Hydrogen powered Ridgeline

[LeXRidge]

I have always been an a scientist at heart, and remember doing experiments in high school to produce hydrogen into test tubes using electrolysis. Well, unknown to me until recently, electrolysis methods have become much more efficient. Conventional electrolysis methods have yeilded around 33% efficiency. New methods are getting......get this......540% efficiency. That basically means 440% out of what is going in.

Why has the government ignored these findings, and patents? No longer do we have to store dangerous hydrogen into containers, but we can now produce it and use it in real time. Use what you produce, and no storage takes place.

I have been experiementing with this, and my first objective is to run a propane generator on it, to power the electrolysis process itself. I should end up with abuntant energy. Note, this is NOT perpetual motion as the water will have to be refilled, hence, not perpetual. A company in Clearwater, FL, has converted a '94 Ford Escort and Ford Ranger to run on hydrogen, and got 100 miles on 4 oz. of water. Holy crap man!!!

Also, google for Stanley Meyer. He developed and patented a process using normal tap water to obtain better than 1700 times better results than anyone at the time (1995). His dune bugger could run from Los Angeles to New York, NY on 22 gallons of water alone.

Why does noone know about this stuff? The Wiki on it claims this has been known for decades, but no company has actually acted on it. Some reasons could include:

1. How do you tax water in an energy capacity, replacing the taxes that are already charged on fossel fuels?

2. How do you satisify the biggest corporations in the world when you put them out of business?

Well, you don't. Governments are going to take a huge hit on this technology. And no, I am not blowing smoke up anyones anus, look it up yourselves.

I would love to run my RL on 100% hydrogen, but likely more possible would be to create a hybrid gas/hydrogen RL, gaining a 30-40% boost in gas mileage.


Here are a few good links to start with, but the Internet is your oyster:

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/
http://www.lonelantern.org/collection.html (scroll down 2/3 to stan meyer)
http://www.hasslberger.com/tecno/hydrogen.html
http://www.hydropowercar.com/content.php?content.6
http://stanleymeyer.com/phpBB2/index...12d1c08fb39a69 (forum)
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...plications_Inc
http://hytechapps.com/

[STEVE FROST]

As I undrstand one of the largest problems currently with using hydrogen to power a standard engine is the effect of hydrogen embritlement of the metal parts in the engine.

It electrolysis is becoming that effective, maybe we could go back to an external combustion engine to solve the embritlement problems. A steam engine, condense the exhaust back to water convert it through electrolysis to produce the hydrogen to heat the water.

Also with electrolysis efficiancies that great your wife would never need to shave her legs again.

[brich]

I heard Iran was enriching Uranium for use as Fuel in their Ridgelines..
At least that's what they say...

[swampler]

What about winter? Water freezes at 32F.

[STEVE FROST]

It would be a shame if Iran continued to develop enriched uranium, and had a nulclar accident and turned the whole area into black glass.

[brich]

Some didn't learn from Chernobyl...Some don't have the capacity to fully understand the impact of Chernobyl...

[vertrkr]

Combusting hydrogen in an engine designed for gasoline is not going to work because of hydrogen embrittlement. Because hydrogen is the smallest atom it easily embeds itself into the grain boundaries of the metal matrix causing stress risers which lead to cracks in the piston and piston walls. This is really first year metallurgy 101.

Using hydrogen fuel cells to power electric motors is another story but it also has its problems of electrolysis to crack molecules containing hydrogen. It takes more energy/electricity to break down these molecules into their constituents to form hydrogen and their waste products than it does to formulate gasoline.

Unless a super conducting medium and battery break thru occurs hydrogen is not a feasible alternative to gas.

[brich]

Originally Posted by STEVE FROST

... and had a nulclar ...

President Bush? Is that you? It's N U C L E A R.....

[STEVE FROST]

He can not speeek, I can not spel.

[LeXRidge]

I always thought hydrogen embrittlement (HE) was caused from nickel plating metal. When doing this, you must bake the metal for 2 hours at 375 degrees to release the hydrogen, to prevent HE.

I cannot find any references to HE being caused by the burning of hydrogen. The big concerns I've been reading about are corrusion issues due to the water (steam) exhaust. In this case, titanium or stainless steel is advised for all exhaust components. It was said a stock exhaust system would literally rust and fall off within the first 5 days of burning hydrogen.