back up sensors

amazonEX-L
04-01-2005, 10:35 AM
Picked my new ridgeline yesterday and immediately decided that I require back up sensors (vision very limited). Can someone please advise re experience with these? Cost is high but if they do the job I will invest in them. Also - would the Honda accessory be the way to go or is there an after-market. I am in Ontario Canada.

Help / advice appreciated.

Terry
04-01-2005, 10:44 AM
Hi,

I got the same problem on the rear vision. That's why I had mine in the shop yesterday for putting the back up camera, roof rack, running board and hood deflector. The camera would really kill me as the cost of almost close to $1000 installed. But i think it's worth it with the Navi. God, i love the Navi sooo much and it's so cool.

Steel blue EX-L Navi in Vancouver, B.C

maybearidge
04-01-2005, 10:48 AM
Does the camera come through the NAVI screen????

I hate the way the camera looks on the back..

bongus
04-01-2005, 11:05 AM
Does the camera come through the NAVI screen????

I hate the way the camera looks on the back..

Yes, the Honda back-up camera is only available with the Navi option.

amazonEX-L
04-01-2005, 11:24 AM
I do not have nav so the sensors are the only way I can go - anyone with experience with them - is there an after market or do I go with Honda. Need some advice please.

Thanks

vertrkr
04-01-2005, 11:31 AM
I do not have nav so the sensors are the only way I can go - anyone with experience with them - is there an after market or do I go with Honda. Need some advice please.
Thanks

I'm almost done installing some $99 backup sensors. I've tested they work in a semi-installed state. I just need to finish up mounting the screen/speaker in the dash and then I'll fully test and right up my findings. Probably sometime this weekend if I can get my kids to nap for a while.

delphi7x10
04-01-2005, 11:35 AM
AmazonEX-L,

There is a wireless set available, vertrkr installed them on his ridge, however he could not get them to, thought it was a bad board and was ordering another. You may want to touch base with him, as the install is a lot easier, and the unit was only $99.00. Hopefully he has his new board and can now say if they are worth the price.

Search the form for wireless and you should find the thread.

Where in Ontario are you?


I do not have nav so the sensors are the only way I can go - anyone with experience with them - is there an after market or do I go with Honda. Need some advice please.

Thanks

bongus
04-01-2005, 11:39 AM
I do not have nav so the sensors are the only way I can go - anyone with experience with them - is there an after market or do I go with Honda. Need some advice please.

Thanks

I have the Honda back up sensor accessory. So far it has saved me once...and I am happy with the functionality of the accessory. Be aware that the backup sensor are black and at this time there is none available to match any body color...I guess Nighthawk black might match.

delphi7x10
04-01-2005, 11:39 AM
AmazonEX-L,

Here is that thread I was talking about.

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252&highlight=wireless

Hope it helps

vertrkr
04-01-2005, 11:41 AM
AmazonEX-L,
There is a wireless set available, vertrkr installed them on his ridge, however he could not get them to, thought it was a bad board and was ordering another. You may want to touch base with him, as the install is a lot easier, and the unit was only $99.00. Hopefully he has his new board and can now say if they are worth the price.


Actually turned out it was not a bad board. I just had the polarity wrong going into the board. Once I discovered that they started working. Anyway, as I mentioned when I'm fully done with the install I'll create a new thread with pics and details.

amazonEX-L
04-01-2005, 11:52 AM
I am in Mississauga - I will try to get additional info from vertrkr when available. May just go with the factory unit. I do want to know how effective they are - are they worth the investment?

There is a wireless set available, vertrkr installed them on his ridge, however he could not get them to, thought it was a bad board and was ordering another. You may want to touch base with him, as the install is a lot easier, and the unit was only $99.00. Hopefully he has his new board and can now say if they are worth the price.

Search the form for wireless and you should find the thread.

Where in Ontario are you?[/QUOTE]

amazonEX-L
04-01-2005, 11:54 AM
I have the amazon green - will the black be a problem? Comment appreciated.


I have the Honda back up sensor accessory. So far it has saved me once...and I am happy with the functionality of the accessory. Be aware that the backup sensor are black and at this time there is none available to match any body color...I guess Nighthawk black might match

conchflats
04-01-2005, 02:44 PM
I had the back up sensors installed 2 days ago. They work well but require getting use to . 1st they are loud very time you put the truck in Reverse a single loud tone goes off for 1 sec. Now sometimes as you put it in drive you shift passed Reverse and there goes the tone .Can be a bit shocking (my wife hates this) .2nd the start beeping very 2 sec. when you are 6 feet from an object big enough to refect the signal from the sensors ,this includeds straight behind you and off the corner of the truck . Yes the side sensors detect objects behind and slightly to the side of the truck. These work with the tailgate down (IMPORTANT FEATURE) . The middle 2 sensors are changed to emit tone when 3 feet from tailgate, when the tailgate is down . At 3 feet the beeping is every 1 sec. then 1 foot it is a constant tone .
Now are they worth $775.00 that I paid from them to be installed ?
That is the thing about safty features you hope you never need them . But if you do how much would you pay if you hit something or someone .
I never had to be saved by airbags and I pray to God I never will but I would never owne a car without them .

laserfan
04-01-2005, 03:31 PM
From the company that vertrkr ordered his LCD unit from--I was surprised at the number of different types available, and these of course are only a sampling. Of particular interest is the color LCD embedded in the rearview mirror!

I think I want sensors also, not sure what to order yet:

http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/paasvebase.html (http://)

vertrkr
04-01-2005, 03:43 PM
From the company that vertrkr ordered his LCD unit from--I was surprised at the number of different types available, and these of course are only a sampling. Of particular interest is the color LCD embedded in the rearview mirror!
I think I want sensors also, not sure what to order yet:
http://www.sportsimportsltd.com/paasvebase.html (http://)

Me too, picked the one I like best. Figured I couldn't lose with the price, could always install the Honda one later if they didn't work out. Certainly the Honda ones are most likey high quality but the technology has matured so much for this I'm not sure there's much a difference anymore. The Honda one defintely have the edge being able to work with the tailgate down without false signals but I rarely if ever haul with the gate down and if I do there is a mute button on mine. Still don't know how my cheapo's work in the real world yet, stay tuned.

AHart
04-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Conchflats - Thanks for the pic of your sensors. I am getting them installed on my silver RTL, and was wondering how obtrusive the black sensor would be on the sliver bumper. It doesn't look bad at all. With the rear visibility of this truck, I think these sensors are a very good idea.

bongus
04-01-2005, 09:07 PM
Conchflats - Thanks for the pic of your sensors. I am getting them installed on my silver RTL, and was wondering how obtrusive the black sensor would be on the sliver bumper. It doesn't look bad at all. With the rear visibility of this truck, I think these sensors are a very good idea.

I agree...I had mine installed the day after I bought my RTL. You will get accustomed to the loud tone...but for newbies it can be annoying.

06RTLNAVBlue
04-01-2005, 09:59 PM
I would like to know how large your "field of view" is on the camera. Please inform us how it looks on the screen, etc. I have wanted the camera although either time consuming to install or paying honda about $800.00 labor like you mentioned. Thanks!

AHart
04-01-2005, 11:58 PM
If anyone has the camera installed, posting a pic of it would be helpful. I too am wondering about getting the camera, but am concerned it will look out of place mounted on the tailgate.

vertrkr
04-02-2005, 10:08 PM
Installed the wireless backup sensors, detailer here:
http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543

Skywalker
04-26-2005, 08:40 AM
Want a good reason to consider back up sensors or a camera....

This happened yesterday...
"A young B.C. boy was hovering near death in a Calgary hospital last night after he was run over in his parent's driveway. Just after 12:30 p.m. yesterday, paramedics and Columbia Valley Mounties were called to the community of Canal Flats, about 190 km southwest of Calgary.

There they found a 21-month-old boy who had just been run over by a vehicle driven by one of his parents.

The child was so severely injured, a nurse and doctor were flown from Invermere hospital to the home.

Calgary's STARS air ambulance then transported the boy from Invermere to the Alberta Children's Hospital.

The child suffered severe injuries to the right side of his body as well as massive head trauma.

RCMP said a vehicle was backing out of the driveway when the boy ran up to it and was struck.

His condition was listed late yesterday as life-threatening.

Police were investigating the collision and would not confirm it was the boy's mother behind the wheel at the time.

They did say the injured child and the driver were from the same family. "
- By MIKE D'AMOUR, CALGARY SUN

"Kids and Cars, an American non-profit organization that collects statistics on backover incidents from public records, says that in 2002 at least 58 children died in the US as a result of being backed over by a motor vehicle. According to Kids and Cars, over 80 per cent of the victims are under four years of age, and a parent or close relative is behind the wheel in about 60 per cent of the cases."

Enough said.



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The Great Tristano
04-26-2005, 10:43 AM
A back-up camera will not compensate for negligence. The kid is not even 2 years old and he's running around outside by himself? And if someone else was outside they didn't know there was a vehicle backing out of the driveway??

If a car can fix that, then why not just build a robot to take care of raising them while we're at it. Let us do what's really important, like work weekends to pull in another $100k. All kids really need is a car when they turn 16 and a college fund...

laserfan
04-26-2005, 11:25 AM
While the particular story cited would probably have occurred backup-sensor-or-not (the boy "ran up to it"), the Ridge certainly could use some help.

Yesterday I almost backed my sister's Tahoe into a parked truck at a Lowe's--the thing was parked improperly and I didn't see it for the blind spot.

I prefer a camera to the sensors I think; the images are likely to be compelling (i.e. interesting enough to want to use the system every time) vs. beeping or buzzers that one can become oblivious to, or at least have to be able to REACT to in time.

bongus
04-26-2005, 11:41 AM
From my understanding and experience, the back up sensors work well with fixed objects. It becomes more difficult for the sensors to react accurately when objects are moving around the detection field of the sensors. In this particular scenerio where you have a 21 month old running towards the back of the truck, there may not have been enough reaction time by the sensors to avoid the incident but what it may have done is reduce the severity of the injuries sustained by the child. In my experience, I was backing up in a parking lot...no sensor audible warning and all of a sudden a car comes wizzing by...I narrowly missed the car by about a foot (the sensor warning had a constant audible sound---means less that 1 foot before impact). BTW I have the Honda back up sensors installed. I agree with the previous post, all the sensors and cameras in the world will not excuse negligent and faulty parenting. :cool:

Skywalker
04-26-2005, 05:33 PM
Having 3 of my own, I agree that proper parental supervison can not be replaced by sensors. That said, it has been my experiece (with my Ford) that even quick moving objects set off the sensors. It may not be able to fully prevent a collision, but should certainly reduce the potential impact.

From years working at the coal mines, I have gotten into the habit of also giving the horn a short blast prior to backing up. A signal that has been etched into my kids (when they were old enough to understand) that the truck is going to move. When you can't fully see what may be roaming behind you, every bit of warning helps.