[quickshoe]

The traffic jam and stop and go will kill that mileage in a heartbeat.

Next time you find yourself driving around and there isn't any traffic at all....fill it up. Get on the freeway. Drive 65-70mph for 20 miles or so, turn around and come back to the same pump and top it off.

Total mileage / gallons utilized = see what you get. That will let you know if you have a problem or not.

 

[quickshoe]

True, but that's G1 Territory for MPG, Completely unacceptable.



You do realize he's in Southern California, that rarely happens, like "RARELY EVER"

It's also Honda Fit territory when it takes you 2 hours to get from LAX to the 105/605 with the A/C on full blast.

Yep. I "drive" in it every single day. I don't know where in OC he is. I would suggest the 241, but too damn hilly to get a true picture. It's all about time of night he gives this a shot.

The vehicle rarely getting above 3rd gear in the trans and spending 33% of it's time idling at a dead stop isn't going to give you any idea if something's wrong.