Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing a "Valve Pinging" sound when the engine upshifts? It seems to be worse when the AC is running. Just trying to see if I should take it to get checked out or if it's just the nature of the beast.
Thanks.

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing a "Valve Pinging" sound when the engine upshifts? It seems to be worse when the AC is running. Just trying to see if I should take it to get checked out or if it's just the nature of the beast.
Thanks.

Go directly to the dealer. Do not pass GO. Houston, you have a problem.

In 12,000 miles I haven't noticed this.

i have the same noise....sounds like an octane knock....but its not...i tried high test...didn't help. i tried a different brand of gas...didn't help.

mine is not worse with the a/c though,... it isn't constant but it does happen every time i drive the truck, usually upon accelleration in low gears, or if i just punch the gas pedal lightly. if requiring heavy accelleration, or travelling at higher speeds, it does not happen.

took it in for service and of course they couldn't hear it.... even though i took the tech for a 20 minute drive an tried to point it out to him.

they are trying to tell me that it couldn't be the valves because it comes and goes....i don't quite understand that logic since a piece of dirt floating around in there could cause it to come and go...couldn't it?

i also didn't notice it until after my first oil change.

its a little hard to hear unless the windows are open.

if you figure out a way to get thru to the dealer, let me know...the noise is driving me nuts. its a little embarrasing. i also worry whether any damage is being done.

sue

i have the same noise....sounds like an octane knock....but its not...i tried high test...didn't help. i tried a different brand of gas...didn't help.

mine is not worse with the a/c though,... it isn't constant but it does happen every time i drive the truck, usually upon accelleration in low gears, or if i just punch the gas pedal lightly. if requiring heavy accelleration, or travelling at higher speeds, it does not happen.

took it in for service and of course they couldn't hear it.... even though i took the tech for a 20 minute drive an tried to point it out to him.

they are trying to tell me that it couldn't be the valves because it comes and goes....i don't quite understand that logic since a piece of dirt floating around in there could cause it to come and go...couldn't it?

i also didn't notice it until after my first oil change.

its a little hard to hear unless the windows are open.

if you figure out a way to get thru to the dealer, let me know...the noise is driving me nuts. its a little embarrasing. i also worry whether any damage is being done.

sue
I have this too....
Jeesh, you've explained it exactly. And mine also started post 1st oil change. It doesn't ping initially but as soon as my RPMs come up a bit, it starts pinging.... :mad:

Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing a "Valve Pinging" sound when the engine upshifts? It seems to be worse when the AC is running. Just trying to see if I should take it to get checked out or if it's just the nature of the beast.
Thanks.
Welcome to the ROC neighbor. Sorry it's via a problem... Just curious where you bought your RL. It's really good to get feedback about local dealerships and their service departments.... :)

What brand of oil did you guys change to? Maybe there is an oil brand or type problem that can be identified. I am using Mobil 1 synthetic and do not have any additional valve train noise at 15,000.

What brand of oil did you guys change to? Maybe there is an oil brand or type problem that can be identified. I am using Mobil 1 synthetic and do not have any additional valve train noise at 15,000.
No pinging here with same oil and miles.

What brand of oil did you guys change to? Maybe there is an oil brand or type problem that can be identified. I am using Mobil 1 synthetic and do not have any additional valve train noise at 15,000.
Not sure. Honda dealer did the service so whatever Honda is putting in... :confused:

Not sure. Honda dealer did the service so whatever Honda is putting in... :confused:


Did the dealer include KREX additive with your engine oil.:eek:

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9056

My Ridgeline pings, too. Been pinging since day one. Took it to the dealer and they can't hear it. No one in my family can hear it. None of my buddies can hear it either. Glad I'm not the only one. We should form a support group.

Mind you, I have been off the ritalin for quite some time now.

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My Ridgeline pings, too. Been pinging since day one. Took it to the dealer and they can't hear it. No one in my family can hear it. None of my buddies can hear it either. Glad I'm not the only one. We should form a support group.

Mind you, I have been off the ritalin for quite some time now.


Well, now I guess I will have to turn the A/C fan down and the radio, open the windows, and listen for this pinging.

If I hear it I guess I'll be going on Ritalin! :(

If I hear it I guess I'll be going on Ritalin! :(

get the slow release kind...

I was just being silly. Is this another one of those one post wonder threads? The only pinging I get is when the engine is super hot and I park her. Pretty normal pinging sound.

If this is a legit thread, my guess is bad gas, too. Try higher octane on next fill. Anyway, with OBD II, the ECU should retard the engine to avoid knocking and pinging, right? I'm assuming the RL has knock sensors. I'm pretty tired... can't think straight........haven't had a good night sleep for a long time....... damn heat wave.

get the slow release kind...

I was just being silly. Is this another one of those one post wonder threads? The only pinging I get is when the engine is super hot and I park her. Pretty normal pinging sound.

If this is a legit thread, my guess is bad gas, too. Try higher octane on next fill. Anyway, with OBD II, the ECU should retard the engine to avoid knocking and pinging, right? I'm assuming the RL has knock sensors. I'm pretty tired... can't think straight........haven't had a good night sleep for a long time....... damn heat wave.

I appreciate your stab at my problem. I don't appreciate your discrediting my problem. :rolleyes:

Did the dealer include KREX additive with your engine oil.:eek:

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9056

It was never mentioned to me. Unless it is on my slip, which is out in my truck right now (I'll take a look later), I guess I won't know. But I will make mention on my next service. Thanks for the heads up on this one...:D

I appreciate your stab at my problem. I don't appreciate your discrediting my problem. :rolleyes:

Why would you think I was discrediting your problem? I was referring to the person who started the thread - the person who still hasn't posted anything since. If you had started the thread, I would not have said anything. With 700+ posts, why would I doubt what you say?

Why would you think I was discrediting your problem? I was referring to the person who started the thread - the person who still hasn't posted anything since. If you had started the thread, I would not have said anything. With 700+ posts, why would I doubt what you say?
Of course :D
Give the original poster a little time. Your joking started less than 12 hours after his first post. He's probably not as obsessed about the ROC as you and I yet. Let's not scare him away... His location is 2 towns away from me.... I'm pretty confident his concern is legit.
The ping is no body wrinkle...:p

Of course :D
Your joking started less than 12 hours after his first post. He's probably not as obsessed about the ROC as you and I yet. Let's not scare him away... His location is 2 towns away from me.... I'm pretty confident his concern is legit.
The ping is no body wrinkle...:p

Absolutely....... isn't it weird though? How 12 hours seems like days when you log on 20, 000 times a day. I really have to cut back. I could be working on the Ridgeline instead.

So, could it be bad gas? Same gas company? Being two towns away and whatnot. I recall in Northern Washington State, one of the larger oil refiners sent a bad batch (for lack of better word) to its gas stations. Since a lot of Canadians buy gas across the border, it affected them as well. I think the formulation error caused parts in the fuel system to deteriorate, leading to major engine failure.

BTW, gas here in Vancouver is now $1.20 a litre. That's getting close to five dollars a gallon. :eek:


http://gastips.com/

I do use the same 2 gas stations pretty exclusively. Mostly a convenience thing. The problem is, it's been pinging for, in my estimation, the last 10+ fillups. I would have thought by now if it was a gas issue that it would be clearing up.

I guess I'll let it go a little longer and keep an "ear" on it. When my wife asks, "Is that YOUR truck making that noise?" I know it's a noticeable noise...:D

Thanks mugan1:)

I would ask the dealer to flash the ECU to the latest version. They don't like to do that unless a specific problem has been identified, but your dealer should be willing to cooperate if you ask.

There have been a couple of ECU updates for the Ridgeline. Honda doesn't release all the information regarding what they "fix" with each update, but this may be an issue they addressed.

This is nothing but software... no hardware changes needed.

well, i have the same problem, as i stated in the second post.....obviously, mugen1 didn't read it though......yes i am a female, and i have been in the automibile business for over 30 years,so, i really do know an engine ping when i hear one.....and it has been several days since i posted....not all of us have the free time that it seems a lot of you do to visit this website. if my post had been read, then it would be known that different grades as well as different brands of gasoiline have been tried.....this is a serious problem to me. it is very frustrating when the dealer seems to blow you off.
to answer one of the earlier questions, i too use mobil 1. the dealer put an additive in on my third oil change. i don't normally use them but i thought if it made a difference, the it might give a clue to the problem....please continue the "productive" feedbacks as they are well appreciated.

humm - agree -

no ping here . . 8k and trip from Cinci to Charleston SC, Cinci to Chicago x2

i do hear a bit of rattle in the am, but it quicky goes away.

well, i have the same problem, as i stated in the second post.....obviously, mugen1 didn't read it though......yes i am a female, and i have been in the automibile business for over 30 years,so, i really do know an engine ping when i hear one....

post #4, you mean.....

BTW, what does having to be a female have to do with this?
If you've been in the automobile business for over 30 years, then you'd know what to do. Bring out the stethoscope and locate the pinging.

I tend to believe what csimo said about the ECU update. If the pinging or knocking is not severe enough, the knock sensor may not be detecting it?

You say it doesn't happen under heavy acceleration. During heavy acceleration the fuel injectors are working near capacity and air fuel mixture is rich is it not? It would be interesting to put an air/fuel meter (not the cheap kind that only show stoich, rich and lean, but one of the expensive ones) on your truck to see if the ECU is not doing its job very well. Perhaps one or some of the injectors are clogged from previous bad gas.

BTW, are the valves on the RL self adjusting? Does temperature have anything to do with it? I don't think one person's pinging is the same as another, so when someone says I have the same thing, it could be something totally different........ subee, having been in the automotive business for over 30 years, I don't doubt you knowing what pinging is. Besides, if you read my post I was not making light about what you said, just the first poster, who I thought was one of those "one post wonders" who probably doesn't even own a RL. Now that I know you are an older woman, should I treat you any different? ;)

btw, my brand of humour is understood by very few.

edit: I did read your post, subee, but only glanced at it. I was more interested in what the original poster said, sorry.......

btw, my brand of humour is understood by very few.
But increasing in numbers daily...Count me in as a newbie to your sense of humor... :p
:D

Yeah, it's pretty sad when I have to amuse myself online. I'm just trying for 1000 posts. While others are celebrating their senior member status, my goal is to beat you to the 1000 mark......

My brand of humour might get me banned, though. However, I figure if a guy like Basils can continue to log onto this board, I have nothing to worry about. I look up to that guy. Now he has posted some great ones.

hahahaha Now yes he has.... :D
As for racing to 1000, I suspect I'll be in therapy by then... :eek:

i know its been over a week, but, if anyone is still interested,....
took the ridge to the dealer again and left it all day to have am radio static fixed....they finally fixed it and this time while driving it, they heard the engine noise...they haven't fixed it yet but said honda told them to order new heat shields....time will tell

wondering if the dealer solved your pinging problem and what it turned out to be. i got the same problem and getting ready to bring into the dealer. pinging at moderate acceleration mainly in 2nd and 3rd gears. i was told that the engine has self adjusting valves.

I out 1700 miles on my RL in the first month and haven't heard any pinging yet.

I do have the ticking noise in the steering wheel (only noticeable when parking) but the radio masks that just fine. Will have the dealer take a look at that at the first service.

sometimes when I really floor it on the highway the engine makes a sound like a dull tamborine-like valve chatter and when I leave work applying light throttle I can hear what sounds like a valve tapping noise like the lifters hadn't yet filled up with oil. Hoping this doesn't mean bad news later in the truck's life. 23,000 miles so far.

the valve ping deal turned out to be the heat shield. the dealer adjusted it and the noise is gone. glad it was not an engine problem.

I am glad it was only the heat shield Subee, I have the pinging but only on this one steep hill in town on the way to one of my yards, the climb is about 80 feet in a distance of 500 feet, it only pings a bit at the start. I never hear it any other time.

I am from the old school . Pinging engine means that you timing is off….. Your ignition is Retarded. In the old days I would just advance the timing and go.. This is now controlled by your engine’s computer.
As for the valves making noise…. They either make noise all the time or they don’t. there is no in-between. And for the different oil making the noise…… NOT……A pinging engine will mean that Engine performance and gas mileage will be down along with no power when under a load. Your computer may not be advancing the timing when you need it. Like after engine start…
Or there is a vacuum line off somewhere. Good Luck.

I have about 27k kilometers on mine and it has started. Mine does it for the first 3.5 to 4 miutes after start up. Idle is fine but when you put it in gear and slightly hit the gas and let off thats where the rattle comes I use what ever oil Honda dealership puts in, no additives

Or there is a vacuum line off somewhere. Good Luck.


Wouldn't the CEL come on?

I am from the old school . Pinging engine means that you timing is off….. Your ignition is Retarded. In the old days I would just advance the timing and go.. This is now controlled by your engine’s computer.
As for the valves making noise…. They either make noise all the time or they don’t. there is no in-between. And for the different oil making the noise…… NOT……A pinging engine will mean that Engine performance and gas mileage will be down along with no power when under a load. Your computer may not be advancing the timing when you need it. Like after engine start…
Or there is a vacuum line off somewhere. Good Luck.


Your info is all wrong.

Too much ADVANCE = ping
Too hot = ping
too lean = ping
bad gas = ping
Hot, under heavy load more likely to ping ( a/c on hills)

If it ping take it to the dealer, that simple

Too much ADVANCE = ping

Yep........ that's why people buy MSD timing retard units. Wait..... no never mind. I'm thinking boost again. But the ECU should be able to detect knocks and adjust timing, no? I guess not enough...... what's the word...... outside the parameters.

Your info is all wrong.

Too much ADVANCE = ping
Too hot = ping
too lean = ping
bad gas = ping
Hot, under heavy load more likely to ping ( a/c on hills)

If it ping take it to the dealer, that simple

Like I said. I am from the old school. Pre computer Days.
Too much advance = hard starting and ping... I WAS WRONG....
we would advance the timing until it would ping then back off a few degrees
Too lean = back fire and glowing orange exaust manifolds
bad gas = low octang Maybe ?More like a bad sensor...
hot and heavy loads. This is all controled by your engine computer.....

Does Honda have an On-Board computer that they install and you drive a few days and then they download all the information to see what the engine is doing ?

TO SAY ALL MY INFO IS ALL WRONG IS RUDE.
YOU CAN ....DISAGREE.....