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06-04-2006, 01:57 AM
I'm posting this for people considering buying the Honda Ridgeline, who might want to have fun off-roading it, or need a pick-up truck that is real-world off-road capable (e.g. professional use - emergency services etc.).
I took notice of this new truck because it was a Honda, and frankly it looked pretty cool. It has that Tonka Toy look that is appealing and I was taken (technically) by it's use of modern automotive suspension design. From a brief look at the tech, I was in admiration of Honda's attempt at making a truck that handles. This is pretty forward thinking, and I was intrigued.
My real interest was to see how this fantastic (but possibly inappropriate) design would fair in real-word off-road conditions. I won't bore you with the test tale, but I would like to point out some of my findings.
Ground clearance. Frankly you can ignore the factory figures as they simply don't translate to real-world. I found the Ridgeline hit everything in sight. The underbelly protection is inadequate (but looks good on paper). This should be OK if your careful, and have someone spot for you if your near rocks etc, but watch out for that oil pan and remove those damn running boards if your likely to off-road at all, the out-riggers just bend, and then bend some more. What this boils down to is the reality that this vehicle has a long (122") wheelbase, which is totally counterproductive if anything even resembling a rock-garden is in sight. Thats a difficult one to get around when you absolutely need a good break-over angle.
Axle articulation. Presumably an issue with the wishbone fully independent design, but the Ridgeline is rather poor in this department. I don't have the RTI (Ramp Travel Index) figures, but I'm now not expecting them to be anything good. It lifts a wheel at the drop of a hat. Now this could be helped out considerably with a quality permanent four-wheel drive transmission design, which, the Ridgeline does not have. On test, and someone might want to comment on this, I found that the transmission waits for the front wheels to lose traction before engaging the rears, by which time the vehicle has lost sufficient momentum that the front then spin - and so-on. So much so that the Ridgeline, without grace, actually goes backwards under power on moderate (dry) inclines if one of the wheels has cause to drop a little (un-weight).
My recommendations are that this fascinating new truck be used on-road only. It's off-road abilities would be best left to clear dirt tracks. Upon which you might find that it is faster and more comfortable than much of it's competition. If you have to use it off-road - 1, fit aggressive A/T or M/T tires of at least the stock height. 2, Some form of lift kit or adjustment (sorry, I didn't get time to research it).
All told. Well, this is 2006, not 1976. There are many things that impressed me, the sweet Honda engine, the very intelligent load bay design, the contemporary visual design (although the small glass area bugs me, thats just me). I'm sick of seeing American and Japanese designs where they just fall back to cheap and cheerful leaf-sprung rear ends, like it's still 1956. I feel that Honda have hit the spot with the simple fact that this vehicle rides and handles like most trucks only dream about. It's a statistics thing, most people use pick-up trucks on-road. So why the hell not design one for that? Full marks to Honda. So why do I give it a D? Because it could have been so much more. It could have been competent off-road too, couldn't it? Food for thought - think Land Rover LR3 (LWB) pick-up. Now your talking 2006.
I took notice of this new truck because it was a Honda, and frankly it looked pretty cool. It has that Tonka Toy look that is appealing and I was taken (technically) by it's use of modern automotive suspension design. From a brief look at the tech, I was in admiration of Honda's attempt at making a truck that handles. This is pretty forward thinking, and I was intrigued.
My real interest was to see how this fantastic (but possibly inappropriate) design would fair in real-word off-road conditions. I won't bore you with the test tale, but I would like to point out some of my findings.
Ground clearance. Frankly you can ignore the factory figures as they simply don't translate to real-world. I found the Ridgeline hit everything in sight. The underbelly protection is inadequate (but looks good on paper). This should be OK if your careful, and have someone spot for you if your near rocks etc, but watch out for that oil pan and remove those damn running boards if your likely to off-road at all, the out-riggers just bend, and then bend some more. What this boils down to is the reality that this vehicle has a long (122") wheelbase, which is totally counterproductive if anything even resembling a rock-garden is in sight. Thats a difficult one to get around when you absolutely need a good break-over angle.
Axle articulation. Presumably an issue with the wishbone fully independent design, but the Ridgeline is rather poor in this department. I don't have the RTI (Ramp Travel Index) figures, but I'm now not expecting them to be anything good. It lifts a wheel at the drop of a hat. Now this could be helped out considerably with a quality permanent four-wheel drive transmission design, which, the Ridgeline does not have. On test, and someone might want to comment on this, I found that the transmission waits for the front wheels to lose traction before engaging the rears, by which time the vehicle has lost sufficient momentum that the front then spin - and so-on. So much so that the Ridgeline, without grace, actually goes backwards under power on moderate (dry) inclines if one of the wheels has cause to drop a little (un-weight).
My recommendations are that this fascinating new truck be used on-road only. It's off-road abilities would be best left to clear dirt tracks. Upon which you might find that it is faster and more comfortable than much of it's competition. If you have to use it off-road - 1, fit aggressive A/T or M/T tires of at least the stock height. 2, Some form of lift kit or adjustment (sorry, I didn't get time to research it).
All told. Well, this is 2006, not 1976. There are many things that impressed me, the sweet Honda engine, the very intelligent load bay design, the contemporary visual design (although the small glass area bugs me, thats just me). I'm sick of seeing American and Japanese designs where they just fall back to cheap and cheerful leaf-sprung rear ends, like it's still 1956. I feel that Honda have hit the spot with the simple fact that this vehicle rides and handles like most trucks only dream about. It's a statistics thing, most people use pick-up trucks on-road. So why the hell not design one for that? Full marks to Honda. So why do I give it a D? Because it could have been so much more. It could have been competent off-road too, couldn't it? Food for thought - think Land Rover LR3 (LWB) pick-up. Now your talking 2006.