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Old 07-15-2006, 04:53 PM
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Whel balance problem?

I went ahead and bought these wheels and tires from gixer03. They look good on my truck, and I can't find anything wrong with them, but I'm having a persistant problem with a shimmy in my front end. It feels kinda like wheel balance, but comes and goes. It's usually there between 45 and 70 mph or so, and sometimes it doesn't shimmy at all. Also, the vibration seems to vary when I move the steering wheel from side to side.
I've had the wheels balanced twice, by two different tire dealers. I also took it to Honda to see if there was a problem with the suspension. A tech took ride with me (he drove) and he said it didn't really feel like balance to him either. So they put it on the rack and torqued everything and all (with the suspension) seemed well.
The service guy was mystified, and so am I. He said the problem could be that these are aftermarket tires. I doubt that, but I'm here for the opinions of other owners who have put aftermarket tires on their Ridges.
I'm open to suggestions.
I've PM'd gixer, but he hasn't been around in a while.
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:18 PM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

probably shouldn't have bought whel(s)
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Old 07-15-2006, 08:33 PM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

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probably shouldn't have bought whel(s)
Are you funnin' me because I left an "e" out?
But no, I don't think there's anything there's anything wrong with the wheels/tires. I've checked the brands out on the web, I looked them over pretty closely, and so did the techs who worked on the truck in three different places.
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Old 07-15-2006, 09:59 PM
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Are you funnin' me because I left an "e" out?
But no, I don't think there's anything there's anything wrong with the wheels/tires. I've checked the brands out on the web, I looked them over pretty closely, and so did the techs who worked on the truck in three different places.
Yes, sorry, was on the way out the door and didn't have much time for anything else.

I know you have had the wheels and tires checked out, but I know people would sometimes put sealant that stay inside the tire as a preventative against punctures. That has had same effect. Not sure besides that. Post size of rims, tires and offset. Maybe that will help get an answer
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:38 PM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

Not a problem. From my above link:
"Kyowa KR523 20 in wheels black with machine lip. 5 x 120 bolt pattern, 38 mm offset. Tires are Toyo Proxes 255/50"
I checked the configuration out online, and it appeared to be okay. The assembly fits fine. There's no rubbing anywhere. Not even close. Also, the Honda techs looked for fit and clearance.
The shop that I first took the tires to had to break them down to install the tire pressure indicaters. Seems like they would have seen anything foreign, but I can't be sure.
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:41 PM
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Not a problem. From my above link:
"Kyowa KR523 20 in wheels black with machine lip. 5 x 120 bolt pattern, 38 mm offset. Tires are Toyo Proxes 255/50"
I checked the configuration out online, and it appeared to be okay. The assembly fits fine. There's no rubbing anywhere. Not even close. Also, the Honda techs looked for fit and clearance.
The shop that I first took the tires to had to break them down to install the tire pressure indicaters. Seems like they would have seen anything foreign, but I can't be sure.
yeah, probably not that then. try and run your old wheels and see if you can recreate and if not you know it will be directly related to wheels. Beyond that I am no help
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:06 AM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

Have you tried what they call roadforce balancing ?
I know that only 2 shops in the Omaha area have this specific machine.
It balances larger wheels and tires at higher speeds. Maybe this would help.
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Old 07-16-2006, 07:49 AM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

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Not a problem. From my above link:
"Kyowa KR523 20 in wheels black with machine lip. 5 x 120 bolt pattern, 38 mm offset. Tires are Toyo Proxes 255/50"
I checked the configuration out online, and it appeared to be okay. The assembly fits fine. There's no rubbing anywhere. Not even close. Also, the Honda techs looked for fit and clearance.
The shop that I first took the tires to had to break them down to install the tire pressure indicaters. Seems like they would have seen anything foreign, but I can't be sure.
I know very little about wheels, but Honda parts department mentioned that even though a wheel fits (RL = BMW bolt pattern) the wheel itself may not be rated for the weight of our SUT and that I need to stick to Sport Utility/truck wheels.

Have you looked up the design specs of the Kyowa KR523 wheels to see if they were designed for car or truck applications?

I looked at these wheels myself, but was torn over chrome/black & Michelin tires. I also was seriously concerned with why someone would pull a beautiful set of rims off their RL. I've read that after market wheels can be a problem.

Also, had a problem with my Bridgestone tires wearing strange, but only on one front - truck was balanced, aligned, a few times. Turns out the tire was just slightly off - nothing you would see and no shop ever said anything, I just kept on top of the rotation until time to change wheels.

Good luck with the Rims/Tires - hope you resolve the problem.

May have searched wrong, but it looks like the only post by gixer03 was in relation to selling this set of wheels and tires.

Was checking to see if he posted a complaint - nothing against gixer - just was checking when I was thinking about this set of wheels

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Old 07-16-2006, 08:46 AM
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Re: Whel balance problem?

I'm also a little suspicious of "hit and run" posters who come only to sell, so I checked him out as best as I could. Didn't find anything negative. I also talked to him and he seemed straightforward enough. He does live in the Los Angeles area, though.
He did show me something inside the hub, which I just learned (from ChrisM) are probably hubcentric rings, which he said are important to the performance of the wheels. I'll have the techs check when I take it in.
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Re: Whel balance problem?

Hope its something minor and that everything works out - nice looking rims!

I know I'm going with 20's and am actually leaning towards black over chrome now just due to the contrast and the fact that there is sooooo very much chrome on the road.....
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