Data from J.D. Power's Vehicle Dependability Study suggests otherwise. According to them, around 2010 was the most reliable model year for the industry and around 2011 was the most reliable for Honda since this study began. It appears Hondas since around the 2016 model year have been experiencing more problems than the industry average.I think vehicles produced between the mid-90s and 2009 were a peak for automotive reliablity over the long term. The manufacturing processes were all improved to the point that they could handle the product's complexity. Given the exponential increase in automotive complexity over the past decade, reliability over the long term is slipping. The engine mounts alone are complex, multidiscipline engineering operations.
Thanks, Roger. That's interesting, but is it reliability over the long term?Data from J.D. Power's Vehicle Dependability Study suggests otherwise...
The Vehicle Dependability Study measures the number of problems experienced per 100 vehicles during the past 12 months by original owners of three-year-old model-year vehicles. For example, the 2019 study measures the number of problems in model year 2016 vehicles in their third year. This study is in contrast to their Initial Quality Study that counts the number of problems experienced in the first 90 days of ownership.Thanks, Roger. That's interesting, but is it reliability over the long term?
You got that right.. Loved my 01 Ranger for 16 years until my life style changed and the RL became the better choice. Cannot figure how Ford who has the best selling full size forever could not do the same with the Ranger. Yet Toyota cannot dent the Big 3 full size but dominates the midsize market. Zroger help please 🙏I have to agree
Part of the POS nature was the fact that Ford didn't update or improve them during the final 10 years of production. Lipstick on a pig doesn't count
Example: Me.I had a marketing professor way back say that the best predictive indicator for consumer behavior is prior purchase. How many G2 owners are graduating from a G1? How many consumers graduating from one Honda model to another? Unless someone has a really bad experience with a vehicle or brand, they will more likely than not prefer a repeat purchase, model or brand. The internal decision process is shorter due to trust through a prior experience - devil known is better than devil unknown. If circumstances change or someone has a bad experience and then they are willing to risk something different.
And I'm not interested in upgrading myself. Fortunately, my 2006 and 2008 are both still running reliably and without issue. Coming up on the first major mx event on the Ridge as I approach 120k miles.Example: Me.
I bought my first Honda in 2006 and had a run of great experiences - virtually no warranty repairs and top-notch resale value. This kept me coming back for more time and time again.
My last few Hondas have had more problems than any Ford, GM, or Chrysler I owned in the 80's and 90's. Sine my recent experience with my 2019 Ridgeline's transmission replacement, water leaks, and other problems, I've wanting to abandon the brand.
I remember how frustrated and flat out angry I was when my 1st new car, an 03 Dodge Dakota suffered from a multitude of issues. Dealers were no help what so-ever. What we have to remember is there are more Ridgeline owners than there are members of this forum, and we're only hearing gripes from a relatively small percentage of owners. I have a family member who is a 15+ year veteran Honda tech. He says that their while dealer does not sell very many RL's (next closest dealer outsells them 3-1), they have several 1st and 2nd gen service customers. When I've asked him about water leaks and some of the other issues ROC members have posted about, he said that while the early 1st gen's had a couple of common leaking points, he's not heard of any common water leaks with the 2nd gen. Common complaints with the 2nd gen. and Pilot are with the infotainment system and inconsistencies with the transmissions shifting. He said that the transmission's adaptive learning is usually the cause of inconsistencies and the infotainment system "just flat out sucks".And I'm not interested in upgrading myself. Fortunately, my 2006 and 2008 are both still running reliably and without issue. Coming up on the first major mx event on the Ridge as I approach 120k miles.
I honestly don't know what I'd buy today if I were forced into a situation where I had to replace my Ridgeline (or Pilot, for that matter).