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Old 12-08-2009, 07:54 PM   #1
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Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Just had the little engine icon light up and the VTM-4 light come on at startup. They stayed on. Interesting to note that last Wed. I had my oil/oil filter, air filter, and VTM-4 oil changed. The RL also sputters when slowing down to stop and when stopped but does not stall. Thoughts?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:10 PM   #2
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Engine light and sputtering.... bad gas?

VTM-4 light comes on... problem with the VTM-4 system.

Recent maintenance? It all sounds too coincidental to me.

Sorry... not much help here.
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:29 AM   #3
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Gas is a possibility. I was running out of gas, needle was on E, starting sputtering a bit, filled it alittle. Went home. Had to run right back out, started it up, and the engine icon came on.

VTM-4 - who knows.

However, you are right. Way too coincidental. Just got it serviced last Wed. and 6 days later, problems.

Goes in today at 2:30PM. We shall see.

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Old 12-09-2009, 08:00 AM   #4
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engine light def from air getting in system no big deal may need dealer to clear light at least i had to...twice...no history with other light i have changed that fluid a few times i used small motorized pump to remove old fluid and make sure you use honda vtm4 fluid. no other.
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:15 AM   #5
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Would air cause the sputtering? Easy to turn the light off, but, it is sputtering.

VTM-4 service was done by the Honda shop.

We'll see how it goes.

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Old 12-09-2009, 08:16 AM   #6
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

I hope they filled the differential back up.

The engine sputtering could be from running the fuel down to empty. Mash the gas a few times.
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Well, this is going to cost me $220. Went today. They told me it was the EGR valve. It was clogged and I need a new one. Cost $146. They charged me for an hour's labor today - $74. Told me it is NOT under warranty. Hmmmm. 2006 with 32,900 miles on it. Thought it was an emission part which would be covered to my knowledge.

Anyway, it is what was causing the engine to sputter. It inturn caused the engine light to go on which in turn make the VTM-4 light go on because according to them, when there is something wrong with the engine, it shuts down the VTM-4 because the engine is unable to supply power to it, etc.

I am just curious why I was charged for them to run the codes and "clean" the EGR valve, yet, I need a new one. When I started it up, both lights were out. Took it about a mile and the truck still sputtered so I turned right back around and told them about it. They pulled some type of plug and it runs better than it did before????? Engine light and VTM-4 light came back on though. Part is ordered.

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Old 12-19-2009, 01:01 PM   #8
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

I just had my 30K maintenance over a month ago on my 06 Rigdeline. check engine and VTM light came on as I was pulling out of the driveway. Got to the corner, turned off the engine and started back up again. The VTM light disappeared but the check engine light still on.

Taking into the dealer to diagnosis -- It's going to be at least $100 for the diagnostics. Interesting how this happens just as the the 3yr/30k warranty runs out.
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

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Taking into the dealer to diagnosis -- It's going to be at least $100 for the diagnostics. Interesting how this happens just as the the 3yr/30k warranty runs out.
That would be 3 year/ 36k warranty.

Or 5 years/60k for the drivetrain.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:38 PM   #10
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Re: Check Engine/VTM-4 light on...

Yip it was 3yr/36K warranty. The service was a for B36 code, performed at 41K. The check engine light came on at 42.6K

Dealer checked it out and reported Code P0116 Coolant Temp Sensor Range Performance. A software update cleared the check engine light.

Software updates should be covered by the manufacturer as a service bulletin. If you release software that buggy and needs to be updated, the update shouldn't cost the consumer. In the in the information technology industry, software updates to fix bugs or patch an issue are released as free updates. The auto industry should do the same. At least provide a longer warranty period for software updates. Maybe 5yr/60K warranty on software updates.

It feels like stuff starts to break soon after manufacturer's warranty expires for me all the time. Guess I'll be investing in extended warranties more often.
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