pulstarplug

[bhaith]

Has anyone used/heard of these before?

The Pulstar™ Pulse Plug is not just another spark plug!

snake oil?

[csimo]

Has anyone tried these yet?

Scam.

Junk.

Ripoff.

[ChrisM]

Joe said it all.

There is nothing to add.

May this thread gently drift to the bottom of the thread pile.

Buh Bye!

[alexander]

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Joe said it all.

There is nothing to add.

May this thread gently drift to the bottom of the thread pile.

Buh Bye!

the same arguement people had with platinum and iridium plugs which are standard goods now.

I've seen these tested firsthand and make enough of a gain to warrant them on a 4cyl and have added these in my growing list of too adds this year.

[csimo]

Originally Posted by alexander

the same arguement people had with platinum and iridium plugs which are standard goods now.

Baloney!!! Show me an automotive engineer that was against platinum and/or iridium tipped spark plugs. We were begging for more exotic materials decades before you were even born. To make such unfounded claims is nothing more to a slap in the face of people that dedicated their lives to real improvements rather than just ripping people off with nonsense.

To compare Pulstar type snake oil plugs to platinum or iridium tipped plugs is insane.

Some people are just suckers for gimmicks... apparently a lot of people. It's sad.

[Andy-Montreal]

Originally Posted by alexander

the same arguement people had with platinum and iridium plugs which are standard goods now.

Let's not forget how the Gen-I Bosch platinum spark plugs were a fouling nightmare.....

[csimo]

Keep in mind that using platinum or iridium tipped spark plugs is primarily for longevity and durability... not increased efficiency.

[alexander]

Originally Posted by csimo

Baloney!!! Show me an automotive engineer that was against platinum and/or iridium tipped spark plugs. We were begging for more exotic materials decades before you were even born. To make such unfounded claims is nothing more to a slap in the face of people that dedicated their lives to real improvements rather than just ripping people off with nonsense.

To compare Pulstar type snake oil plugs to platinum or iridium tipped plugs is insane.

Some people are just suckers for gimmicks... apparently a lot of people. It's sad.

I'm talking about people of message boards........

And to be honest with you I'll take dyno runs over your oppinion.

[rdharper]

Originally Posted by alexander

And to be honest with you I'll take dyno runs over your oppinion.

The idea of sharping the Q on the pulse with a capacitor is worth considering. There would be an optimum shape to the curve. Of course there is already a capacitive (and inductive) component in the circuit.... I see little point in moving one of the components to the the delivery point, as the impedance from the pulse-shaping circuitry to the tips is insignificant.

To assume that sharper is automatically better is probably wrong. The same amount of energy will be delivered, minus any loss in the added capacitor. Seems to me all you'd get is a slight change in timing. The shape of that curve is more controlled by the ignition circuit in any event.

A simple dyno test proves not much, other than that the plug produces a spark. The results taken on a souped up Dodge neon were within measurement accuracy... and certainly don't prove anything.

I'd be more likely to pay attention if they show an advantage on the race track... or the drag strip. The engineers would have taken the time to integrate the plug into their tuner design. Even then I'd have to know the nature of the financial support (kickback) being provided to the team.

Claims of paying for themselves in a year are ridiculous.

So in summary, it makes no sense design-wise, is supported by poorly designed and reported tests, and makes claims that are patently ridiculous to anyone that can do simple math.

In short, these capacitive plugs are very likely a scam, as csimo says.

The "look what I've got factor" might be worth a hundred bucks to some people. Me... I'm Scottish by design... and born in Missouri to boot.

[csimo]

Originally Posted by rdharper

The idea of sharping the Q on the pulse with a capacitor is worth considering. There would be an optimum shape to the curve. Of course there is already a capacitive (and inductive) component in the circuit.... I see little point in moving one of the components to the the delivery point, as the impedance from the pulse-shaping circuitry to the tips is insignificant.

To assume that sharper is automatically better is probably wrong. The same amount of energy will be delivered, minus any loss in the added capacitor. Seems to me all you'd get is a slight change in timing. The shape of that curve is more controlled by the ignition circuit in any event.

A simple dyno test proves not much, other than that the plug produces a spark. The results taken on a souped up Dodge neon were within measurement accuracy... and certainly don't prove anything.

I'd be more likely to pay attention if they show an advantage on the race track... or the drag strip. The engineers would have taken the time to integrate the plug into their tuner design. Even then I'd have to know the nature of the financial support (kickback) being provided to the team.

Claims of paying for themselves in a year are ridiculous.

So in summary, it makes no sense design-wise, is supported by poorly designed and reported tests, and makes claims that are patently ridiculous to anyone that can do simple math.

In short, these capacitive plugs are very likely a scam, as csimo says.

The "look what I've got factor" might be worth a hundred bucks to some people. Me... I'm Scottish by design... and born in Missouri to boot.

Excellent post!

Thanks for being a voice of reason.