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Old 08-10-2011, 08:13 PM   #1
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Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

Honda should break off a piece of their best engineers and designers to transform the ridgeline from an SUT to just a truck. Yes the RL is quite versatile with the 2 way tailgate, under bed trunk, folding rear seats and its overall look but for someone who uses it as a SUT and needs a truck occasionally, it can't really compare to a full size pickup. I think and I'm sure many others would agree that the RL needs some upgrades. Such as a real truck frame. This would allow for more towing capacity of course. This upgraded frame would also allow for the much desired lift kit. A solid axle setup is not nessesary for offroading but surely would help for those consumers. To work with the frame it would need a V8, or a V6 comparable to fords ecoboost V6. And attached to that engine would be a stronger trans to work with that power. The drivetrain should include the standard 4x4 features most trucks have, instead of having power in the rear for 18 mph at a time. You might be thinking that this would be wasteful because it would be like any other truck now, but the thing that would still set this monster apart would be the "Honda Touch". Every other truck lacks a duel action tailgate, an under bed trunk, 40 cubic feet of storage in the rear of the cab with seats up, all the spaces for nic nacs, chargers, phones, food, drinks and other junk, so this would be in all the ultimate truck because of hondas innovations. The upgrade of the RL would put Honda in the truck market along side of Toyota and Nissan.
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Old 08-10-2011, 08:44 PM   #3
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

With those kind of changes, you don't want a Ridgeline, you just want a regular pick-up truck, ie Chevy, Dodge, or Ford. Maybe you bought the wrong kind of truck for your needs.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:16 PM   #4
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

Honda would lose what Ridgeline customers it has. I do not want a truck like the big 3 make. I want a weekend warrior truck. Exactly what Honda Delivered.

The sad part is 95% of all pickup truck drivers do not need any more than the Ridgeline delivers.

It is not a work truck for hauling a trailer. It is ok for the once or twice that I need to tow a trailer 5 or 6 miles.

It is comfortable, and has plenty of pep. 10 years from now when all vehicles will only have 77 horsepower to meet the 2011 CAFE, we will have vehicles that everyone will want to own.

Go back and look what cars and trucks from the 1950's came standard with. Trucks did not come with V8 engines (you could order them with it), they came with a small 6 cylinder engine that had less than 100 hp.

If you need the power of a super duty ford - get one, don't ask Honda to make a Peterbuilt or Mack truck.

I like the size of my Ridgeline - it fits in the Garage just fine.

It is not the truck for my daughter, she needs an F350 dually and that is what she drives.

I love my Accord with a pickup truck bed - oops I meant to say Ridgeline as it is. I would love to see Honda remove the Macho front end and put something that would give me a few MPG more by being more Aerodynamic. the Brick front end makes the MPG suck. I think a longer sloping windshield and front end more like the Odyssey would help with the MPG on the highway.

I would love to see Honda lower the towing to 1000 lbs and give me 3 more MPG in the city with a CVT transmission.

Thank Goodness that Honda's manufacturing plants cannot make a vehicle larger than the current Ridgeline. I would not want anything bigger.

See opinions are line a**holes - everyone has one.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:27 PM   #5
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

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Honda should break off a piece of their best engineers and designers to transform the ridgeline from an SUT to just a truck. Yes the RL is quite versatile with the 2 way tailgate, under bed trunk, folding rear seats and its overall look but for someone who uses it as a SUT and needs a truck occasionally, it can't really compare to a full size pickup. I think and I'm sure many others would agree that the RL needs some upgrades. Such as a real truck frame. This would allow for more towing capacity of course. This upgraded frame would also allow for the much desired lift kit. A solid axle setup is not nessesary for offroading but surely would help for those consumers. To work with the frame it would need a V8, or a V6 comparable to fords ecoboost V6. And attached to that engine would be a stronger trans to work with that power. The drivetrain should include the standard 4x4 features most trucks have, instead of having power in the rear for 18 mph at a time. You might be thinking that this would be wasteful because it would be like any other truck now, but the thing that would still set this monster apart would be the "Honda Touch". Every other truck lacks a duel action tailgate, an under bed trunk, 40 cubic feet of storage in the rear of the cab with seats up, all the spaces for nic nacs, chargers, phones, food, drinks and other junk, so this would be in all the ultimate truck because of hondas innovations. The upgrade of the RL would put Honda in the truck market along side of Toyota and Nissan.
I disagree. A real frame will bring a real rough truck ride. Like all the rest. Honda has to refine the RL not copycat all the rest.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:29 PM   #6
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

Sounds like the F-150 Ecoboost is the truck for you.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:32 PM   #7
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

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Honda should break off a piece of their best engineers and designers to transform the ridgeline from an SUT to just a truck. Yes the RL is quite versatile with the 2 way tailgate, under bed trunk, folding rear seats and its overall look but for someone who uses it as a SUT and needs a truck occasionally, it can't really compare to a full size pickup. I think and I'm sure many others would agree that the RL needs some upgrades. Such as a real truck frame. This would allow for more towing capacity of course. This upgraded frame would also allow for the much desired lift kit. A solid axle setup is not nessesary for offroading but surely would help for those consumers. To work with the frame it would need a V8, or a V6 comparable to fords ecoboost V6. And attached to that engine would be a stronger trans to work with that power. The drivetrain should include the standard 4x4 features most trucks have, instead of having power in the rear for 18 mph at a time. You might be thinking that this would be wasteful because it would be like any other truck now, but the thing that would still set this monster apart would be the "Honda Touch". Every other truck lacks a duel action tailgate, an under bed trunk, 40 cubic feet of storage in the rear of the cab with seats up, all the spaces for nic nacs, chargers, phones, food, drinks and other junk, so this would be in all the ultimate truck because of hondas innovations. The upgrade of the RL would put Honda in the truck market along side of Toyota and Nissan.
Hopefully you didn't actually believe this opinion would be well received on the ROC. Let the flames begin.
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:16 PM   #8
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

I just picked up my 2011 RL tonight. I traded in a Nissan 350z and a Nissan Titan. I chose the RL because it had the best of the two I traded in. I wanted the utility of a truck for the bed and towing. I also wanted something in the midsize suv class that's smaller than a fullsize truck and still had decent gas mileage for longer trips.

The RL was just that. I can't tow 7000+ pounds like my Titan, but my titan only got 13mpg and was too big to find parking when I went into the city.

If they redesigned the RL to what post#1 and #4 suggest, I would not have chosen the RL at all.

On another note. A truck frame does not always mean a rougher ride. My Titan was pretty smooth, in fact I think it's smoother than my new RL.


OP, you sound like you want to undo evolution kill off a very mild mannered refined suv/truck.

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Old 08-10-2011, 10:19 PM   #9
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

No, I expected such reaction, but there are some things I would have changed if I were the ridgeline engineers and designers that work well for others. I don't use my RL as a work truck but it would be nice to keep the look of the RL with the offroad and work capabilities of a larger truck. I didn't by any means intend to bash the RL, just wanted to share ideas.
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Re: Things Honda should change in 2012/2013 for the Ridgeline

Muddy, I dont see you as bashing at all. Just think that the reccomended changes would nearly kill off all the features that make the RL what it is now. I like the SUT idea.
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