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Whats the measurements of the box. Want to know what the height is especially. I need to know that with for example a Bakflip MX4 what the measurement would at the opening with the tail gate down?

I need to know if these Actionpacker Boxes will fit in there? Height measurements on these are 17 inches. I measured them again and they are exactly 16 3/4 "
 

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So are some tonneau covers going to decrease the height? I'm assuming one that sits on top of the bed box might work better. Even if I had to flip or lift the cover to remove the boxes it might work. Right now in my truck I can pull them out without doing anything to the cover. The cover might need a little flex in it but still seal tightly.
 

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Whats the measurements of the box. Want to know what the height is especially. I need to know that with for example a Bakflip MX4 what the measurement would at the opening with the tail gate down?

I need to know if these Actionpacker Boxes will fit in there? Height measurements on these are 17 inches.
The measurements from other posts indicate the bed height is 16.75 inches (much lower than Gen 1 Ridgeline). Given this bed height measurement, the Actionpacker Boxes most likely will not fit under a BakFlip tonneau cover. Not only is it a quarter of an inch short, but if the MX4 is like my F1 cover, the latching mechanism under the tonneau cover takes up some space as well. Even on my Gen 1 Ridgeline, I have had to turn some containers sideways to fit them between the latching mechanisms of the F1 cover.

The best way to answer this is to take one of containers to a Honda dealership and sit it in the bed and see if it's too high.

I hope this helps.


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The measurements from other posts indicate the bed height is 16.75 inches (much lower than Gen 1 Ridgeline). Given this bed height measurement, the Actionpacker Boxes most likely will not fit under a BakFlip tonneau cover. Not only is it a quarter of an inch short, but if the MX4 is like my F1 cover, the latching mechanism under the tonneau cover takes up some space as well. Even on my Gen 1 Ridgeline, I have had to turn some containers sideways to fit them between the latching mechanism of the F1 cover.

The best way to answer this is to take one of containers to a Honda dealership and sit it in the bed and see if it's too high.

I hope this helps.


Dan
Ya the measurement is pretty tight. I would have thought the bed height would have been a little bit higher. That sucks :crying:
 

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Re: 2017 Box Measurements

The measurements from other posts indicate the bed height is 16.75 inches (much lower than Gen 1 Ridgeline). Given this bed height measurement, the Actionpacker Boxes most likely will not fit under a BakFlip tonneau cover. Not only is it a quarter of an inch short, but if the MX4 is like my F1 cover, the latching mechanism under the tonneau cover takes up some space as well. Even on my Gen 1 Ridgeline, I have had to turn some containers sideways to fit them between the latching mechanism of the F1 cover.

The best way to answer this is to take one of containers to a Honda dealership and sit it in the bed and see if it's too high.

I hope this helps.


Dan
Low profile tonneaus, such as the trifolds from BAK, definitely steal the thickness of their panels from the cargo area of your bed. You might want to look at the Solid Fold 2.0 from Extang, which is about to come out, if this is a concern to you. Or the Honda tonneau. Both of them lie on top of the bed caps and don't take any space away from your bed other than a few places where rubber bits hang down.

One of the problems with measuring the Ridgeline bed is that it varies quite a bit depending upon where you measure it. I get 16 and 7/8 inches at the tailgate. But measure it under the rear window and it's going to be something else. I think 16 3/4 is a safe number. The same is true of the other dimensions. The box is roughly 5' x 5'. The thing that makes it 5'4" in length is mostly the indentation under the rear window. Your refrigerator won't fit in that indentation so it only applies to some cargo.
 

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So are some tonneau covers going to decrease the height? I'm assuming one that sits on top of the bed box might work better. Even if I had to flip or lift the cover to remove the boxes it might work. Right now in my truck I can pull them out without doing anything to the cover. The cover might need a little flex in it but still seal tightly.
Yes, some tonneau covers will decrease the height of what you can haul. On my BakFlip F1 cover, the latching mechanisms (near each hinge) sits lower than the top of the bed. If the MX4 uses the same system, then you may need to see if the containers can fit between the latching mechanisms (containers would sit left to right vs front to back). This may also limit the number of containers you can haul as well.

You can call BakFlip and they should be able to answers some of these questions for you.


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Too bad somebody doesn't design a tonneau that sits on top of rails that sit on top of the bed rails. Thone rails can be semi-permanently mounted, allowing quick removal of a tonneau that sits on top of them.

Thinking that through....maybe someone should just design some solid accessory rails that sit on top of the bed rails. These rails could even add a few inches to the bed height and provide a watertight seal for tonneau covers, or attachment for a variety of other accessories. I could see a market there.
 

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I know Honda dosent make there own tonneau covers. So who makes this style? Its sitting on top of the bed rails.
 

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I know Honda dosent make there own tonneau covers. So who makes this style? Its sitting on top of the bed rails.
It's looks almost exactly like the Solid Fold 2.0 from Extang. But several of us believe that it was built by Advantage Covers, a sister company to Extang that focuses on OEM production and sales. We think they borrowed the Solid Fold 2.0 design and built it themselves.
 

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Too bad somebody doesn't design a tonneau that sits on top of rails that sit on top of the bed rails. Thone rails can be semi-permanently mounted, allowing quick removal of a tonneau that sits on top of them.

Thinking that through....maybe someone should just design some solid accessory rails that sit on top of the bed rails. These rails could even add a few inches to the bed height and provide a watertight seal for tonneau covers, or attachment for a variety of other accessories. I could see a market there.
The other night we found a company that makes a soft cover with the rails on the top of the bed caps. The company is called Gator Covers and the product is called the SR1. Unfortunately, I found out that they have no plans to make it available to the 2017 Ridgeline. I was looking for exclusively soft covers because that's what Max73 wants. Gator does a lot of relabeling of existing Truck Hero tonneaus. I know all the hardcovers and I don't believe there is one that has a rail on top of the bed caps. But you don't need the rail in order to solve the problem brought up here about stealing cargo space by having things protrude down into the bed from the tonneau. The Extang Solid Fold 2.0 is your best bet. It's not available yet for the Ridgeline but they have promised over and over again that it will be and they have said recently that it will be very soon.
 

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Low profile tonneaus, such as the trifolds from BAK, definitely steal the thickness of their panels from the cargo area of your bed. You might want to look at the Solid Fold 2.0 from Extang, which is about to come out, if this is a concern to you. Or the Honda tonneau. Both of them lie on top of the bed caps and don't take any space away from your bed other than a few places where rubber bits hang down.

One of the problems with measuring the Ridgeline bed is that it varies quite a bit depending upon where you measure it. I get 16 and 7/8 inches at the tailgate. But measure it under the rear window and it's going to be something else. I think 16 3/4 is a safe number. The same is true of the other dimensions. The box is roughly 5' x 5'. The thing that makes it 5'4" in length is mostly the indentation under the rear window. Your refrigerator won't fit in that indentation so it only applies to some cargo.
The 2.0 looks good but I think I need an option where it can lock up against the rear window with all 3 panels folded or maybe a retract maybe.
 

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Yes, some tonneau covers will decrease the height of what you can haul. On my BakFlip F1 cover, the latching mechanisms (near each hinge) sits lower than the top of the bed. If the MX4 uses the same system, then you may need to see if the containers can fit between the latching mechanisms (containers would sit left to right vs front to back). This may also limit the number of containers you can haul as well.

You can call BakFlip and they should be able to answers some of these questions for you.
I've been looking seriously at the MX4 myself and I can tell you that the F1 and MX4 latch mechanisms are identical. And this has given me some pause about the MX4. Understand that all the BAKflip tonneaus are low-profile, which means they sit between the bed rails not on top of them, so they are already the thickness of the panel down into your cargo area. Add the latch mechanism, which I'm guessing is 1-1/2 inches in height, and you are seriously diminishing the usable storage area. I believe the MX4 panel is 1/2 inch thick. Dan, can you measure the height of the latch?
 

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It's looks almost exactly like the Solid Fold 2.0 from Extang. But several of us believe that it was built by Advantage Covers, a sister company to Extang that focuses on OEM production and sales. We think they borrowed the Solid Fold 2.0 design and built it themselves.
Dealer wants an arm and a leg for this OEM one:surprise:
 

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Dealer wants an arm and a leg for this OEM one:surprise:
Can you install it yourself? They really charge you a lot when you buy it directly inside the dealership. If you buy it online, from the same dealership, it's a lot cheaper. BernardiParts.com has it for 700 bucks. I got mine at Hondavillageparts.com for in the $600s. The catch is that they charge you an arm and leg for shipping. Both of those two dealers have shipping promotions though if you look closely that apply especially to the higher ticket items.

This has to be about the easiest tonneau to install that they make. It takes 10 to 15 minutes to install and most of that time is just pushing it here and nudging it there to get it square on your bed before you clamp it down. You do need a Torx 30 wrench or bit with a socket wrench. You can get that in the hand tool place, like Sears. That's for putting on the four brackets that go where the upper tiedowns are in the four corners of the bed.

If you can't install it yourself and you want the dealer to do it, shop around. You'll find vastly different prices for this product from dealers. It's a cinch for them to install and yet some of them will try to charge you 150 bucks for the installation on top of the $1000 list price. But others are smarter.
 

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The shallow depth of G1 bed at the tailgate was my number 1 pet peeve. I was very disappointed to discover that the G2 Ridgeline continued this trend, and it's the primary reason I will not be replacing my G1 with a G2. I have the Honda tonneau on my G1, and I can't put my cooler that I use for camping under it. Have to sit it out on the tailgate with a bed extender. Sure, I could buy a shorter cooler, but it's not the only item I have problems fitting under there. Hopefully you can find a good solution that will allow you to store what you need in that shallow depth. For me the solution will be a new Colorado (over 20" deep bed) when my G1 finally wears out.
 

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The 2.0 looks good but I think I need an option where it can lock up against the rear window with all 3 panels folded or maybe a retract maybe.
That's the essential trade-off between these two types of hard folding tonneaus. Folding up to the window pretty much requires rails. (Or at least that's been the case up until now.) And pretty much any manufacturer who puts in rails is making a low profile design nowadays because that's what selling. In most pickup trucks it doesn't matter. I think it's Chevy that has 20 inches of height and Ford has like 23 or something. The Ridgeline has the shallowest bed on the market. So we really have to pay attention to this.

I've owned two Solid Folds. All I can tell you is that I never missed the ability to tilt up to the back window. I always found some way to load my cargo into the two thirds of an opening that the Honda tonneau and the Extang Solid Fold 2.0 give you. Here's the part that you might not be thinking about though: these are also the easiest tonneaus to remove. Need the whole bed? No problem take the tonneau out in 10 to 15 minutes. There won't be any pesky rails left behind either to clog up the works or get damaged by your cargo. You'll have full bed access. That's the selling point for me. When I realize that I can basically have my cake and eat it too, I wind up going back to the simplest of designs. No rails, no rain tubes to find a way to drain out of your bed either.

Caveat: we don't know yet how Extang is going to attach the Solid Fold 2.0 to the Ridgeline's bed. They may add a very rudimentary rail. Probably not, because the Honda tonneau doesn't. But until we see what Extang is going to do, we won't know for sure.
 

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The shallow depth of G1 bed at the tailgate was my number 1 pet peeve. I was very disappointed to discover that the G2 Ridgeline continued this trend, and it's the primary reason I will not be replacing my G1 with a G2. I have the Honda tonneau on my G1, and I can't put my cooler that I use for camping under it. Have to sit it out on the tailgate with a bed extender. Sure, I could buy a shorter cooler, but it's not the only item I have problems fitting under there. Hopefully you can find a good solution that will allow you to store what you need in that shallow depth. For me the solution will be a new Colorado (over 20" deep bed) when my G1 finally wears out.
The Colorado is a nice truck. The thing that steered me away from the Colorado was the narrow bed with big wheel wells, which makes it hard to put anything wide in the bed. For my uses, the width and flatness of the Ridgeline made the bed more usable. I also really liked the Ridgeline bed is longer than the short-bed Colorado, but not as limousine-ish as a longbed.

Have you tried putting a cooler in the Ridgeline's trunk?
 

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Have you tried putting a cooler in the Ridgeline's trunk?
I built a custom tool box that fits in the trunk for organized storage of tools, a 6 ton jack, jumper cables, extra wiper fluid and antifreeze, winter survival kit, etc. Doesn't leave much room for a cooler! No doubt I will miss the trunk when I move on to a different truck, but the shallow bed on the G2 Ridge is a deal-breaker for me (as is the dash that looks like it came straight out of my wife's 2007 Accord, but don't get me started on that!)
 

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I built a custom tool box that fits in the trunk for organized storage of tools, a 6 ton jack, jumper cables, extra wiper fluid and antifreeze, winter survival kit, etc. Doesn't leave much room for a cooler! No doubt I will miss the trunk when I move on to a different truck, but the shallow bed on the G2 Ridge is a deal-breaker for me (as is the dash that looks like it came straight out of my wife's 2007 Accord, but don't get me started on that!)
Yeah I wish I could mix and match some of the features of all of the mid-size trucks to create my own perfect truck. I like the styling of the Canyon actually, but a Canyon with leather seats and 4-doors is over $40k.

I actually thought the Colorado's interior seemed a bit cheap for a relatively expensive vehicle. The cloth seats were ugly to me, and the dash seemed pretty chintzy. Hopefully they improved some of that in the new models.
 
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