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Old 12-28-2009, 03:54 PM   #1
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TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

I am getting rid of my Cooper Zeon LTZs tomorrow. One has a huge bolt through it and another has a small hole in the sidewall. Getting two replaced so I am gonna swap them all out since they ride loud as hell on the highway. I am considering 265/60/R18 Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revos. I want something a little smaller and more highway freindly and they look like they will fill the bill without looking too wussy. These coopers look awesome, but they are loud and they drop my fuel economy by 4 mpg.

Anyway, Discount wants to charge $60 to rebuild the TPMS sensors with the new tires. Apparently they just started doing this. They act like it is mandatory. I think that sounds like a big pile of crap. Nothing is wrong with them and they are not ever touched so why should they go bad? This sounds like a scam to me. Anyone else have experience with this.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:32 PM   #2
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

Firestone just charged me $16 for the kit with $12 labor

Sounds like more BS to me.................
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:32 PM   #3
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

They tried to sell me this "rebuild" when I went in for my tire swap. I finally caved after I told them that I had already had the stems (TPMS) out of the wheels when I had them powder coated.

Long story short, they didn't even have the "rebuild" kits in stock for my truck.

The tire shop put the new tires on the rims without rebuilding the TPMS sensors and (drum roll please)

Absolutely nothing out of the norm happened. The tires held air and the TPMS sensors TPMS'ed. The tires have since not lost any air after several months other than the normal tire pressure that you lose when it gets colder outside. The TPMS are still TPMS'ing today just as good as they did the day I got the truck.

I would ask your tire dealer if they would upgrade you to a king sized tub of Vaseline if you purchase both the TPMS rebuild AND the Nitrogen tire fill.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:39 PM   #4
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

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Long story short, they didn't even have the "rebuild" kits in stock for my truck.

The tire shop put the new tires on the rims without rebuilding the TPMS sensors and (drum roll please)
At least your shop was honest. Most of them would have acted like they rebuilt them and still charged you.
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Old 12-28-2009, 05:47 PM   #5
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

I am thinking it is BS. I am probably gonna fight them if they try to force it on me. I have taken these TPMS out of my factory wheels 30k miles ago and put them in my current 18" aftermarkets. They were not rebuilt then and there were no problems.

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Old 12-28-2009, 06:10 PM   #6
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

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At least your shop was honest. Most of them would have acted like they rebuilt them and still charged you.
I don't think that they would have been honest if I hadn't told them that I was one of the few people in the world that actually knew what TPMS sensors were and that I knew that service was BS but I would get it anyways because they offered it to me for next to nothing.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:17 PM   #7
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

The TPMS rebuild kits run around $10.00 per wheel so I would have them double check for the right part number. Most TPMS Sensors have rubber pieces in the stem, which like regular valve stems, dry up and crack. If you do not rebuild your sensors each time you put new tires on, you will eventually develop a slow leak in the stem which can ultimately lead to tire failure.
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Old 12-29-2009, 02:41 PM   #8
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you will eventually develop a slow leak in the stem which can ultimately lead to tire failure.
Isn't the entire point of TPMS to let us know when there is low tire pressure so it never gets far enough to lead to tire failure?
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Isn't the entire point of TPMS to let us know when there is low tire pressure so it never gets far enough to lead to tire failure?
Absolutley but a slow leak can turn into a blow out very quickly.
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Old 12-29-2009, 04:14 PM   #10
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Re: TPMS rebuild with new tires? Needed or Scam?

If the rubber seal is cracking and leaking - it won't be long until the Lithium Battery in the TPMS will fail - I would not spend 30% of the cost of a new TPMS ( ebay special ) on a rebuild kit ( the battery is not replaceable per the honda shop manual ) Lithium Batteries in a TPMS module should last 7 to 9 years - less in cold northern Canada and hot California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas Desert areas. In real cold or real hot for a long period without a normal temperature return they could fail as soon as a year.

If the rubber seal is cracking it is time to replace - not rebuild the TPMS.

Also if the Schrader valve is replaced it cannot be a regular brass one - it has to be nickle like the one that was there originally. The wrong one can cause false readings.

Also the screw cap cannot be metal - it has to be plastic - the metal ones corrode and cannot be removed.

The picture of the rebuild kit seems to show a metal screw cap.

Here is a link to a $33 new Ridgeline TPMS

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...Q5fAccessories

Here are 4 for $120 new Ridgeline TPMS ( hint they say ok for 2009 - WRONG )
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Orang...Q5fAccessories
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