Once again your courage to attempt is admirable. If my wife saw our truck taken apart like that, she would go through the roof.
My hat is off to you once again
My hat is off to you once again
Thanks vertrkr for the advice on the wireless sensors on the other thread.vertrkr said:I bought Guardian Alert doppler radar system for $299 here:
I got the Direct Connect 2 inch Trailer Hitch Mount Model 1601B. I installed the wiring when I did the camera so it was real easy to bring it in thru the back. If you want to do it this way follow the instructions for the camera install. Otherwise you'd have to run it under the body and come in thru the engine firewall.
The hitch mount was not a good fit as the spacing was off for their connectors into the Honda hitch reciever. Easily fixed by drilling new holes closer to the front on the sides which did not have any holes in them and I drilled closer to the front by 1 diameter of the existing holes, had to use the other side otherwise I would have ended up with a slot since the edge of the new hole would touch the older one. The piece I'm talking about is just the plastic piece that slides into the trailer hitch, really easy.
Then you have to tap into the reverse light wires for power. The reverse light green wire is hot and splices to the red wire. The orange wire is ground and splices to the black wire. Use a tap splice or solder directly which is what I did.
Not much else to it except running the wires.
Difference between radar & ultrasonic sonic sensors (like Honda offers). The radar system is not effected by wind, rain, dirt, works in all conditions unlike the ultrasonics. The radar also only detects moving objects so it won't go off unless you are moving or the object is moving towards you. This unit goes into full warning (constant audio tone) when you are 3 feet from an object. So then, the radar system isn't good if you are using it as a parking aid trying to squeeze out the last inch parallel parking. I don't know the minimum distance for the ultrasonics but they'd be better suited in this situation as a parking assistant. Read their promo material for more details on the differences.
I also have the rear camera so these two systems really work well together. I don't backup watching the camera screen, I only check it before I start out. If my radar sensor goes off then I'll stop and check the camera screen to see what's behind me. It's a great system and I have full confindence now when backing out I'll never hit anything unexpected. Specially since I live on the end of a culdesac and the there's about 12 kids always in the court playing games of sorts.
PS. the pic is a little deceiving making it look like it sticks out kinda far, it really only sticks out past the bumper by no more than an inch.
I checked out the site for the doppler radar kind. Sounds like a better system. Any shortcomings crop up yet?Originally Posted by vertrkr
Don't bother with the wireless ones, I bought them and put countless hours into them only to rip them out. Too many false signals and sometimes didn't work when they were supposed to. I'd say they had about a 50% reliability. Stick with the Honda ones or the radar hitch or bumper mount ones:
No shortcomings other than the enherent differences bewteen radar & ultrasonic as noted above in the 1st message, works just as advertised with excellent coverage and not one false alarm.HenryHonda said:Thanks vertrkr for the advice on the wireless sensors on the other thread.
I checked out the site for the doppler radar kind. Sounds like a better system. Any shortcomings crop up yet?
I also looked at the install instructions for the backup camera as you suggested above. I still have a problem about dismantling half the truck to run the wires into the cab.
I had an idea about running the wires inside the bed, along the underside of the RETRAX rails (ordering the cover soon) and mounting the Notification Display unit onto the bottom of the RETRAX cover canister near to the rear-sliding window.
Can you tell me how loud the warning buzzer is? Do you think I'd be able to hear it from inside the cab with or without opening the rear window?
Still working great, I love it. I have had the bumper skin off for other things and it should not be a problem to install that version, you might have to make a small cut out of the styrafoam that sits in the bumper but it should be doable.DLRidgeline said:Vertrkr,
That looks like a great product!
Now that it has been a few months, how is the Guardian Alert Backup Warning Device working out?
Did you choose the Trailer Hitch version because it was easier to install? While doing one of your many installs, have you ever had the bumper skin off and do you think there is enough room for the Bumper Mount version (or maybe it could be installed in the tailgate)? I looked under the vehicle and there does not seem to be any room between the crash bar (I think it’s the crash bar) and the bumper skin. I’m not sure if it would work through the crash bar (the metal piece attached to the bumper) and the bumper skin. It would be nice to have the device hidden.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Still working great, no problems, still think it's better than the ultra sonic sensors. The EZ Connect would be a little simplier for sure but the hardest part is still running the wires to inside the cab. Not complicated but just a pain in the butt as it takes a while to remove all those panels and rear seat.IwannaRidge said:Vertrkr, Thanks for the great information in this thread. This information convinced me to forego the OEM backup sensors in favor of the Gaurdian Alert. Just took delivery of my RTS on Tuesday night and I am eager to add backup sensors.
I do have a couple of questions. It has been a few months since your last report. Is your Guardian Alert sensor still working as expected? Also, I notice that there is a model that plugs into the wiring for the trailer hitch called the EZ Connect. Since I have no mechanical experience whatsoever, I thought that might be a better solution for me. Do you have any thoughts to offer about the pros and cons of the EZ Connect vs the Direct Connect? I believe I could follow instructions to install the Direct Connect if there is a good enough reason to do that vs the simpler EZ Connect. What do you think?
NO, I would NOT recommend those $99 wireless sensors. I found they had too many false readings meaning they beeped when they shouldn't and didn't beep when they should too many times.joeydinphilly said:vertrkr, I bought that $99.00 ultrasonic unit that you first installed, but have not installed it yet. Did you not like it? Should I not put it in? I'm already nervous about drilling the bumper. Any feed back you can give would be appreciated. I'm getting ready to do that and a number of other things this weekend. Thanks Joey d
Yes, very easy, takes about 10 seconds.Is the radar unit in the hitch easily to remove if you tow?