like it came from the factory, and it has worked perfectly since I installed it.

Thanks to everyone here....I was able to have a successful Pop & Lock install. The pictures were a great help with seeing where the parts go.

I highly suggest using WD40 to make the Pop & Lock parts move smoother...when turning from lock to unlock.

Also becareful of over tighting!!

Just like other Ridge owners that added the Pop & Lock...I was worried of breaking the clips. Putting the clips in the top trim before installing on the of tailgate seem the most logic. I was able to close the deal with the use of my rubber mallet :D.

It really is an easy install....the hardest part was pulling the trim off the tailgate.

Now....Just have to find a good deal on the Bakflip HD.

bizz,
did you use the black pop and lock on your truck. How does it look. I have a nimbus too but wasn't too sure how it was going to look. Can you post a pic?

Ygu12,

I did use the black Pop N Lock. It looks like the lock was an oem install on the truck. I was very impressed when the job was complete. I will post a picture this evening to show how the black Pop N Lock blends with the nimbus grey.

I had a silver Ridgeline and I bought the black pop n lock and painted it to match. It is plastic so the paint isnt a 100% match, probably about 90%.

Turned out pretty good. Can you find it? :)

My RL is Steel Blue. I also used a black P&L. With all the other black parts on the rear of the truck I think the black lock blends nicely.

bizz, it looks great, I can't wait to do mine now. I do like the way the nimbus looks with the black accessories, I am very happy with my color choice. If I ever get around to washing it, I have to post some pics of it.

The reason I painted the lock was as follows:

Putting a single black object such as the pop n lock right in the middle of the tailgate with no other black objects on the tailgate seemed to me like it would stick out like a terd in a punch bowl. JMO! :)

The nice thing about the Pop 'n Lock is that it looks like OEM, no matter what color you choose. I think you could put a silver one on a blue truck and most folks would still think it's OEM. Nice idea to paint it...even it's just "close" to your truck color. I got a black one for my black truck, and it's looks like it came from the factory. It's sure been great so far. Biggest problem I had with it was getting the tailgate top back on right. For those contemplating the PnL, be SURE you see how this is done. It's actually pretty simple, but very easy to screw up.

bizz, it looks great, I can't wait to do mine now. I do like the way the nimbus looks with the black accessories, I am very happy with my color choice. If I ever get around to washing it, I have to post some pics of it.

Thanks!! I believe you will be happy with the install. Be sure to post some pics!

just did mine yesterday...got the silver pop & lock and it matches the truck very well. instructions were very good and the install was pretty easy. I ended up sizing down the drill bit slightly for the larger hole, which worked well.

overall, the pop & lock looks good, installs relatively easy and functions very well. I'm a happy customer.

First of all, THANKS to all for info given on this thread and many others. I just recently joined ROC even though I've had mine since April '06. I did a lot of research in the forums about the Bak Flip G2 cover and was quite impressed with all of the information I found. It helped me make a rock solid decision to go with the Bak Flip G2. It was very easy to install and looks awesome!! Then of course I got a pop & lock and just finished the install. Like many others have said----real easy to install, but the tailgate cap is a son of a mother to get back on just right. :act064: BIG thanks to Pizza Man for your posts with the great picture. ROC on!!

How far toward the passenger side does the tailgate top trim need to be moved to disengage from its retaining tabs?

Thanks,
Kip

How far toward the passenger side does the tailgate top trim need to be moved to disengage from its retaining tabs?

Thanks,
Kip

The top trim doesn't need to go very much..maybe a half inch. Just tap it with a rubber mallet, you'll feel it release from the clips. When reinstalling, the easiest way is to take all of the clips out of the tailgate, and put them on the top trim, align the clips with the holes in the tailgate and they pop right in.

The top trim doesn't need to go very much..maybe a half inch. Just tap it with a rubber mallet, you'll feel it release from the clips. When reinstalling, the easiest way is to take all of the clips out of the tailgate, and put them on the top trim, align the clips with the holes in the tailgate and they pop right in.

Thanks! :)


Kip

Anyone know if the P&L PL6000 will fit on a 2010? Are there any changes to the tailgate mechanism that would prevent it?

I've been looking to purchase on Realtruck.com but they only list it up to 2008 (perhaps because of the backup camera issue - which I don't have.)

Also, for those of you that have installed it, is there a lot of drilling involved, and where do you drill? I haven't managed to locate installation instructions yet, but I'll wade around here a bit more to see if I can uncover the answer. :act062:

Anyone know if the P&L PL6000 will fit on a 2010? Are there any changes to the tailgate mechanism that would prevent it?

I've been looking to purchase on Realtruck.com but they only list it up to 2008 (perhaps because of the backup camera issue - which I don't have.)

Also, for those of you that have installed it, is there a lot of drilling involved, and where do you drill? I haven't managed to locate installation instructions yet, but I'll wade around here a bit more to see if I can uncover the answer. :act062:

If you don't have the camera then yes the pop and lock works for all years. Even your new 2010 nothing has changed. All you do is drill 3 holes into the tailgate handle. 2 small holes for the lock to slide in and one hole a little bigger for the lock/latch mechanism to screw onto the lock cylinder. Everything else is a bolt in installation. Very simple kit, only took me about 20 mins total reading the instructions and all. Order the kit, it comes with directions and drill bit sizes. The 2008 you found is the same as your 2010.

If you don't have the camera then yes the pop and lock works for all years. Even your new 2010 nothing has changed. All you do is drill 3 holes into the tailgate handle. 2 small holes for the lock to slide in and one hole a little bigger for the lock/latch mechanism to screw onto the lock cylinder. Everything else is a bolt in installation. Very simple kit, only took me about 20 mins total reading the instructions and all. Order the kit, it comes with directions and drill bit sizes. The 2008 you found is the same as your 2010.

Thanks for your help. That's great news. I'm going to order the P&L so that I can lock my tailgate. I'm getting a cover soon so that will make things in my bed a bit more secure. :act030:

Thanks for your help. That's great news. I'm going to order the P&L so that I can lock my tailgate. I'm getting a cover soon so that will make things in my bed a bit more secure. :act030:

bcdad,
Pizza Man may have some leftover PNL kits from the last GB. I suggest you PM him for availability. It's a good price!

I wanted to try and install my pop & lock this weekend, but I first wanted to print out the instructions we have on the forums. However, I keep getting error messages when I click on the links at the beginning of this post, anyone else having this problem?

I wanted to try and install my pop & lock this weekend, but I first wanted to print out the instructions we have on the forums. However, I keep getting error messages when I click on the links at the beginning of this post, anyone else having this problem?
Not sure if this is the one listed above, this one is by Tcape

PNL Installation (http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23262)

Last Saturday the temperature in Connecticut went over 40 degrees. It was time to install my PNL. It went very well. Cap off in moments, put little tabs back on before they were lost. All parts went as plans said except, when I put the screw in the back of the cylinder it striped out immediately. Almost like the size was to small. It was hand tightened and then very gently.

Lucky for me I had a complete set of sheet metal screws and found one in no time. Then when I snugged the screw down the lock was hard to operate. After some trial I discovered the lock linkage needed a slight twist. That done it worked great.

Reassembly a piece of cake.

Thanks Pizza Man for the GB.

Just installed mine yesterday! Works and looks great! Thanks again to Joe for running the group buy, and it was a pleasure meeting you!

Only problem I had was same as condoman and had to find a bigger screw for the back of the cylinder, the first one was too skinny!

It appears P&L changed the lockset from the original. I will let them know about the complaints.

Mine was installed about 1 1/2 years ago and still works like a charm. I did not have any screw issues.

I've had my PnL for well over a year, and it still works great. Thanks again, Joe (Pizza Man).

My only issue was the removal and reattachment of the tailgate cap. I did a pretty good job of taking it off, but did a crummy job putting it back on. I didn't look closely enough at how it came off, so I tried to force it back on...and didn't have it fitting right. It never did fit right after that, but the dealer was kind enought to put it back on right for me at my 15k service. Be careful with this. Pay close attention on how it comes off....and how it goes back on.

But I couldn't be more pleased with the Pop n Lock. Looks like OEM, works like OEM.
Tom

I had no problem at all with the tailgate cap. After reading this thread I put the clips on the cap first then just popped it back on. However the direction say I was supposed to have 20 white clips and i only had 14?????

Bad Karma, installed new Pop&Lock a couple of weeks ago and everything went fine. When I removed my tailgate trim it only had 9 clips holding it on. No problem just put it back on as it was. Worked great! Went to lock tailgate last week and no joy! Thought maybe I messed up install, but before I removed everything again I went to my local Honda dealer and ordered enough clips for a complete set.

Today, once I got the panel removed I found the latch assembly broken away from lock. Plastic stem on lock was broken. So now I have a call into pop&lock to see if there are replacements parts or do I have to buy a whole new lock?

Anyone else have a problem with lock or was it operator/installer error? :act060:

Can you post a photo of the install, Hooty? I'd like to see how you installed the Crank Link onto the lock stem.

I'll be calling them tomorrow about this and the screw issue some have reported.

Well I didn't take a photo of the install and now I've taken the screw out of the broken stem area and there it's in 4 pieces. Three I have found 4th must be in tailgate. The squared area and one side remained with the screw and the main stem section I've taken out of the lock to see if it can be replaced.

I can take a photo of the metal parts attached to jam the latch, if that is what you had in mind and will help troubleshoot my problem.

And Pizza Man thanks for your help, still like all the group buys you did for us.

Becky, Pop & Lock just informed me they are sending you a totally new replacement unit.

You did good! :act039:

I think I need to thank you for your support!

So Thanks Joe:act035:

I'll keep everyone updated when I get lock in and installed.

Received the replacement lock from PopnLock and installed it today. I've gotten real good at tailgate trim and panel removal. Hope this it the last time for awhile.

Attached photos of completed install. I only used the lock from the replacement set. Everything else is from the original install. I'm pretty sure everything is correct, but if something doesn't look right let me know.

From the past post I noticed some others had washers that would not work. I trimmed the washers to fit (see photos). Sorry for the blurry washer photo. Hope this helps.

Becky, expand the photo in my signature. It looks to me like you lost the spring on the bolt linkage.

Thanks Joe for looking the photos over. I couldn't tell from blowing up original photo either. I did take another photo during the install that better shows that area of the lock.

The spring is there and I checked the lock again, I can feel the tension.

Hello everyone, I am a new Ridgeline owner and new member of ROC. After reading the posts here and going through reviews on the internet, I am interested in buying a P&L, then eventually a cover (probably a Bakflip G2). Whats a good price on the locks? are there any still available from the last group buy?

Hello everyone, I am a new Ridgeline owner and new member of ROC. After reading the posts here and going through reviews on the internet, I am interested in buying a P&L, then eventually a cover (probably a Bakflip G2). Whats a good price on the locks? are there any still available from the last group buy?


me too...:act024:

The Group Buy is over, nothing is available.

found a great price on Amazon for $54....

thanks Skyrunner, I'll check it out.

I'll check it out.
Better hurry, supply (2) is limited.

Finally got around to installing my Pop & Lock form the group buy. Thanks for the instruction and Pics from the contributing ROC members. I thought I did sometihing wrong because it only took me about 40 minutes to install including taking the cap of to putting the cap back on.

Did any one find that the screw that holds the turning mechanism on, a little loose or stripped like?

You can swap bracket bolts with washers with the bolts that hold on the whole OEM assembly if the washers do not fit right. (Per Pop & Lock recommendations).

I found that if you reinstall the push tabs on the trim piece first and then re-align with the holes on the tail gate, just push with hand pressure. Took minutes.

Not sure I need to reply here, but after reading the posts in this thread, thought I needed to say that I've had my Pop 'N Lock for almost two years, and I couldn't be more pleased. Still works perfectly. Once again, thanks to Joe (Pizza Man) for the original group buy. One of the best purchases I've made for my Ridgeline.

Finally got around to installing my Pop & Lock form the group buy. Thanks for the instruction and Pics from the contributing ROC members. I thought I did sometihing wrong because it only took me about 40 minutes to install including taking the cap of to putting the cap back on.

Did any one find that the screw that holds the turning mechanism on, a little loose or stripped like?

You can swap bracket bolts with washers with the bolts that hold on the whole OEM assembly if the washers do not fit right. (Per Pop & Lock recommendations).

I found that if you reinstall the push tabs on the trim piece first and then re-align with the holes on the tail gate, just push with hand pressure. Took minutes.

Bumping for the loose screw on lock mechanism!

Bumping for the loose screw on lock mechanism!
Matt, that problem was relayed to P&L awhile ago. You can call P&L explain you're just now installing your lock purchased during the ROC Group Buy and would like a replacement. When you call, ask for Maureen. She's the owner's wife and the person I worked with to arrange the Group Buy.

Matt, that problem was relayed to P&L awhile ago. You can call P&L explain you're just now installing your lock purchased during the ROC Group Buy and would like a replacement. When you call, ask for Maureen. She's the owner's wife and the person I worked with to arrange the Group Buy.

Thanks Pizza Man! I'll try to find the number and give Her a call.

Talked to Maureen today, she wasn't aware of the problem with the locking cylinder but she might send me a new one. She also forward my call to tech support and the person was aware of the problem.

> He suggested NOT to put a larger screw in because it might break the plastic head of the mechanism.
> His fix is to put silicon caulk in the screw hole with a tooth pick and on the screw thread and just let it dry, it should hold. He said a wood screw and plastic shouldn't really work together.

Now I have to remove that damn trim piece again! Uuuuuugh!

*** Update: I ended up putting a slightly larger screw in while also using a locking washer for the lock cylinder. I tried the string trick but it kept jamming the center release some how. So, I ended up taking apart my tail gate 3 times. I'm going to be confident that the lock will work without fail for years. Thanks again for all the input on the post.

Dumb question guys - does the Pop and Lock also lock the side opening feature of the tailgate?

Thanks in Advance.

Dumb question guys - does the Pop and Lock also lock the side opening feature of the tailgate?

Thanks in Advance.

If you mean the swing mode, then yes. Pop-n-Lock jams the locking mechanism, which controls both tail gate modes of operation.

Thanks Matt.

Man, this is a great forum.

I'm in the process of ordering a PNL and wondering about what color (black or white) would be better for me to order if I want to repaint the color of my truck (dark cherry pearl). I'm thinking black might be easier, but don't know. Have any of you guys done this?

Thanks!

I'm in the process of ordering a PNL and wondering about what color (black or white) would be better for me to order if I want to repaint the color of my truck (dark cherry pearl). I'm thinking black might be easier, but don't know. Have any of you guys done this?

Thanks!

I have dark cherry and a black Pop & Lock. It might look more 'factory' if painted the same color, but I think it is just fine black also.

I do have my bug deflector (Stampede, clear) painted on the backside with factory DCP color, and that was well worth it IMO.

Just as an FYI, I talked to the folks in Canada about availability for the
PL-6010 for my 2010 RTL and they told me that the inventor had recently passed away. Since he held all the patents, there was no way to tell what the family (estate) was going to do however they were going to meet with the principals sometime in September. I have no reason to doubt the validity of what I was told. Soooooooo, I picked up a Dynolock from USA Truck and it works like a champ. Hardest part was routing the wire from the tailgate to the center of the cabin.
Duckogram

I just finished a Pop & Lock installation on my '09 Ridgeline. It took about 45 minutes. It works great.

Note - put the clips in the trim when you put the trim back on the door - it took about 3 seconds.

Also, the 3/8's screw is way too small for the plastic locking mechanism - I used a fatter, longer screw in its place. This worked perfectly.

Tomorrow I install my Extang Trifecta. Can't wait.

I just finished a Pop & Lock installation on my '09 Ridgeline. It took about 45 minutes. It works great.

Note - put the clips in the trim when you put the trim back on the door - it took about 3 seconds.

Also, the 3/8's screw is way too small for the plastic locking mechanism - I used a fatter, longer screw in its place. This worked perfectly.

Tomorrow I install my Extang Trifecta. Can't wait.

I've recently installed both, but in the opposite sequence. :)

I've recently installed both, but in the opposite sequence. :)

Oh, oh...

I hope I'm not missing something here.

Oh, oh...

I hope I'm not missing something here.

He means that he installed the Extang Trifecta then the Pop-n-Lock. I too used a fatter screw for the locking tumbler. You're good to go.

He means that he installed the Extang Trifecta then the Pop-n-Lock. I too used a fatter screw for the locking tumbler. You're good to go.

Exactly, I had to do the fatter screw thing too.

I just finished a Pop & Lock installation on my '09 Ridgeline. It took about 45 minutes. It works great.

Note - put the clips in the trim when you put the trim back on the door - it took about 3 seconds.

Also, the 3/8's screw is way too small for the plastic locking mechanism - I used a fatter, longer screw in its place. This worked perfectly.

Tomorrow I install my Extang Trifecta. Can't wait.

What is an Extang Trifecta? :act018:

What is an Extang Trifecta? :act018:

Google much? :)

What is an Extang Trifecta? :act018:

http://extang.com/docs/trifecta.html:cool:

http://extang.com/docs/trifecta.html:cool:

Thank You !