The rail system installed via the existing torx bolts looks like a reasonable alternative to the typical C clamp install and one that would be easy to copy by BAK or whoever, but I still have concerns about the in-bed trunk opening. It will be nice to see what others come up with.I think this is the first official aftermarket tonneau to come to market for the '17 RL
Truck Tonneau Covers | ACCESS Original Roll Up Tonneau Cover
The rail system installed via the existing torx bolts looks like a reasonable alternative to the typical C clamp install and one that would be easy to copy by BAK or whoever, but I still have concerns about the in-bed trunk opening. It will be nice to see what others come up with.
I'm blown away that I never checked those three covers. It's been on my list to do that for weeks. This is fabulous news; it means that solutions are possible. No it's not ideal but it's a whole lot better than what we were facing before.I spoke with access tech support today and they said the rails do not allow the trunk to open fully. They claim that the trunk will open 85 to 90%. Still waiting on my ridgeline to show up, so not sure if that would be workable or not.
I have had the same thought about the narrowing of the channel just at that point where the lid opens through it and I think it could work.Exactly this. I was looking at how easy it would be to use these bolts for mounting just the other day. The rail on the access cover definitely looks too wide to allow full opening of the trunk based on the instructions.
Since the widest part of the trunk cover only passes through an area a foot or so long it seems someone could design a rail that narrows in that area. I envision a hard folding cover that simply doesn't latch in that region and gets a little support from the rail. On a Bak it would just need to be wide enough for the gutter. This would of course require additional design work as opposed to just resizing what already exists so unfortunately it may not happen.
Good info. I remember the opening size 'intrusion' the rails on the G1 caused with the Extang Trifecta. I think if Extang (or others) make the traditional canvas/vinyl TRI-FOLD everyone might be OK.Checking out Access Cover's claim that the trunk lid will open 85% to 90%
Sorry about the blizzard of posts here. But I thought I'd pass along what I see as the truth on the opening of the trunk lid with permanently installed gutter rails above it. I measured the inside opening of the unencumbered trunk lid from the lower edge of the trunk lip down to floor height. I get 27.5 inches. Then I closed my over-the-rail tonneau cover and remeasured the same thing and I get 16.75 inches. That's about 60% open, even less than I expected. Most tonneaus that require rails are probably being installed between the bed rails, flush with their top, which means they hang down into the bed an inch or two. That would reduce the height of the opening further. (To be fair, it looks as if tops of most of Access Cover's vinyl tonneaus don't, in fact, sit flush with the bed rails but protrude upwards, like an over-the-rail tonneau.)
I just want to clear up the claim that the trunk lid will open 85% to 90% with the Access Cover tonneaus. I'm sure that was just an honest estimate on their part. I thought it was 75% to 80%. What these numbers tell me is that, for me, this compromise isn't going to work.
Hey how you doing? From what I can tell, the trifecta is essentially the soft version of the Solid Fold. It goes on top of the bed wall tops (a.k.a. bed rails), does not require a rail system of any sort and will not interfere with the trunk lid since it's a trifold without rails.Since you look at it more as an owner and have done 'testing', what are your thoughts on the potential for decent sealing with a 'traditional' SOFT trifold? I know Extang Trifectas hooked under the lip are pretty much 100% waterproof (a trickle might get in somewhere if you go through an automatic car wash - otherwise perfect). It was more or less the same 'near waterproof' case with the Trifecta and rails on the G1.
Currently I have the standard Extang thumbwheel style front clamps and spring loaded rear clamps (per below). Same were used in the G1 rail system. Provides excellent clamping force, even with the spring loaded. As you noted, however, it depends on what type of bracket Extang comes up with. A lip or L-shaped rail like the G1 system insures a tight fit...Hey how you doing? From what I can tell, the trifecta is essentially the soft version of the Solid Fold. It goes on top of the bed wall tops (a.k.a. bed rails), does not require a rail system of any sort and will not interfere with the trunk lid since it's a trifold without rails.
My only hesitance with this is that since we don't have a rail system involved and there's no apparent possibility for solid C clamp attachment, what attachment system are they using? Something that makes use of those three Torx bolts on either side of the bed and not just the tiedowns in the corners would get my vote. I've owned three or four vinyl tonneaus, and I've never had very good luck with sealing out the elements with them. I think they are lighter overall, and the weight matters. The heavier the tonneau I think the more likely you are to get a watertight seal. You can make up for that with excellent mounting and clamping, but that's precisely what the G2 doesn't offer very well. It desperately needs open boxed C-rails at the top of the bed to give us clamp access. So, without seeing what Extang might come up with for attachment, that would be my only reservation.
Hey, please, dispute my findings! I just took a look and you're right. I took some rough measurements and did a little fast math, and I was wrong. Access Cover's estimate that the trunk lid will open 85% to 90% of the way – assuming that their roll-up vinyl tonneau is part way open — is most likely right.Unfortunately I am still waiting on my ridgeline to show up. Looking at pictures of the trunk, it appears that the narrower rear section of the trunk lid should clear the access rails. So in essence some of the trunk lid should be above the rails while in the open position. Again I can't verify this, but I'm assuming that's where access is getting their 85-90% claim. Not trying to dispute your findings, just being optimistic. I am a contractor and need to have better resistance to water than the OEM cover provides.
The more options the better.Although there aren't that many details about this, an ROC member reports having talked to Bak recently and been told that the G2 would be in production for the 2017 Ridgeline in the October/November timeframe. See this thread:
That's a good price w/shipping. I priced out the same thing at Bernardi and it was over $100 for shipping.College Hills Honda $844 shipped OEM cover and instructions:
Hard Tonneau Cover* - 08Z07-T6Z-100 - College Hills Honda.