Hack the nav - enable trip computer and AC

[shovelhd]

No, I meant that both the auto lock and auto unlock features are completely disabled. It doesn't matter what gear the tranny is in. It doesn't matter of the truck is running or not. Everything is manual.

When I leave the vehicle, I lock the doors with one push of the lock button on the remote.

When I go back to the vehicle, I push the unlock button twice to unlock all four doors.

When I start the vehicle and drive away, the doors remain unlocked.

When I stop, all the doors are unlocked, until I hit the lock button again.

[csimo]

I want to publicly respond to an email message I received. I won't name the person, but the message accused me of misleading people into believing that a trip computer is possible with the Ridgeline. The person claimed that it was impossible to get a trip computer without major changes to the Ridgeline and Honda could not provide one even if they wanted to on existing Ridgeline's.

I had thought I posted my final message on the subject, but this prompts me to revisit the subject temporarily.

As I said earlier... a trip computer is possible with the Ridgeline. Honda went to the trouble to have the trip computer disabled in the nav system. There was no "adding" needed. As a matter of fact all the data is there even if you don't have the nav system!

Major changes needed? Absolutely not. I needed to make some minor changes because all the software changes would be more difficult. The fact is that the data exists in every stock Ridgeline to provided a trip computer.

Want absolute proof?

Want to add a trip computer to your Ridgeline?

You can get one (as ugly as it might be) at nearly any Radio Shack. It's called a ScanGauge and provides the trip computer info via the OBDII data.
http://www.scangauge.com/

Now Honda had the opportunity to do it in a much easier way since the nav system accesses the CAN-BUS and doesn't need the OBDII.

There's nothing magical about the nav system. Want to know the truth about it? I'm going to use the term "hacked" and "hacker" in the traditional sense... not as a term of an illegal act. Our nav system is nothing more than a hacked Sega Dreamcast. Same processor, same basic OS, many other components are the same. A good Dreamcast hacker could have the trip computer working in short order, but then that would cross that line and could be considered an illegal act.

To Honda... why not take the BS out of the game and give the people what they paid for? Why not just answer the damned question honestly?

Oh well... sorry about the tone of this message. I just got aggravated over the email.

[comquat1]

Csimo, any chance you'll get fed up enough that you'd let the polite ROC members to find out how to do this via pm? I'll admit, I'm not hacker, I don't have the talent for it, I rely on people such as yourself to show us the easy way to do things.

On another note, is there any statute of limitations that runs out on the licensing agreement for this system, whereas after a specific date we can do as we choose? Assuming of course that we know what to do.

[zero]

Csimo,
You are right. That scangauge is butt ugly!!!

[DWdrums]

Wanna know why we can't access the trip computer? It's real simple. IMHO, Honda mis-quoted MPG. There is a llot of political BS surrounding a honda getting 16-18 MPG

The fact is this, My Ridgeline does not and can not get 21 MPG


So they disable the Trip Computer so you can't see " The Actual"

Period 2 space.

[shovelhd]

Last tank 20.48mpg
Tank before that 20.01mpg

It can, it will, and it does.

Welcome DWdrums. Post a picture of your kit in the bed.

[gormleyflyer2002]

DWdrums.......I completely agree.

Good news is, I have over 15,000 km on mine and its starting to get better mpg..........

I'll be towing an inclosed trailor this weekend so it should be interesting to see what mpg I get

[captmiddy]

Honda certainly doesn't disable this because you can't get the EPA numbers because the EPA numbers don't belong to Honda anyway. Honda has no obligation to obtain the EPA numbers in everyone's driving conditions, these are simply estimates. Besides, anyone who believes any number the dash tells you for MPG without confirming it through fill-ups is just kidding themselves. My dash on my Civic Hybrid says I am getting 49.5MPG this tank, I know when I fill it up it will be closer to 45MPG. The Civic gauge for this is very optimistic.

The reason I have heard that seems the most plausible is that they didn't enable this feature because it is a feature of their more luxury vehicles and they didn't want to include it on the truck. Silly as though this seems given the price of the vehicle it certainly isn't a luxury vehicle.

[vertrkr]

Originally Posted by captmiddy

The reason I have heard that seems the most plausible is that they didn't enable this feature because it is a feature of their more luxury vehicles and they didn't want to include it on the truck. Silly as though this seems given the price of the vehicle it certainly isn't a luxury vehicle.

Actually I was privy to inside info why the trip computer got disabled. It was all because Honda got bashed on a JD Powers survey for the MDX about MPG. Apparently some didn't know how to interpret the trip computer fully and freaked out they only got 10 mpg which was true enough but the owners didn't let it average out over time, they just saw the initial mpg for a short distance and cried foul. Honda is very sensitive about mpg and the almighty JDP results which many consumers use as the holy grail. Honda did not want to risk another bad JDP survey for the Ridge so they decided to disable the trip computer, gee thanks Honda, way to solve a problem.

Here's an article showing how sensitive Honda is about mpg. Basically an interview with their top U.S. engineer:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8272373/site/newsweek/

[captmiddy]

Originally Posted by vertrkr

Actually I was privy to inside info why the trip computer got disabled. It was all because Honda got bashed on a JD Powers survey for the MDX about MPG. Apparently some didn't know how to interpret the trip computer fully and freaked out they only got 10 mpg which was true enough but the owners didn't let it average out over time, they just saw the initial mpg for a short distance and cried foul. Honda is very sensitive about mpg and the almighty JDP results which many consumers use as the holy grail. Honda did not want to risk another bad JDP survey for the Ridge so they decided to disable the trip computer, gee thanks Honda, way to solve a problem.

This is the problem with so many things these days. You buy a new saw at Home Depot, and you try to cut something with it and it doesn't quite cut the way you want. Instead of looking at the manual that came with the saw to find out it was never designed to cut the way you wanted, you go back and yell at the rep at the Home Depot. The public expects things to be dumbed down for them so they just don't even think anymore. I knew exactly what I was getting when I bought the truck, and yet because someone else is stupid, I lose features which would be helpful during a long trip, like how many more miles can I go and where are the next closest gas stations in range.

Originally Posted by vertrkr

Here's an article showing how sensitive Honda is about mpg. Basically an interview with their top U.S. engineer:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8272373/site/newsweek/

I found the funny part at the end, they don't buy it just because it is economical, but because it also looks good. I can tell you that is very true, the Prius gets better gas mileage for our commute than the Civic Hybrid, but my wife thought the Prius was the ugliest car she had ever seen and refused to buy it. It is her car so it had to be something she liked so there you have it, we got into buying Hondas because the Prius was ugly.