Hack the nav - enable trip computer and AC

[reddwarf]

Quick is not a concern. Hitting OK is. Thanks for your work on this!

[vertrkr]

Originally Posted by csimo

06RTLNAVBlue,
Now we need the same kind of info from 4.13b and 4.13c and other versions.

I've been told the 4.20 release was only for an update to Canadian DVD. Hope that helps.

[AHart]

Originally Posted by reddwarf

Quick is not a concern. Hitting OK is. Thanks for your work on this!

My thoughts exactly...

[csimo]

We need some help from any "computer experts" out there. We must find a way to burn or duplicate the factory navigation DVD and the duplicate work on the Ridgeline.

I know Dual Layer media is expensive. I don't really understand the "Change the Bitset for DVD+R DL discs from 'DVD+R' to 'DVD-ROM'" suggestion from another source, but someone here must know what it means and is willing to give it a try.

We've got to get past this hurdle. There must be a way to duplicate the nav DVD and have it work in the Ridgeline!

[06RTLNAVBlue]

Just a thought, maybe a "computer enthusiast bulletin board" or "club" would know how???

Csimo, I think you mentioned this site already but not sure??? Maybe somebody on this site knows??? (below is a copy of a previous post I made)

Interesting post I noticed at the bottom of the "Autoblog" article:

Posted Apr 22, 2005, 3:02 PM ET by sparc
If you're really bothered by the boring screens, that can probably be fixed.
http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000443040445/I'm surprised auto manufacturers don't provide simple customization tools like these themselves.

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000443040445

http://tl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112677

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21434

[zero]

I attempted to burn a copy of my Navi DVD tonight onto a Memorex DVD+R DL ('white DVD, version 4.13c). The burn worked flawlessly but the disc did not work in the Navi unit. I have no idea how to change the bitset of the disc.

Sorry guys, gave it my best shot.

[gormleyflyer2002]

Ok....Update from North of the border, my RL came with 2 DVD's

Loaded under seat: Ver. 4.20 (CANADA, and northern USA)
In glove box: Ver. 4.13A (USA and Southern Canada)

[csimo]

Originally Posted by gormleyflyer2002

Ok....Update from North of the border, my RL came with 2 DVD's

Loaded under seat: Ver. 4.20 (CANADA, and northern USA)
In glove box: Ver. 4.13A (USA and Southern Canada)

Great info! Would love to see a directory listing of the files on each of those DVD's.

[swampler]

Originally Posted by csimo

I don't really understand the "Change the Bitset for DVD+R DL discs from 'DVD+R' to 'DVD-ROM'" suggestion from another source, but someone here must know what it means and is willing to give it a try.

There is a utility that you download from your DVD recorder website that lets you change this bit setting. The +R/RW formats are the only ones this works for (not the -R/RW). It makes the disc more compatible with DVD players, but there is no guarantee that the DVD player Honda uses will read a recordable disc. Just like old DVD players won't read them. It's all in the laser that's used in the player to read the disc.

I have this utility at home for my burner, but I don't have the Navi unit.

[Drewbot]

Here are the files that were not the map data from an Acura RL. I checked and the map files are the same date and file size on both DVDs.

The disk label was white and was labled 4.13b

10/23/2003 04:52 PM 27,848 05M_14Wide.TTF
05/20/2004 02:32 PM 337,016 80000000.BMP
05/20/2004 02:30 PM 337,016 80000001.BMP
12/07/2004 04:19 PM 1,296 A0000_00.MNG
09/16/2004 10:27 PM 75,428,208 ARROW.BMP
09/29/2004 07:55 PM 504 d0.tbb
09/29/2004 07:55 PM 8,375,528 d0.tcr
09/29/2004 07:55 PM 10,320 d0_bsa.tbb
09/29/2004 07:55 PM 8,377,355 d0_bsa.tcr
09/29/2004 07:56 PM 85,865 dca0.evt
10/01/2004 07:31 PM 375 DCA0.REG
09/29/2004 07:56 PM 94,203 dca0_mod.evt
07/08/2004 07:55 PM 10,792,464 ENUS2FA0.LE
07/08/2004 08:03 PM 10,552,512 ENUS2MA0.LE
07/08/2004 08:06 PM 8,928,968 FRCA2FA0.LE
05/06/2003 08:50 PM 2,823,794 FRNCH2F.VC_
07/07/2004 01:00 PM 53,257,898 FR_ETB2F.VC_
05/11/2005 04:58 PM <DIR> HAWAII
05/11/2005 04:58 PM <DIR> MAPFONTS
05/11/2005 04:57 PM <DIR> MAPICONS
12/11/2004 01:32 AM 112 PRG_INFO.MNG
09/16/2004 10:27 PM 63,502,064 ROAD.BMP
12/11/2004 01:16 AM 4,013,215 S3VW.bin
12/11/2004 01:17 AM 21,372,807 S3VW2.bin
12/11/2004 01:18 AM 4,011,299 SHJA.bin
12/11/2004 01:18 AM 21,253,455 SHJA2.bin
06/22/2004 07:39 AM 70,256 SideShiftPart.bmp
05/11/2005 04:57 PM <DIR> SimpleBmp
12/04/2004 07:50 AM 4,001,179 SJAA.bin
12/04/2004 07:50 AM 22,682,743 SJAA2.bin
12/11/2004 03:25 AM 4,011,323 SJCA.bin
12/11/2004 03:25 AM 21,251,855 SJCA2.bin
03/25/2004 04:02 AM 1,972,080 Smplbmp.bmp
03/25/2004 04:02 AM 536 Smplbmp.idx
09/30/2004 12:43 AM 998,106 U2001_02.CIT
09/30/2004 12:43 AM 4,126,132 U2002_02.SIG
08/31/2004 04:26 AM 88,576 UPDATE_APL.exe
01/20/2003 07:11 PM 2,446,208 US_ENG2F.VC_
02/04/2003 12:57 PM 2,430,336 US_ENG2M.VC_
07/07/2004 01:08 PM 52,969,836 US_ETB2F.VC_
07/07/2004 01:16 PM 51,940,332 US_ETB2M.VC_

I went into the system setup and there is an update or load data button (sorry I forget right now) it seems to go to the DVD and load a ROM update as it showed a status bar and asked me to be sure not to turn the truck off. This is pretty normal behavior for a BIOS flash. I'm wondering if it might be as simple as renaming some of the .bin files to the RL names and running the update.

Also another thought. On the TSX hack they just use a regular CD to import the updates. We might not need to worry about the map data and DVD-ROM bit set if all we are doing is flashing the roms.

Csimo would digital pics of the various screens on the Ridge / Acura RL be helpful? Like the 2 attached samples.

While I really enjoy all the challenge of this project it seems like Honda would be so much better served not having us strugle through this.