maybearidge 03-08-2005, 02:44 PM I feel I got burned on our last vehicle (Volvo) by paying MSRP. I really do not want to have it happen again. To all of the seasoned Honda owners....is this a normal occurence for Honda?? They seem to be able to have a large production if needed. Is this a scam?
1manparty 03-08-2005, 02:53 PM You will be able to get below MSRP, but it may be a while (6-12months??). Really depends on how much demand there is for it and of course being a smart shopper. Honda does not like to over produce cars, they will build just enough to meet demand.
BrianPowell 03-08-2005, 02:55 PM honestly with these ridgelines to buy them right now msrp is a good deal maybe a year from now they might not be. It really is based of of supply and demand right now the demand is greater than the supply, and to be honest there ar some dealers trying to get $1000-3000 over the sticker price for them which is really obsene. But I suspect that these trucks will be similar to the Pilot when it first came out at my dealership we had a waiting list 2 years long...but I dont think that the ridgeline will be that drawn out. I do have a list of Ridgelines that are listed on the board that are in the MD-DE-VA-DC area if you are interested. 2 of which I am marking down $500 which really is a heck of a deal ask anyone.
jwizard 03-08-2005, 04:57 PM Just do the math. If you wait 6 to 12 months to negotiate below list.... how many price increases may have gone thruogh in the interim.... just so you could feel good and end up possibly paying more than you would at today's list price.
LOUANDKIM 03-08-2005, 05:49 PM Check out our posting under "special member pricing on all new Ridgelines"
maybearidge 03-09-2005, 06:55 AM Thanks...but I'm in NJ
BrianPowell 03-09-2005, 08:54 AM Thats perfect if you by one from me I could deliver it to you. :)
honestly with these ridgelines to buy them right now msrp is a good deal maybe a year from now they might not be. It really is based of of supply and demand right now the demand is greater than the supply, and to be honest there ar some dealers trying to get $1000-3000 over the sticker price for them which is really obsene. But I suspect that these trucks will be similar to the Pilot when it first came out at my dealership we had a waiting list 2 years long...but I dont think that the ridgeline will be that drawn out. I do have a list of Ridgelines that are listed on the board that are in the MD-DE-VA-DC area if you are interested. 2 of which I am marking down $500 which really is a heck of a deal ask anyone.
What are the 2 you have marked down $500? Color and model? How many miles?
jvacierto 03-09-2005, 11:37 AM I agree that it'll be about a year before you can negotiate below MSRP. Judging from the experience of Element owners on the elemenownersclub.com (shout out to T Mac!), next year you'll probably be able to negotiate the price down, maybe as much as invoice.
The main thing is to stick to your guns and don't let the salesperson talk you out of the price you want to pay.
maybearidge 03-10-2005, 06:55 AM The dealer I am talking to right now is about to give me an offer...I'll keep you informed. He seems to be selling below MSRP-I will see. How far are you from Philly? How much of a hassle is buying a car out of state?
thanks
jvacierto 03-10-2005, 10:28 AM Oh, another thing, go to this website: www.carbuyingtips.com. The information is invaluable and I used it to buy my Element at MSRP, with all the options (painted rear spoiler, security system, and roof rack) and destination charge for free. I saved a little over $2000 with the tips on the website. Good luck with your purchase!
The dealer I am talking to right now is about to give me an offer...I'll keep you informed. He seems to be selling below MSRP-I will see. How far are you from Philly? How much of a hassle is buying a car out of state?
thanks
Let me know if you get a quote below MSRP - I'm from Philly so I'd like to use the dealership.
Thanks,
George
dicky243 03-11-2005, 01:49 AM I live in New Orleans, and every dealer received 3-4 Ridgelines. As far as I know, only 1-2 have been sold. Not per dealer, but in total. I think that the top of the line Ridgeline should max out at ~$31,000-32,000. This price seems more realistic. I think I am going to just wait it out. At MSRP, these trucks are not moving off the lots in my area.
delphi7x10 03-11-2005, 02:37 AM Dicky243,
Amen, to that. The dealers have greeded themselves out of the market. Even if the one I want comes in today, you better believe I want some deal.
My nearest dealer has sold 1 of 3 that came in on Feb 26th.
I live in New Orleans, and every dealer received 3-4 Ridgelines. As far as I know, only 1-2 have been sold. Not per dealer, but in total. I think that the top of the line Ridgeline should max out at ~$31,000-32,000. This price seems more realistic. I think I am going to just wait it out. At MSRP, these trucks are not moving off the lots in my area.
maybearidge 03-11-2005, 08:46 AM yeah...I noticed that too. They seem to be hyping them when you are at the dealer but there are still the same ones at my dealer for the last 2 weeks. I'll wait, unless somebody gives me a good deal, like the dealer from MD who is working up an offer for me...but he is trying to stick to MSRP. Like I said to him, is no profit better than some profit??
I will see.
delphi7x10 03-11-2005, 11:05 AM Maybearidge,
Nothing wrong with MSRP, if you get fair trade-in, and good deal on accessories, it when they want it all! :eek:
yeah...I noticed that too. They seem to be hyping them when you are at the dealer but there are still the same ones at my dealer for the last 2 weeks. I'll wait, unless somebody gives me a good deal, like the dealer from MD who is working up an offer for me...but he is trying to stick to MSRP. Like I said to him, is no profit better than some profit??
I will see.
maybearidge 03-11-2005, 11:15 AM Delphi-
Do you get 3-4K for a few hours of work? I don't. Why should they...because we are idiots and pay it
jvacierto 03-11-2005, 11:25 AM The dealer will make money even if you negotiated down to invoice, so don't worry about them! And a trade-in is just more money for them down the road . . . they're fooling you into thinking you're saving money with the trade-in.
On the carbuyingtips website, you can download a spreadsheet that will calculate for you exactly how much you should be paying for your purchase. You just need to fill in information, like destination charge, invoice of the vehicle, option prices, how much profit you want to allow the dealer to make (read thee last one again!), etc. Bottom line: you're in control, not them. Don't let them fool you into thinking MSRP (or a little below) is a deal.
I'll get off my soapbox now. ;)
delphi7x10 03-11-2005, 11:33 AM Maybearidge,
Exactly, that why I say tey have to deal on the other stuff, seems a lot of guys are getting accessories thrown in, that I can deal with. I don't mean 1 free set of splash guards either, I want roof racks, running board, and no install for tonneau cover.
Or I can wait, dealing is not far off, they are not flying off the lots.
Delphi-
Do you get 3-4K for a few hours of work? I don't. Why should they...because we are idiots and pay it
maybearidge 03-11-2005, 11:44 AM yeah....but then you have to figure what the accesories really cost them
jcj001 03-11-2005, 12:45 PM What is the dealer cost? Anybody have that yet? Yes I know "dealer cost" is not the actual cost to the dealer but it would be useful to have the number anyway.
GEEK1 03-11-2005, 06:01 PM I believe dealer cost is right around $24,500 for an RT, $27 for an RTS, and maybe $29 for the base RTL.
THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES BASED ON PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF PILOT PRICING!
Dktahg 03-16-2005, 12:20 PM The dealers are already going up in price. I'm already locked in from back in Feb., but all the poor souls now have a markup. I saw this RTL with no moon roof, navi or nothing packaged inside, but fog lights and step side going for $1K more than what I'm paying and I'm getting the moon roof and such. Finally saw the RTL interior and I'm glad that's what I chose.
Dktahg 03-16-2005, 12:26 PM I believe dealer cost is right around $24,500 for an RT, $27 for an RTS, and maybe $29 for the base RTL.
THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES BASED ON PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF PILOT PRICING!
Is that your Amazon Ridgeline? Is it RTL? You didn't waste any time with mods. I noticed you have changed the grill, added step side and roof rack. Is that a Hood air deflector you got or just the lighting playing tricks on my eyes? Send more picks, it's the same color and such as mine. I plan on putting the fog light and maybe step side on at the dealer. They said they'll cut me a break on labor and such. I already told them what I can buy the part for at H&A.
maybearidge 03-17-2005, 09:05 AM I'm going today to the dealer...he says he is going to give me a great price..yeah, we will see. I'll post if I get a good deal or a bunch of sales horse crap.
RTL44 03-17-2005, 08:24 PM If people are willing to wait a few weeks, I think you'll start finding deals. Dealers & salesmen know when a buyer is already sold and is buying with their hearts and not their heads. Once they realize that, your negotiating power is gone.
Where I live, none of the dealers are charging over MSRP. Maybe it's because there are 6 dealers within 25 miles and the competition keeps them honest :)
Of those 6 dealerships, only a couple of Ridgelines (out of 20+ in stock) have sold. I am a bit surprised, but then again, The Ridgeline is a little pricy, and the styling is for many, an acquired taste.
I bought a CR-V at dealer invoice when they first came out. I contacted 10 dealers within 100 miles of my house, and although 4 said no - some rather rudely because this was a NEW/HOT vehicle (sound familiar?) - 5 didn't even respond, but one said yes. I went out the next day, signed the papers, and was out the door in under 2 hours.
I knew what I wanted and was willing to pay, I had no trade in, and the dealership always wants/needs to move another unit, so it was an easy transaction for everyone.
Bottom line is, it's YOUR money. You don't HAVE to pay MSRP (or over!). The "NEW/HOT" factor will wear off soon. If you are willing to travel (or wait) a little bit, you can save THOUSANDS of dollars just by shopping around and being patient.
Just my $.02
-Bob
shovelhd 03-17-2005, 08:40 PM You won't get thousands of dollars off a Ridgeline today in my area (Northeast). Ain't happening. Comparing a CRV to a Ridgeline is nuts.
The dealers in my immediate area are holding at MSRP, but you don't have to drive very far to find one with ADM or installed accessories. They are all selling briskly, and I expect the interest to continue building.
The Pilot started out this way. Within six months we got $2200 off ours by shopping around, including out of state. But there was no way you would get that day one.
I need a new truck within the next 30 days. I signed today for MSRP plus $700 over book for my trade, which needs a clutch, brakes, and a front wheel bearing (4WD=$$$). I looked at this deal as $700 under MSRP. Works for me.
delphi7x10 03-17-2005, 10:02 PM RTL44,
I agree with you, what part of the country are you in, because I am seeing the same thing in the valley of the sun. Are we nearby, or does that mean that 2 large cities are not moving them?
If people are willing to wait a few weeks, I think you'll start finding deals. Dealers & salesmen know when a buyer is already sold and is buying with their hearts and not their heads. Once they realize that, your negotiating power is gone.
Where I live, none of the dealers are charging over MSRP. Maybe it's because there are 6 dealers within 25 miles and the competition keeps them honest :)
Of those 6 dealerships, only a couple of Ridgelines (out of 20+ in stock) have sold. I am a bit surprised, but then again, The Ridgeline is a little pricy, and the styling is for many, an acquired taste.
I bought a CR-V at dealer invoice when they first came out. I contacted 10 dealers within 100 miles of my house, and although 4 said no - some rather rudely because this was a NEW/HOT vehicle (sound familiar?) - 5 didn't even respond, but one said yes. I went out the next day, signed the papers, and was out the door in under 2 hours.
I knew what I wanted and was willing to pay, I had no trade in, and the dealership always wants/needs to move another unit, so it was an easy transaction for everyone.
Bottom line is, it's YOUR money. You don't HAVE to pay MSRP (or over!). The "NEW/HOT" factor will wear off soon. If you are willing to travel (or wait) a little bit, you can save THOUSANDS of dollars just by shopping around and being patient.
Just my $.02
-Bob
You won't get thousands of dollars off a Ridgeline today in my area (Northeast). Ain't happening. Comparing a CRV to a Ridgeline is nuts.
The dealers in my immediate area are holding at MSRP, but you don't have to drive very far to find one with ADM or installed accessories. They are all selling briskly, and I expect the interest to continue building.
The Pilot started out this way. Within six months we got $2200 off ours by shopping around, including out of state. But there was no way you would get that day one.
I need a new truck within the next 30 days. I signed today for MSRP plus $700 over book for my trade, which needs a clutch, brakes, and a front wheel bearing (4WD=$$$). I looked at this deal as $700 under MSRP. Works for me.
What dealer gave you that deal? I'm in the northeast and haven't had much luck with my local dealers.
Thanks,
George
maybearidge 03-18-2005, 08:32 AM I got an offer of 500 of MSRP on a NAV. but I declined. My dealer still has his original allocation...I told him to call me when he is ready. If he is making 4K he can do better than that. Just remember....gas is going up...they may be choking on them. Nobody seems to like the looks in my area
I got an offer of 500 of MSRP on a NAV. but I declined. My dealer still has his original allocation...I told him to call me when he is ready. If he is making 4K he can do better than that. Just remember....gas is going up...they may be choking on them. Nobody seems to like the looks in my area
What dealer did you use and what area are you located?
Thanks,
George
RTL44 03-20-2005, 09:30 PM Shovelhd,
I was not comparing a CRV to a Ridgeline per se. I was talking about what dealers do whenevever there is a NEW vehicle that they try to hype and get top $ for. Some people are willing to pay a premium to be one of the first on the block to buy whatever is the new model. You can pay MSRP if you want. It's your money. Oh, and I won't call you "nuts" for doing it. I just know that when the newness wears off in a few weeks, savvy shoppers will be able to save thousands.
Enjoy your new ride,
Bob
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