Front Blinker Lights "HELP PLEASE"

ridgeline2006
06-09-2009, 10:50 AM
Well I have been fighting with this problem for over 2 years now and my blinker lights are the only lights on my truck that have not been changed to LED's. I have replaced all bulbs internal and external to LED's except my front blinker. I am posting a picture of what I need, because the problem is that all the different LED's that I've tried will fit in the hole in the light fixture however the wedge is not long enough. Everyone who sells these bulbs will tell you that their light will work (BUT IT DON'T)

Now as you can see in the picture the wedge length on the OEM bulb is longer than any LED that I have found. Is there anyone who has successfully changed out this bulb. Please let me how you did this? 13/16 or 21mm is the length of the wedge and the width is 5/16 or 8mm. If someone has the knowledge of where to get this set of amber LED's which the number of this bulb is 3157 or 7443 I would be so grateful. I am really sure that someone out there in ROC land has done this. If you have change modified the front blinker to some type of LED and you have it working please let me know how you did this. I could use your help on this one.

schwejo
06-09-2009, 11:17 AM
Assuming you can’t just buy it, looks like with a little Yankee ingenuity it wouldn’t be too difficult to cannibalize the OEM base. You could sacrifice one of the OEM lamps and kind of breadboard it up to confirm it works as desired than maybe solder and epoxy it together afterward? With LEDs at least you have pretty much a permanent replacement.

rakapur
06-09-2009, 11:28 AM
i read that you should not use LEDs up front because the heat from the headlights can melt the LED
i replaced mine with chrome bulbs http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-07-HONDA-RIDGELINE-CHROME-AMBER-F-TURN-SIGNAL-BULB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33717QQihZ016QQite mZ260420797175QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW and it gives the truck a nice sporty look up front (i wish i could take off that damn orange reflector though)

schwejo
06-09-2009, 11:37 AM
i read that you should not use LEDs up front because the heat from the headlights can melt the LED


Hm? perhaps that explains the extended base to begin with so the contacts get cooked a little less.

RidgeLI
06-09-2009, 11:40 AM
Can you pull the grey plastic off of the other bulb, and will the new led fit into it? It appears to look like possibly you can, it looks like it does extend the bulb from the pic, hopefully it may work...

RidgeLI

Lex Luthor
06-09-2009, 11:48 AM
I can feel your pain, Tony. I too have been searching for the same bulbs. Togeher, Tony and I have ordered bulbs from two or three different vendors. If there is a bulb out there that will fit and work safely, I want it. These bulbs are pain in the butt to change anyway. I have contacted SUPERBRIGHT LED'S, V-LED'S, USHDSTORE-Ebay, and SUPERLUMINATION. Will the ROC professionals chime in?

Thanks,

Lex Luthor

AKA - :DJimmy Becnel

ridgeline2006
06-09-2009, 11:49 AM
OK I guess I should be concerned about the LEDs because of the HID headlight that I am using. The heat will be greater because of them. Here is another picture of the chrome light that Lex Luthor and I worked on last week.
( I am sorry for my dirty finger but I was really into it at the time) If the lights are 5/16 wide all the way to the base of the LEDs it might work. Look at the wedge of the chrome light this light was in Jimmy's truck and they fit. Maybe I need to find LEDs that are thin to the base not like the LED light in the picture. The base get wide quickly on all of the ones that I used.

xridgelinex
06-09-2009, 05:30 PM
This is what's messing you guys up....The front and rear turn signal bulbs are NOT the same bulb type...

For the front turn signal bulbs the 3457 can be replaced with a 3157 NOT the 7443 that you have pictured...

It is the rear turn signals bulbs that use a 7440 that you can stick that 7443 bulb you have in the picture...

Order a 3157... Try it.... If it does not fit return it (But it should fit without issue).... http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Parking-Light-LED/Amber-LED/2-AMBER-3157-V-LEDS-7W-p7114829.html

or

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Parking-Light-LED/Amber-LED/2-AMBER-3157-V-LEDS-M-p4810370.html

ridgeline2006
06-10-2009, 10:53 AM
This is what's messing you guys up....The front and rear turn signal bulbs are NOT the same bulb type...

For the front turn signal bulbs the 3457 can be replaced with a 3157 NOT the 7443 that you have pictured...

It is the rear turn signals bulbs that use a 7440 that you can stick that 7443 bulb you have in the picture...

Order a 3157... Try it.... If it does not fit return it (But it should fit without issue).... http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Parking-Light-LED/Amber-LED/2-AMBER-3157-V-LEDS-7W-p7114829.html

or

http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Parking-Light-LED/Amber-LED/2-AMBER-3157-V-LEDS-M-p4810370.html

Do you know of anyone that has remove the amber reflector from inside the front parking light area

xridgelinex
06-10-2009, 11:41 AM
Do you know of anyone that has remove the amber reflector from inside the front parking light area

Why would you want to do that?

ridgeline2006
06-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Why would you want to do that?

I don't want to do this. I just wanted to know because replacing the light with a led that generates white light as a running light and then amber when one would use the blinker. I thought that Keith K757 removed his not sure. Well we are getting ready to order the light that you suggested. It might work if the width of the light stays the same. It measured out to 5/16 so I think it will work. Thanks for all you help.

xridgelinex
06-10-2009, 05:30 PM
In post #8....... I recommended the following that DO NOT have the change over from white to amber... The 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS 7W HIGH POWER 20 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156 http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p7114829.html

or the 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS M-SMT 27 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p4810370.html

I would spend the extra $25 and purchase the first set, the 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS 7W HIGH POWER 20 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156 http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p7114829.html, which would be your brightest choice...

V-LEDS does make a dual color type that you mentioned seeing... The
TYPE 2 DUAL COLOR CHANGING HID 6K WHITE/AMBER 60 M-SMT TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3157 3157NA 3357 3457 4157... located here
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-CHANGING-p5846227.html

These are not that much more expensive and even with the light housing reflector it should not create a yellow hue like the yellow bulb does.

ridgeline2006
06-10-2009, 06:30 PM
In post #8....... I recommended the following that DO NOT have the change over from white to amber... The 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS 7W HIGH POWER 20 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156 http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p7114829.html

or the 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS M-SMT 27 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p4810370.html

I would spend the extra $25 and purchase the first set, the 2 AMBER 3157 V-LEDS 7W HIGH POWER 20 LED TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3156 http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/P...-p7114829.html, which would be your brightest choice...

V-LEDS does make a dual color type that you mentioned seeing... The
TYPE 2 DUAL COLOR CHANGING HID 6K WHITE/AMBER 60 M-SMT TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3157 3157NA 3357 3457 4157... located here
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-CHANGING-p5846227.html

These are not that much more expensive and even with the light housing reflector it should not create a yellow hue like the yellow bulb does.

Thanks We went with your suggestion the 7 watt 3157. They are ordered and now we wait. I do thank you for all you suggestions. I do know the other leds this one was the last one and it sure looks like the right one.....

rakapur
06-10-2009, 06:30 PM
I don't want to do this. I just wanted to know because replacing the light with a led that generates white light as a running light and then amber when one would use the blinker. I thought that Keith K757 removed his not sure. Well we are getting ready to order the light that you suggested. It might work if the width of the light stays the same. It measured out to 5/16 so I think it will work. Thanks for all you help.

i dont think he removed his, he recommended me the chrome bulbs and in the pic he should me his truck still had the reflector

xridgelinex
06-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Thanks We went with your suggestion the 7 watt 3157. They are ordered and now we wait. I do thank you for all you suggestions. I do know the other leds this one was the last one and it sure looks like the right one.....

Good choice... ;)...

Lex Luthor
06-10-2009, 10:05 PM
Tony and I would like to give a SHOUT OUT of appreciation to XRIDGELINEX. We took your advice and today I ordered two pairs of V-LED 3157_20A LED bulbs. Hopefully, this will complete the last set of LED replacement bulbs for our RIDGELINES. We will post pictures of the finished install upon arrival. I promise that Tony will wash his hands before we take any pictures.

Lex Luthor:D

ridgeline2006
06-26-2009, 08:32 PM
Ok well we received the 3157 bulbs for the front blinkers from v-leds and installed them. They fit just fine, however here is the problem. The blinker works just fine but the running lights they blow the 15 amp fuse every time. We talk to the man who designed the lights on the phone today and this is what he had to say. Just like his Toyota Tundra he feels that the Ridgeline will take what he refers to as a "SWACK" bulb which will handle the way the wiring is done on the ridgeline when you turn on the running lights. I don't know anything about SWACK bulbs so if there is anyone that has used this type of bulbs and has installed a set on the RL please either PM me or post something here. We have a set of these SWACK bulb on the way so I will keep everyone posted.

xridgelinex
06-26-2009, 08:49 PM
Ok well we received the 3157 bulbs for the front blinkers from v-leds and installed them. They fit just fine, however here is the problem. The blinker works just fine but the running lights they blow the 15 amp fuse every time. We talk to the man who designed the lights on the phone today and this is what he had to say. Just like his Toyota Tundra he feels that the Ridgeline will take what he refers to as a "SWACK" bulb which will handle the way the wiring is done on the ridgeline when you turn on the running lights. I don't know anything about SWACK bulbs so if there is anyone that has used this type of bulbs and has installed a set on the RL please either PM me or post something here. We have a set of these SWACK bulb on the way so I will keep everyone posted.

3 Leads.... + High, + Low and a seperate lead for the ground... I replied to an email from Lex and I thought maybe it was blowing because they sent you a swack bulb... From what I can remember from the pictures, the RL bulb is not a swack type... But I could be wrong. If you could post a picture of the very end of the OEM bulb I could tell you if it is a swack....

ridgeline2006
06-27-2009, 07:25 AM
3 Leads.... + High, + Low and a seperate lead for the ground... I replied to an email from Lex and I thought maybe it was blowing because they sent you a swack bulb... From what I can remember from the pictures, the RL bulb is not a swack type... But I could be wrong. If you could post a picture of the very end of the OEM bulb I could tell you if it is a swack....

I will send these, I will have Jimmy take pictures of the bottom of the OEM and send them. Here is what I have now

ridgeline2006
06-28-2009, 10:35 AM
3 Leads.... + High, + Low and a seperate lead for the ground... I replied to an email from Lex and I thought maybe it was blowing because they sent you a swack bulb... From what I can remember from the pictures, the RL bulb is not a swack type... But I could be wrong. If you could post a picture of the very end of the OEM bulb I could tell you if it is a swack....

Here are the pictures you requested.

BlueZero
06-28-2009, 08:55 PM
V-LEDS does make a dual color type that you mentioned seeing... The TYPE 2 DUAL COLOR CHANGING HID 6K WHITE/AMBER 60 M-SMT TURN SIGNAL BULBS 3157 3157NA 3357 3457 4157... located here
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-CHANGING-p5846227.html

Just ordered a set! I've had my eye on them for a while now. Hope they work. :D

xridgelinex
06-29-2009, 08:43 AM
Here are the pictures you requested.



That does not look like a swack type bulb.... There is one too many leads on that bulb. It may be hidden in the honda wiring at this point.... We will soon see...

xridgelinex
06-29-2009, 08:54 AM
Just ordered a set! I've had my eye on them for a while now. Hope they work. :D

I sent you an important pm... Read post #17...

BlueZero
06-29-2009, 06:13 PM
I sent you an important pm... Read post #17...

Thanks much!

Shoot! I was thinking the problem was for the non color changing bulb. I emailed v-led's, so I'll see what they say. It might not hurt to have another test subject with the bulb too.

Lex Luthor
06-29-2009, 09:37 PM
Tony and I have been in contact with the owner of V-LEDS and he is sending us each a pair of SACK bulbs that are dual function. These SACK bulbs are 5,000K with a Blue Tint in Park and they Blink amber.


http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/SWACK-TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-p6204097.html

We have changed all the other OEM bulbs with success. Hopefully, these will work. We will update with a post when they come in.

xridgelinex hooked Tony and I up with V-LEDS. Troy was the first one to use LEDS from V-LEDS and they are well made and VERY BRIGHT!



Thanks,

Lex Luthor:D

xridgelinex
06-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Tony and I have been in contact with the owner of V-LEDS and he is sending us each a pair of SACK bulbs that are dual function. These SACK bulbs are 5,000K with a Blue Tint in Park and they Blink amber.


http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/SWACK-TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-p6204097.html

We have changed all the other OEM bulbs with success. Hopefully, these will work. We will update with a post when they come in.

xridgelinex hooked Tony and I up with V-LEDS. Troy was the first one to use LEDS from V-LEDS and they are well made and VERY BRIGHT!



Thanks,

Lex Luthor:D

Actually Twintym (Dan) introduced me to them.... But on the ROC there is a post from someone that used them a couple of years ago.... I only can take credit from using many of their products and putting together a write up of my experience.

djeaux
06-29-2009, 11:08 PM
Do you know of anyone that has remove the amber reflector from inside the front parking light area

I don't know of anybody who's done this mod for Ridgelines, but I recall seeing it on a Honda Accord forum a couple of years ago. It makes the front lights look totally silver when used with LED or silver bulbs. I will see if I have it bookmarked, but from what I remember, it is not a mod for the faint of heart (or somebody who doesn't have a spare set of light housings). Working from memory, they heated up the front "glass" section to soften the silicone glue, pried the housing apart, removed the reflector & then reglued everything back together. Definitely a lot of work with a high risk of breaking the entire housing unit. (My guess is that replacements from a junkyard are plentiful for Accords.) In other words, on a scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 14.

ridgeline2006
07-02-2009, 07:05 PM
Well Finally, We have the right lights now. Jimmy (Lex Luthor) found the lights with the help of XridgelineX after speaking with the owner of V-LED's he really felt that he had a light that would work. the item number of the bulb is "3157_60_SACK". This bulb has a running light that is bright white with a blue tint. The blinker/hazard lights are amber and it is obvious the difference in intensification. Jimmy and I put together a youtube video of how the light look in action so for those who are interest in viewing the lights and how they work, here is the link to youtube.


Note: The SACK light is the only LED replacement light that will work on the Ridgeline front blinker/running light. I have tried to install four other light that claim to be the light that would work. However they did not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW8un8LUbvU

Here is the link to v-leds http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/SWACK-TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-p7431626.html


Thanks to everyone for all the help

xridgelinex
07-02-2009, 07:54 PM
Well Finally, We have the right lights now. Jimmy (Lex Luthor) found the lights with the help of XridgelineX after speaking with the owner of V-LED's he really felt that he had a light that would work. the item number of the bulb is "3157_60_SACK". This bulb has a running light that is bright white with a blue tint. The blinker/hazard lights are amber and it is obvious the difference in intensification. Jimmy and I put together a youtube video of how the light look in action so for those who are interest in viewing the lights and how they work, here is the link to youtube.


Note: The SACK light is the only LED replacement light that will work on the Ridgeline front blinker/running light. I have tried to install four other light that claim to be the light that would work. However they did not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW8un8LUbvU

Thanks to everyone for all the help

Great video. Finally a working product. :cool:

Was it worth the long wait and many headaches?

xridgelinex
07-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Here are some links for those interested...

The 5k version http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/SWACK-TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-p7431626.html (http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/Turn-Signal-LED/White-LED/SWACK-TYPE-2-DUAL-COLOR-p7431626.html)

and

the 6K version http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/T...-p6204097.html

ridgeline2006
07-02-2009, 09:21 PM
Great video. Finally a working product. :cool:

Was it worth the long wait and many headaches?

Yes it was worth the wait. As far as the headaches Yes I guess so, I did try many lights but these work and they are very bright. Now I am finished with the lights, so now I can move to another project.

I really want the ROC guys to know that the Ridgeline takes a special type of replacement bulb for the front blinker.

Lex Luthor
07-04-2009, 09:09 AM
HAPPY 4th OF JULY: Tony and I successfully changed out the last OEM Bulbs, Front Turn Signal/Park Sylvania 3457 to a upgraded V-LED 3157_60_SACK from V-LEDS. The good news is that everything functions properly on Tony's Ridgeline, which is a 2006 RTL. My Ridgeline is a 2007 RTS and when I activate the turn signal with either the running lights on or off, the third brake light flashes just like the blinker does. It does this function using either left or right blinkers. This also happens when I put my hazard lights on. Both hazards blink and so does the third brake light. It is also brought to my attention that when I turn my blinker on, not only does the REAR AMBER lights blink but the REAR RED brake light blinks along with the REAR AMBER lights. This also happens when I turn the emergency hazzard lights on. Imagine this, when I turn my blinkers on, my third brake light flashes RED, my REAR blinkers flashes AMBER and my brake lights flash RED.:confused:
Has anybody ever had this problem? Tony and I are puzzled by this situation. We would love to resolve this issue as soon as possible. We would appreciate any help or shared wisdom from any of you. Tony is an electrical engineer and he has the electrical book for the Ridgeline and he can not find any wiring reasons that would justify this action. The wiring diagram for the turn signals does not relate to any wiring of the third brake light. If anyone has the electrical manual and may find a relationship between the third brake light and the blinker, please point this out to Tony and I.

After further review, we changed the light back to the OEM lights and while using the blinker it work fine. Now when using the hazard lights the problem comes back. After I brought the truck to Tony's house he explained that the blinker or hazard when in use still caused the 3rd brake light and brake tail light to flash however the intensity is only about 15% illuminated. In conclusion, changing back to OEM bulbs cleared the turn signal problem but not the hazard problem. With the LED's the problem is both on blinking and hazard.
ANY SUGGESTION PLEASE

Coopdman
08-25-2009, 02:20 PM
Wow, you've got a puzzler there! I wish I could help. Your posts have been a great find since I was minutes away from ordering the white/amber LEDs and found your thread. You guys saved me a headache. I'll let you know if I happen to have the same problem when I get mine in place. I'm not doing the rear set yet, so that may make a difference but I'm on a budget. One step at a time. Good luck. I'd love to hear if you got it figured out.

thanks again!

xridgelinex
08-25-2009, 02:31 PM
Wow, you've got a puzzler there! I wish I could help. Your posts have been a great find since I was minutes away from ordering the white/amber LEDs and found your thread. You guys saved me a headache. I'll let you know if I happen to have the same problem when I get mine in place. I'm not doing the rear set yet, so that may make a difference but I'm on a budget. One step at a time. Good luck. I'd love to hear if you got it figured out.

thanks again!

It was figured out a while ago.... Upon assessment, they put the 3 ohm resistors into the brake wiring and not in the turn signal wiring were it belongs...

xridgelinex
08-25-2009, 02:37 PM
Hey Jimmy, did you ever get your LED light bar connected and straighten out that brake light flasher module?

Any pics?