[ncbryan]

Thanks for everyone's comments. Now that I know that the car wash is bad on my paint what is the best way to get rid of the swirl marks going forward? Everyone have a favorite polish or wax. A co-worker suggested Maguires?


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[Lord Caedus]

That is a whole other ball game. Check out this video.

https://youtu.be/1-hr71oylIM

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[NSIDER]

As far as care, color is pretty much irrelevant with modern clear-coat finishes, other than making blemishes more noticeable due to a darker or lighter color under the clear. What you're taking care of is the clear, and it's all the same, no matter the color.

Hand washing is always best if you have the time & inclination. Machine washes will take their toll after so long. Your choice.

I've always liked Zaino Bros. products, though there are many quality brand products to choose from. Again, in this arena, input usually = output (results). Mostly comes down to your time, as most quality products aren't horribly expensive.

 

[Growl]

Everyone has their personal favorites, but for swirl marks I've always gone with Zaino.Z5. 4 coats of Z5 with a quick mist and dry of Z6 in between coats, then follow up with 4 coats of Z2 again with Z6 between coats. Top it off with a coat of Z8 and voila! You are good to go for 3 months with minimal maintenance washings and a quick mist of detailer.

My last 5 vehicles have all been black. More than a few hours of labor, but a lot of turned heads when you drive by. Worth the effort I think.

 

[Corey337]

What? Another RL in Laf?

I haven't taken my RL through , but thst one
does the best of the 3 big washes I have used in the past (the others being Freedom Wash on Kaliste Saloom and Gulf Breeze on Pinhook.) If I had a lighter color, I'd use any of them, but with my black RL, none...

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lol actually Opelousas here. I haven't seen another G2 around but I know all the local dealers sell the AWD's quick. Last vehicle was black, never again. This silver will be much easier to keep up.

 

[ncbryan]

So I took by BE to a detail shop today to get a quote on removing the swirl marks. The car wash that was the problem has a way to driver through without any brushes touching it and I am going to try that option to make sure the swirl marks don't come back.

The detail guy immediately said he knew what my problem was.....paint OVER SPRAY! He went to his shop and came back with a clay block and spray bottle and rubbed on my tailgate and the over spray was gone! I was close to my dealer so I went by there and spoke with my tech and the regional service manager happened to be there. Turns out the back tailgate of my truck has been painted and whomever did it, didn't do it right. The regional manager is going to look into the production of my truck and determine if there were any issues going through the assembly line. They believe it was damaged in transit and painted by the dealer that I bought the truck from. I called that dealer and questioned it and the sales manager wasn't there so they are going to call me back tomorrow. If you look VERY closely you can see some imperfections in the paint on the tailgate. The overs spray is on both rear quarter panels as well. The regional manager didn't recommend painting the entire truck again (although, he said that is one of my options) but did say that they would reimburse me for the work that the detail shop does to make it right which is $200. The detailer will get the swirl marks out of the paint but he won't get the paint imperfections completely out. If the dealer that I bought the truck from admits that they did paint the tailgate, I may have them take the tailgate off and repaint just the tailgate again. This is getting messy!

 

[Lord Caedus]

So I took by BE to a detail shop today to get a quote on removing the swirl marks. The car wash that was the problem has a way to driver through without any brushes touching it and I am going to try that option to make sure the swirl marks don't come back.

The detail guy immediately said he knew what my problem was.....paint OVER SPRAY! He went to his shop and came back with a clay block and spray bottle and rubbed on my tailgate and the over spray was gone! I was close to my dealer so I went by there and spoke with my tech and the regional service manager happened to be there. Turns out the back tailgate of my truck has been painted and whomever did it, didn't do it right. The regional manager is going to look into the production of my truck and determine if there were any issues going through the assembly line. They believe it was damaged in transit and painted by the dealer that I bought the truck from. I called that dealer and questioned it and the sales manager wasn't there so they are going to call me back tomorrow. If you look VERY closely you can see some imperfections in the paint on the tailgate. The overs spray is on both rear quarter panels as well. The regional manager didn't recommend painting the entire truck again (although, he said that is one of my options) but did say that they would reimburse me for the work that the detail shop does to make it right which is $200. The detailer will get the swirl marks out of the paint but he won't get the paint imperfections completely out. If the dealer that I bought the truck from admits that they did paint the tailgate, I may have them take the tailgate off and repaint just the tailgate again. This is getting messy!

Don't forget to throw out the dimishment in value. Who would ever buy a brand new vehicle with a wreck already on it. I'm sure it would have left you in a stronger buying position. They tried to cover it up and did a shifty job. I'd ask for some compensation sir.

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[RYCRKT]

My Back Edition is going in for a XPEL treated front bumper and other high scratch areas like door handles. The rest is getting treated with MODESTA glass coating. The best washing method regardless is a three bucket wash.

 

[Ridgemeister]

The best washing method regardless is a three bucket wash.

I disagree, the 4 or even 5 bucket wash is the best!...lol

 

[PacmanS2000]

I always thought the best way to care for a black vehicle was....

To buy a silver one and let someone else take care of the black vehicle.

?

 

[chrisnack]

Have it professionally detailed with C-quartz or something similar, semi-permanent wax that bonds to the paint, looks detailed every time you wash it.... have had it or something similar on all my cars...


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[SpecOp1]

Welcome to Black vehicles. Ridgemeister is correct NEVER run a black car through a car wash. Two bucket system with gritguards. I detail cars and I use Chemical Guys Jet Seal as the paint protector. If you have swirls already you will have to use VS 34-36/38 (depending on how deep swirls are) to correct the damage. Then Jet Seal..black is a nightmare. I do this work a lot. And even I didn't order a BE , opted for the OB..always here to help..

 

[Bleftok]

Edit: ... I'm going to make a new thread...

 

[Griz]

I go to the do it yourself high pressure wash. Soap it, rinse it, liquid wax it and then no spot rinse. Drive it on the road until dry. Get home and Turtle Wax Ice if necessary.

If I do it in my drive after the wash leaf blower to dry, same way I do my nine year old mini and not a swirl mark to be seen.

 

[F6Hawk]

The ABSOLUTELY BEST way to care for a black vehicle is to buy a white one!!

 

[pittpanther]

Some other recommendations for caring for black -> I try to wash the car out of the sunlight - preferably in the morning. The heat of the sun seems to soften the paint a bit. While washing, I am continually spraying the areas already washed - just to keep them wet. Do not allow to air dry. To dry, I am a big proponent of the leaf blower method. It not only gets the water out of every nook and cranny of the vehicle, but it also ensures you are not imparting scratches on the surface using a chamois that may have some trapped dirt particles in it.

 

[Michael Cole]

Depending on how bad they are you may need a mild abrasive to buff them out (a professional detailer can take care of that for you) or you can use the first product below, once that is done lay down a coat of Zaino ZC-S then 3 coats of Z5 should last 6 months and look like you laid a sheet of glass on your paint. It’s a bit of work but when you see the results it will be well worth it. The site has detailed instructions on how to use each product black or dark colors I have found nothing better.

Zaino Store : Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover
Zaino Store : Z-CS Clear Seal
Zaino Store : Z-5 PRO Show Car Polish for Swirl Marks and Fine Scratches

 

[TheCarGuy]

Another Zaino user here. Have been using Zaino products for about a decade now on all my cars.