: Happy Thanksgiving

11-24-2010, 08:11 AM
I want to wish my fellow ROC members a Happy Thanksgiving. I am in Auburn MA with my son. Everyone enjoy you families and time off. FLA-Vyk

5S Dude
11-24-2010, 08:15 AM
Right back at cha buddy!! everyone have a great turkeyday...

Take care & stay healthy!

11-24-2010, 01:02 PM
Thank you and same wishes to everyone on the R

11-24-2010, 01:08 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to all be safe.

11-24-2010, 01:08 PM
Vic and everyone else on the ROC

I hope each and everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving Day.


11-24-2010, 02:02 PM
Everyone please have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving! Don't drink and wreak your Ridgelines!

11-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Same here...I hope everybody has a happy and safe Thanksgiving! Oh, and if you get groped at the airport, hopefully it is your significant other, and not somebody from the TSA...:act024:

11-24-2010, 02:23 PM
Same here...I hope everybody has a happy and safe Thanksgiving! Oh, and if you get groped at the airport, hopefully it is your significant other, and not somebody from the TSA...:act024:

My 83 year old father is looking forward to his groping by the TSA - He wants a young lady to do it and he will respond in kind.

wayne beck
11-24-2010, 03:16 PM
Hi everyone Happy Thanksgiving to all

11-24-2010, 03:31 PM
I also would like to wish all the great members here a happy and safe Thanksgiving, don't drink too much tonight and don't eat too much tomorrow, if you have to drive please be safe.

11-24-2010, 08:18 PM
Happy Turkey day!!!

11-24-2010, 09:10 PM
Happy Black Friday ...... :act035:

11-24-2010, 09:28 PM

If you woke up this morning with more health than illness, you are more blessed than the million who won't survive the week.

If you have never experienced the danger of battle, the loneliness of imprisonment, the agony of torture, or the pangs of starvation, you are ahead of 20 million people around the world.

If you attend a church meeting without fear of harassment, arrest, torture, or death, you are more blessed than almost three billion people in the world.

If you have food in your refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof over your head and a place to sleep, you are richer than 75% of this world.

If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace, you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.

If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are truly thankful, you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.

If you can read this message, you are more blessed than over two billion people in the world that cannot read anything at all.

You are so blessed in ways you may never even know.

by Stephen Eardley
"Reconnections & New Directions" 2003 Conference
Lester B. Pearson College

11-25-2010, 01:23 AM
May your turkey be plump,

May your potatoes and gravy have never a lump

May your yams be delicious and your pies take the prize,

And may your Thanksgiving dinner stay off your thighs.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

(author unknown)

11-25-2010, 06:01 PM
Hi ROC buddies! BIGGUY and I just finished our Thanksgiving feast. It's our first in our new home, as we went out to eat last Thanksgiving. I'm flush with thanks for so many blessings this year. The ROC and all the wonderful people I've met here are high on the list of blessings I count in my life. Thanks to all of you who have reached out to me through cyberspace and those of you I've had the great pleasure of meeting in person. You have enhanced my life in many ways.

May all of you be enjoying this holiday with gratitude in your hearts and loved ones by your side.

11-25-2010, 06:45 PM

Thanksgiving is America's preeminent day. It is celebrated every year on the fourth Thursday in the month of November. It has a very interesting history. Its origin can be traced back to the 16th century when the first thanksgiving dinner is said to have taken place.

Journey of Pilgrims

The legendary pilgrims crossed the Atlantic in the year 1620 in the Mayflower, a 17th Century sailing vessel. About 102 people traveled for nearly two months with extreme difficulty. This was so because they were kept in the cargo space of the sailing vessel. No one was allowed to go on the deck due to terrible storms. The pilgrims comforted themselves by singing Psalms- a sacred song.

Arrival in Plymouth

The pilgrims reached Plymouth rock on December 11, 1620, after a sea journey of 66 days. Though the original destination was somewhere in the northern part of Virginia, they could not reach the place owing to winds blowing them off course. Nearly 46 pilgrims died due to extreme cold in winter. However, in the spring of 1621, Squanto, a native Indian taught the pilgrims to survive by growing food.

Day of Fasting and Prayer

In the summer of 1621, owing to severe drought, pilgrims called for a day of fasting and prayer to please God and ask for a bountiful harvest in the coming season. God answered their prayers and it rained at the end of the day. It saved the corn crops.

First Thanksgiving Feast

It is said that Pilgrims learnt to grow corn, beans and pumpkins from the Indians, which helped all of them survive. In the autumn of 1621, they held a grand celebration where 90 people were invited including Indians. The grand feast was organized to thank god for his favors. This communal dinner is popularly known as “The first thanksgiving feast”. There is however, no evidence to prove if the dinner actually took place.

While some historians believe pilgrims were quite religious so, their thanksgiving would've included a day of fasting and praying, others say that the Thanksgiving dinner did take place.

Turkey and First Thanksgiving Feast

There is no evidence to prove if the customary turkey was a part of the initial feast. According to the first hand account written by the leader of the colony, the food included, ducks, geese, venison, fish, berries etc.

Pumpkin and Thanksgiving Feast

Pumpkin pie, a modern staple adorning every dinner table, is unlikely to have been a part of the first thanksgiving feast. Pilgrims however, did have boiled pumpkin. Diminishing supply of flour led to the absence of any kind of bread.

The feast continued for three days and was eaten outside due to lack of space. It was not repeated till 1623, which again witnessed a severe drought. Governor Bradford proclaimed another day of thanksgiving in the year 1676. October of 1777 witnessed a time when all the 13 colonies joined in a communal celebration. It also marked the victory over the British.

After a number of events and changes, President Lincoln proclaimed last Thursday in November of thanksgiving in the year 1863.

11-25-2010, 06:49 PM
On a side note, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, may you enjoy the blessing of life in this great Country, but we must recognize that the Pilgrams were just the lucky ones, the Native American Indians lost all, except it does look good for a Casino in Port Huron and we know that this will be something else to give thanks for.
Best Wishes
Now for some truth:

By Janese Silvey Columbia Daily Tribune

Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Most families sitting down to enjoy a Thanksgiving meal tomorrow won’t try to hash out the true meaning of the holiday. For many, it’s simply a time to enjoy turkey and stuffing and perhaps some football.
LuAnne Roth, who teaches American folklore in the University of Missouri’s Department of English, enjoys that aspect of the holiday, too. It’s just the Pilgrim-and-Indian myth that makes her cringe.

“A lot of elementary schools still teach the myth of the first Thanksgiving,” said Roth, who defended her dissertation last week about unraveling Thanksgiving traditions.

Of course, many children’s books portray the first Thanksgiving as the time American Indians welcomed European settlers at Plymouth Rock by sitting down for a meal together. That’s the myth. By most scholarly accounts, the Pilgrims who came here were dying from illnesses and malnutrition before an American Indian helped them learn to grow corn and live off the land. Although many believe Gov. William Bradford organized a feast after the first successful corn harvest, Roth said there’s no proof such a feast took place. In her studies, she found that Bradford often declared religious days of thanks.

There’s only one mention of a feast involving Wampanoag Indians, and that was from a letter sent from a Pilgrim trying to encourage a friend from England to come to the New World.

Regardless, what followed was the demise of life as American Indians knew it.

Roth acknowledges it might not be appropriate to teach young children “the truth because it’s ugly, stealing a country from people already here. I agree, maybe not. But when do we teach them the truth? Not until American history courses in college?”

The story of Thanksgiving took hold when President Abraham Lincoln declared it an official holiday in 1863, Roth said. The fable perpetuated in public schools, where teachers hoped the celebration would provide a model for how to treat the influx of immigrants arriving in America during that time period, she said.

But Roth is surprised the story is still presented as truth some 150 years later.

“I teach a section on American festivals, and most students are not aware that this is a myth and isn’t historical fact,” she said. “A lot of Americans assume it’s true because why wouldn’t you? It’s what you were taught in school.”

Activities in Columbia Public Schools involving Pilgrims and American Indians aren’t part of any formal curriculum, said Sally Beth Lyon, chief academic officer. Rather, just like any holiday, it’s up to individual schools and teachers to deem how to celebrate Thanksgiving.

“That topic would be discussed in context of U.S. history in fifth grade — the age of exploration, colonization, which includes a Native American unit in which students do activities like researching the lives and beliefs and cultures of indigenous peoples,” she said. “Pilgrims and Indians are not part of that curriculum. Holiday celebrations are not part of curricula.”

But the story also provides a kinder, gentler version of the truth that many cling to because it’s compelling, Roth said.

“I would argue that the story is so compelling it justifies colonization and makes it seem as though American Indians went along with it and welcomed Pilgrims to their land,” she said. “It makes mainstream America feel good about that aspect of our history. The problem, of course, is it’s only taught through the lens of Europeans and rarely through the perspective of American Indians, for many of whom it’s a day of mourning for the demise of their culture and life as they knew it.”

Don Hart, a member of the Northern Cherokee of Missouri, said it would be nice if schools taught children that Indians saved the Pilgrims from starvation instead of presenting it as a peaceful exchange at Plymouth Rock. But he is used to inaccuracies in American Indians’ history.

“There’s so much in the history books that is told entirely wrong,” he said. “The real fact of the matter is had Indians not shared their food and taught them how to plant corn, they wouldn’t have made it two more months.”

That said, Hart will be enjoying Thanksgiving dinner with most people tomorrow.

“It’s a good day to meet with family and give thanks to the Creator for having made it through another year,” he said. “The central theme is to take time with your family to say to the creator, ‘Thank you for letting us be here one more year’ and forget about those things that are not accurate.”