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Old 04-15-2007, 11:50 AM
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Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

Has anyone used AMSOIL SYNTHETIC OIl in any of their engines. I seen this oil on the internet and they say their product blows everything away, and you only change your oil every 25k or once a year. I would like some feed back on this product. Thanks.
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

I have used amsoil since 1978 in every vehicle I have owned. It works great and is not cheap,there is no place local to buy it so the added $7.00 a case shipping puts the price way up there. In my 1990 Thunderbird I did the once a year oil change but I did change the filter and add a QT every 5000 miles. I sould the car with 73,000 miles no problems. You can buy Mobil 1 any place so know I just use the Mobil 1 and change it every 5000 miles.
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Old 04-15-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

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Has anyone used AMSOIL SYNTHETIC OIl in any of their engines. I seen this oil on the internet and they say their product blows everything away, and you only change your oil every 25k or once a year. I would like some feed back on this product. Thanks.
I will not get into the debate on Amsoil's claims, but there are two facts you need to keep in mind:

#1 Amsoil's fully synthetic oils are not API Certified and do not meet the requirements for your Ridgeline.

#2 Extended drain intervals, regardless of brand, can and probably will cause any oil related failure warranty claims to be denied.

If your Ridgeline is out of warranty (over 60,000 miles) or you don't care about the warranty then feel free to use any oil you want. If you are under warranty and expect Honda to stand behind the warranty then we should use products that meet their specifications.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:22 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

In regards to Amsoil, it would be nice if people would know the facts before they speak.
#1 Amsoil's fully synthetic oils are not API Certified and do not meet the requirements for your Ridgeline.
All Amsoil oils for auto and truck use are API certified (its on the front of the label) and in fact, when in 2004 they changed it from API SL to API SM, Amsoil already met the API requirements.

#2 Extended drain intervals, regardless of brand, can and probably will cause any oil related failure warranty claims to be denied.In the 35 years of Amsoil motor oil, there has not been one motor failure due to the extended oil change interval. Amsoil oil, if properly filtered, will last easily to the 25,000 mile, but it is recommended to change it at 25,000 or 1 year. If you look at Mobil 1, they have a 15,000 mile oil, but there are all sort of restrictions that really limit it to less than 15,000 miles. Mobil 1 along with many other "synthetic" oils are not true synthetic oil. They are synthesized oil which means they are a highly refined petroleum oil and meet API standards for "synthetic oil." However, Amsoil 25,000 miles is a true PAO synthetic oil.

http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/d...._vs_mobil1.htm

http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/d....il_testing.htm

There is a pest control company that uses Amsoil and drives their trucks easily over 200,000 miles with no problems with their engines. In fact one engine was torn down to see what wear had taken place. What was found was the engine was clean, no sludge at all, and in fact most of the hatching on the cylinder walls was still there. In other words, the engine still had a lot of good miles left in it.
Another story, proven story, a long haul tractor trailer rig went 409,000 miles with out changing his oil. At the usual 20,000 mile intervals (standard for most trucks) the owner had the oil analyzed and the report came back good. He changed his filter and topped off the oil. When the motor was torn down and inspected at over 600,000 miles, the parts were well with in specs and most of the parts were reinstalled and did not even need cleaning.
In encourage you to check into your facts before sharing your thoughts. All things I have written are verifiable and proven.
Amsoil will not void any warranty. If you keep the oil clean, the oil will not cause engine failure or premature engine oil.
Feel free to email and I will share the information that will verify what I said.
Good day to you all.
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:48 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

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In regards to Amsoil, it would be nice if people would know the facts before they speak.
#1 Amsoil's fully synthetic oils are not API Certified and do not meet the requirements for your Ridgeline.
All Amsoil oils for auto and truck use are API certified (its on the front of the label) and in fact, when in 2004 they changed it from API SL to API SM, Amsoil already met the API requirements.

#2 Extended drain intervals, regardless of brand, can and probably will cause any oil related failure warranty claims to be denied.In the 35 years of Amsoil motor oil, there has not been one motor failure due to the extended oil change interval. Amsoil oil, if properly filtered, will last easily to the 25,000 mile, but it is recommended to change it at 25,000 or 1 year. If you look at Mobil 1, they have a 15,000 mile oil, but there are all sort of restrictions that really limit it to less than 15,000 miles. Mobil 1 along with many other "synthetic" oils are not true synthetic oil. They are synthesized oil which means they are a highly refined petroleum oil and meet API standards for "synthetic oil." However, Amsoil 25,000 miles is a true PAO synthetic oil.

http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/d...._vs_mobil1.htm

http://www.synthetic-oil-tech.com/d....il_testing.htm

There is a pest control company that uses Amsoil and drives their trucks easily over 200,000 miles with no problems with their engines. In fact one engine was torn down to see what wear had taken place. What was found was the engine was clean, no sludge at all, and in fact most of the hatching on the cylinder walls was still there. In other words, the engine still had a lot of good miles left in it.
Another story, proven story, a long haul tractor trailer rig went 409,000 miles with out changing his oil. At the usual 20,000 mile intervals (standard for most trucks) the owner had the oil analyzed and the report came back good. He changed his filter and topped off the oil. When the motor was torn down and inspected at over 600,000 miles, the parts were well with in specs and most of the parts were reinstalled and did not even need cleaning.
In encourage you to check into your facts before sharing your thoughts. All things I have written are verifiable and proven.
Amsoil will not void any warranty. If you keep the oil clean, the oil will not cause engine failure or premature engine oil.
Feel free to email and I will share the information that will verify what I said.
Good day to you all.
Let's deal with facts. I'm not interested in worthless and irrelevant hyperbole spewed by some cult.

#1 You said, "All Amsoil oils for auto and truck use are API certified (its on the front of the label) and in fact, when in 2004 they changed it from API SL to API SM, Amsoil already met the API requirements." You first need to learn the difference between an API Certified oil and one that claims to meet an API service level. Honda requires the use of API Certified motor oils. Amsoil fully synthetic motor oils are not API Certified. You may verify this at the API web site if you choose to learn the truth: http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseI...LicenseNo=0995

#2 What you or someone else thinks about extended drain intervals is a waste of time. The fact is that Honda does not permit extended drain intervals regardless of the oil you use. Here's what the Ridgeline Owner's Manual says on the subject. It is clear and not subject to debate:

"Synthetic Oil
You may use a synthetic motor oil if
it meets the same requirements
given for a conventional motor oil: it
displays the API Certification Seal,
and it is the proper weight. You must
follow the oil and filter change
intervals shown on the information
display."

So to review your first statement, "In regards to Amsoil, it would be nice if people would know the facts before they speak." I agree 100%. Please take your own advice.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:06 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

First off...check the following site: Bobistheoilguy.com (BITOG.COM). It will answer ALL of your questions regarding oils, greases, whatevers. If you can't find your subject in a search just ask and someone will answer up. Believe me, it works! These guys eat, drink and sleep lubricants and there's extensive info on synthetics, dinos, whatevers.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

Amsoil oils seem to be in line with the other synthetic oils. The issues of it not being certified may be bothersome, but I don't know what, if any, problem is keeping them from getting certified.

The main difference is that Amsoil is marketed similar to Amway or the like. This results in thousands of salespeople pushing the product. This results in a huge bias toward Amsoil and many, many websites saying that it is better. This is what some critics call the "cult" of amsoil.

I have used Amsoil in the past but once I started receiving all the marketing stuff trying to get me to sell to my friends I was turned off on the product and began to wonder if all the claims were more marketing hype then anything.

Personally I now use a synthetic oil from one of the major oil companies.
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Old 04-16-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

It appears to me that Amsoil is certified till August 2007 for their XL product in 10W-30, 5W-20, and 5W-30. What am I missing here?
I do see that Honda does not warrant extended interval changes.

I've used Amsoil in previous vehicles for the last 15 years or so with no failures but I won't be using it in my RL for the expense of changing it out with the MM intervals.
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Old 04-16-2007, 02:51 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

Thanks to all, for the interesting feedback, on this product.I got to tell ya it's up in the air for me. Hey Whaleya, Just for information purposes what synthetic oil do you use, and how often do you change it?
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: Amsoil Synthetic Oil Has Anyone Used It

Synthetic oils like Amsoil and Mobil 1 are way better than regular oil anytime. They are not subject to viscosity breakdown like "dino" oil is, handle hotter temperatures much better and last longer. In addition, you are not using petroleum based products and helping oil rich foreign countries.
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