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2017 with 140k miles not shifting into overdrive gears!!

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So I've had the tranny judder issue in the past which was "fixed" with 3x DF... and recently, in the last maybe 20k or so miles, have had some hard shifting, so did another 3x DF which seemed to "fix" the issue.

Well, today, after about 220 miles of freeway driving, I pulled over to fuel up and get some snacks. Getting back onto the freeway I quickly realized that the truck would not shift into overdrive as it just sat at ~3000rpm at ~60mph and did not shift. No error messages on the display. So took the next exit, stopped, and restarted truck. Problem went away.

Dog decided she needed a potty break just 10 minutes after getting back on the road, so exited and shut down the truck for about 5 minutes. When I went to merge back onto the freeway, same issue with not shifting into OD once up to speed and thus I took the next exit and restarted the truck. Went another 30 miles or so and reached my second to last destination of the evening with no issue.

Will be plugging in the scanguage for the last 50 miles of the trip... but any ideas what might be going on? Could this be one of the pressure switches I've been reading about on here?
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Maybe but like mentioned the only way to know for sure is to get a live scanner in the truck diagnosing it as it won't set faults.
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Hope you make it home. I would imagine you are looking at a new transmission. This one has gone to the end of the line for you. On the good side it made it to 140k. That's more than a lot of people have gotten out of them.
Well prepared. Very nice writeup too. I wanna marry you!
How could they turn you down on the lifetime warranty. You have more records than they do for any vehicles brought into their shop!
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You could get a sample of that fluid out of the transmission and send it in for analysis. That would say a lot of the condition of the inside of the trans right now. If they find metal in it it's toast. If not then a valve body might do it. You just never know.
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I'd trade it to a dealer for another. They will send it to the auction. I doubt you'd be the first ever to trade in a broken car. If it's working ok when traded then it's working ok. If it breaks a 1000mi later that's just how it goes in used cars.
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Swing by when they are draining the fluid out of the old one. Get a sample of the fluid in a small bottle (Walmart has small plastic bottles for cheap), I'll pay for the analysis. This is important if we actually want to know something about these failures. Your call but I'm putting the pressure on. Help us all out here.
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Yeah, if driven around some it'll mix up any dilution and dirt possibly added and make it more "normal" to the reference of the rest of the oil in there. A sample will still say a lot about the fluid. If you'd like to avoid any public commenting about any of our discussions you can just use the "conversation" feature to get the sample portion done and handled.

edit: Worthless ? Maybe they don't want proof that Honda's transmissions have screw ups ? Odd comment really.
Because yours isn't a warranty job they don't have to get the reman from Honda's source. They are free to get from any number of remanufacturers. A brief look at several leads me to Jasper which has a 100,000mi and 3 year warranty on their remans. They have been known around here to be the Premium supplier for Engine remans in the past. But their warranty states the obvious. They stand behind the reman job. You should ask where they are getting it from. And ask for the address they return it to. That'll tell you a lot of where it came from and who is rebuilding yours.
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Good advice, replace your trans fluid and take a sample and send it out for analysis. That will tell you far more about the state of your transmission currently than guessing how it is.
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Wow, I can't wait to see these results !

If I ever get out to Seattle to our site there I'm going to buy you some beers (or the like)!

Thanks for sending that in!
Steve
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The only way we'd ever find out what is the real problem is a class action lawsuit against Honda and as part of that would be a subpoena to get the failure data and numbers. Otherwise no one will ever figure it out unless we have a disgruntled employee there who publishes it on the web. (never happen)
And rebuilds do fail also. Not uncommon as it is a rebuilt transmission not new.
I'm trying that for you. lol The long term test ! Amsoil snake oil in the trans !
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They can say what they want but if a fluid meets all the specs as Amsoil does then there's no way they can deny a warranty claim.
Check out the Amsoil site and tell me it doesn't. Looks to me like it does based on their comments. Dunno for sure as I haven't tested it myself and am no chemical analyst. Just a user lol.
Probably not but Honda isn't exactly stepping up and helping either. lol

I'm staying the course. What I know about transmissions helps me to keep mine going as long as possible based on that knowledge. As for the fluid. If the Group 4 base stock is of a higher quality lubricant then as the additives wear out it should keep the seals from rolling since there wouldn't be any help from the additives in DW-1 after it's worn.
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