06-032 2007 Ridgeline PDI and New Model Info

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That is odd, for the new 2007 models they say it has an "Occupant Detection System" for the front passenger seat that turns off the SRS if the passenger is less than 65 pounds.

My Canadian 2006 RL has this. Do the American models not have it?

we don't as best I can tell. I was suprised when I test drove that it didn't - my 05 element did....

Yes, this is new for the 2007 Ridgeline. 2006 models did have OPDS (with the OPDS sensor in the seat-back foam), but it did not have the seat weight sensors under the front passenger's seat. This is the same for
US and Canada models. The 2007 RL features the seat weight sensors, which allow the front passenger's airbag to shut off. You may be thinking about the OPDS and how it shuts off the side airbag.

Although the 2005 Element had an OPDS sensor for the side airbag, it did not have the seat weight sensors. As noted in the S/B, the seat weight sensor are what makes the difference on many newer Honda models.

Thanks for this info. I have six grommets in my glove box and had no idea where they went. This showed me where to put them.

Thanks for this info. I have six grommets in my glove box and had no idea where they went. This showed me where to put them.

Is the PDI sheet filled out in your paperwork? I would take it to the general manager of the dealer and let them know that the PDI was not done properly on your vehicle.

This question applies to the 2007 as well as the 2006 PDI doc.

Anyone know the implications if these steps are skipped?
Do the Idle Learn Procedure
Do the CKP Pattern Learn Procedure

It also says these procedures have to be repeated after a battery disconnect.

I'm pretty sure my dealer would not have taken the time to do it. Case in point I had to enter in the anti-theft pins myself.

Also hoping to get educated answers or at least informed approximations, not guesses. I was curious since we have had owners reporting widely varying fuel mileage and drivability issues such as throttle lag.

Thanks for this posting, it prompted me to pull out my 2006 PDI. Ran into one funny quote - "aftermarket wheels cannot be used on vehicles with TPMS", oh really. Cool stuff in there, the replacement battery for the key is CR1616.

The PDI check list is at the front of the Service History booklet. Someone should have signed off on it inside.

If the idle learn procedure was not done, you may experience erratic idle. No big deal, really. Want to do it yourself? Here's how:

-Make sure all electrical items (A/C, audio unit, defogger, lights, etc.) are off.
-Start the engine, and let it warm up to its normal operating temperature (the cooling fans cycle twice).
-Let the engine idle (throttle closed and all electrical items off) for 10 minutes.

Simple, huh? You should do this after battery disconnect.

If the CKP pattern learn is not completed, under certain driving conditions you'll get a DTC - it's rare, but it can happen. This wouldn't likely affect the mileage. You do not need to do the CKP pattern learn after battery disconnect.

Here's how to do the CKP pattern learn (note, the Ridgeline has a low and high CKP pattern learn procedure, and you have to do the low first):

Low
- Make sure the engine is at normal operating temperature, then drive the vehicle on a level road. With the transmission in second gear, decelerate (with the throttle fully closed) from an engine speed of 2,500 rpm down to 1,000 rpm. The procedure is normally a bit longer, including confirmations for the tech with the HDS, but it's easy to do.

High
-Drive the vehicle again with the transmission in first gear, decelerate (with the throttle fully closed) from an engine speed of 5,000 rpm down to 3,000 rpm. Again, the tech would confirm completion with the HDS, but if you do this exactly like this you'll be fine.

The reason for not recommending aftermarket wheels with TPMS is the sensor mounting location. You'll notice that the valve stem is in a different location than most aftermarket wheels. If the sensor is installed onto wheels not properly suited for the sensor, you may get erratic operation. This is the same problem all of the OE TPMS systems have with many aftermarket wheels. To play it safe, Honda simply recommends not to use aftermarket wheels. Don't expect Honda to resolve your TPMS issues if you're using aftermarket wheels. BTW, the 30 grams the sensor weighs can be balanced out.

Is the PDI sheet filled out in your paperwork? I would take it to the general manager of the dealer and let them know that the PDI was not done properly on your vehicle.

No, it isn't. I purchased the vehicle after hours and there was nobody to verify all the PDI steps were done before I left for home 120 miles away. The salesman was ripping the protective plastic off the hood and roof at almost 6:00 in the evening.

I went over it as good as I could the next day and found the tires still had 45 pounds of pressure in them, the windshield washer was empty, and the floor mats were in the trunk. Everything else seemed to be fine except I couldn't figure out where the grommets came from.

No complaints against the dealer though, it is my fault for being in a hurry. I'm sure if I had stopped on my way to Birmingham rather than on the way back it would have been perfect when I picked it up.

OK.....so let me get this straight...the 2007 RL has the sensors in the seat that will not deploy the passenger airbag if the passenger is under 65 lbs., but the 2006 does not? OK, I was lied to by my sales person. I asked specifically about this and I was told that it did have the sensors that would prevent the airbag from deploying if the passenger was under 65 lbs. I mean, a $20K Accord has it, but my $30K+ RL does not?!?

I have 2 questions:

1st) Was this an oversight or just stupidity?

2nd) Can a 2006 RL be retrofitted so it has this capability?

OK.....so let me get this straight...the 2007 RL has the sensors in the seat that will not deploy the passenger airbag if the passenger is under 65 lbs., but the 2006 does not? OK, I was lied to by my sales person. I asked specifically about this and I was told that it did have the sensors that would prevent the airbag from deploying if the passenger was under 65 lbs. I mean, a $20K Accord has it, but my $30K+ RL does not?!?

I have 2 questions:

1st) Was this an oversight or just stupidity?

2nd) Can a 2006 RL be retrofitted so it has this capability?

I'm sorry to hear about your salesperson.
Again, if the passenger is small in size (weight not being the issue), the OPDS will prevent the front passenger's side airbag from deploying.

1. I don't know. By the way, the 2005 Accord had the seat weight sensors, but the 2005 Accord Hybrid did not. There may have been reasoning, but I don't know what it was.

2. Anything is possible if you want to spend the money. You'd likely have to spend a lot of money to retrofit the seat weight sensors, as you'd also have to fit many of the newer SRS components as well.

I suspect the hybrid accord did not have it to lower costs and weight. They were aiming to keep hybrid costs as close as possible to the cost of the standard accord.

As for the retrofit, it might be worth checking into, you never know it might be as simple as buying a 2007 passenger seat and having it installed, but I think a better solution is to put the kids in the back seat. They don't belong in the front to begin with.