Hack the nav - enable trip computer and AC

[slcosta]

Finally got a call back from Honda today regarding the nav trip computer and door locks. The tier two guy gave me the stock answers about the misprint for the trip computer (said it was a screen shot from an MDX nav) and the inability to have all doors unlock (not just the drivers door). What was interesting regarding both of these issues was that he said Honda would not be able to provide a fix (software or otherwise) for either problem. He said that they would consider my input for future revisions of the RL, but would not be able to develop a software solution on the DVD to provide a trip computer. He also said that they had no way to fix the all-door unlock issue without a complete redesign of the system

Just another in a long line of confusing and contradictory responses from those AH guys (AH=American Honda, not A**Holes - unless you're really mad).

[comquat1]

What is your issue with the door locks? Is it that you con't get all four door to unlock when you it the keyfob twice? I get mine to unlock that way. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your issue.

Also, Csimo got the trip computer to work, I'm assuming it's via software tweaking, so what he's saying must be false information. Unless all that Csimo got was a screen to come up that wasn't working, I don't recall if he answered my question as to whether that was a fully functioning trip set up.

Originally Posted by slcosta

Finally got a call back from Honda today regarding the nav trip computer and door locks. The tier two guy gave me the stock answers about the misprint for the trip computer (said it was a screen shot from an MDX nav) and the inability to have all doors unlock (not just the drivers door). What was interesting regarding both of these issues was that he said Honda would not be able to provide a fix (software or otherwise) for either problem. He said that they would consider my input for future revisions of the RL, but would not be able to develop a software solution on the DVD to provide a trip computer. He also said that they had no way to fix the all-door unlock issue without a complete redesign of the system

Just another in a long line of confusing and contradictory responses from those AH guys (AH=American Honda, not A**Holes - unless you're really mad).

[Truckin']

Originally Posted by comquat1

What is your issue with the door locks? Is it that you con't get all four door to unlock when you it the keyfob twice? I get mine to unlock that way. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your issue.

It's about exiting the truck, not getting into it. When the driver stops and puts it in park only the driver's door unlocks. I have gotten used to releasing myself with the button on the armrest before pulling the door handle.

I've never had NAV before so I don't know what I'm missing with no trip computer, but I am sure I want it!

We just got our second call from Honda and we are saying we want this for the second time.

[slcosta]

Truckin' is right, it's on the exit when only the drivers door unlocks. With 3 young kids, I can't hit the button fast enough before they are all yanking at the door handles trying to get out - drives me insane! - But I still love my RL.

[comquat1]

I'll look at mine today but I think I solved this with the quick reference guide. How do I know? My girlfriend used to have the same problem, but when i fixed the "hit button twice to unlock all" I believe I fixed the door lock issue you speak of. Actually, I don't think mine lock at all now when I put it in drive. Check the quick reference.

[shovelhd]

This can be defeated by following BOTH procedures in the manual EXACTLY.

[csimo]

Originally Posted by comquat1

Also, Csimo got the trip computer to work, I'm assuming it's via software tweaking, so what he's saying must be false information. Unless all that Csimo got was a screen to come up that wasn't working, I don't recall if he answered my question as to whether that was a fully functioning trip set up.

What false information have I provided? None.

Did we get the trip computer and A/C functions working? I will not say. I did say that we believe a fuel system part would need to be changed for it to work properly, but I will not say if we actually did that or not.

There are people involved from two different companies that donaned their personal time to the "project", but they aren't willing to loose their jobs for this. I understand that.

Our concept was to enable the trip computer on the Ridgeline. We had hoped it could be done with only a few software changes, and that might be possible but we couldn't do it. It requires a minor hardware change, but how that change effects the rest of the system is beyond the scale of our project. Did we accomplish our concept? Yes. We believe we proved that Honda could in fact enable the trip computer for a minimal cost.

If it had been as simple as we originally thought I would have released the update on my own responsibility. The other people involved work in the development of navigation systems and had no idea that Honda would have created a new fuel system part that did not provide the data to the CAN-BUS.

I wanted a trip computer for my Ridgeline. I tell you that it is possible to make it happen.

This will be the end to the "public" side of this story. It's not my goal to make you or anyone else believe what I've said... don't need that in my life and I'm quite happy with the results of what I've done.

[bellteck]

All names were changed to protect the innocent and CSI is now in the Honda witness protection program.

Glad you got the results you set out to get, im sure you spent hours upon hours doing it all. I still wish Honda would have just included the silly thing in the first place.

[SilverRidge]

Originally Posted by csimo

What false information have I provided? None.

Did we get the trip computer and A/C functions working? I will not say. I did say that we believe a fuel system part would need to be changed for it to work properly, but I will not say if we actually did that or not.

There are people involved from two different companies that donaned their personal time to the "project", but they aren't willing to loose their jobs for this. I understand that.

Our concept was to enable the trip computer on the Ridgeline. We had hoped it could be done with only a few software changes, and that might be possible but we couldn't do it. It requires a minor hardware change, but how that change effects the rest of the system is beyond the scale of our project. Did we accomplish our concept? Yes. We believe we proved that Honda could in fact enable the trip computer for a minimal cost.

If it had been as simple as we originally thought I would have released the update on my own responsibility. The other people involved work in the development of navigation systems and had no idea that Honda would have created a new fuel system part that did not provide the data to the CAN-BUS.

I wanted a trip computer for my Ridgeline. I tell you that it is possible to make it happen.

This will be the end to the "public" side of this story. It's not my goal to make you or anyone else believe what I've said... don't need that in my life and I'm quite happy with the results of what I've done.

csimo,

Thanks for the information we at least know that this can be done and maybe with enough of us owners sending in complaints they might do something about it (I'm not going to hold my breath on this) maybe not. By the response of a member here it looks like they are not going to fix this problem at least for us 06 owners anyway. I'm sure everyone here understands that you can't release info that would put others out of work I wouldn't want that. So everyone write the letters and lets see if we can get some movement from AH...

[slcosta]

shovelhd, are you saying all your doors unlock when you put it in park or shut the engine off? I followed the instructions a dozen times to no avail...