Confused and dissapointed

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Ridgekid

Discussion Starter · Aug 18, 2016

After doing research and going to see a new Ridgeline, I am more confused. Sorry if my questions have been discussed here but I haven't been able to answer my questions.
I have a 2007 RTS and there are things that I would like on a new Ridge but it seems that I have to go to the RTL-E to get them. In addition, I don't understand some of the features so here goes.

Is the sliding rear window only available on the E and the Black? I use it often for long items including fishing poles

Heated mirrors ? Only again on E and Black?

I don't understand what it means if you dont get AWD. Is there an equivalent to what my 2007 has, four wheel drive on demand?
If you don't get AWD is the tow capacity only 3500 lbs???

I use my truck for pleasure and for working and don't need all the fancy doodads .
I really walked away really dissapointed. I wanted more towing capacity , a longer bed option, and heated mirrors but I didn't expect to have to spend almost $45k.

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FTM1

· #16 · Aug 19, 2016

Ridgekid said:
After doing research and going to see a new Ridgeline, I am more confused. Sorry if my questions have been discussed here but I haven't been able to answer my questions.
I have a 2007 RTS and there are things that I would like on a new Ridge but it seems that I have to go to the RTL-E to get them. In addition, I don't understand some of the features so here goes.

Is the sliding rear window only available on the E and the Black? I use it often for long items including fishing poles

Heated mirrors ? Only again on E and Black?

I don't understand what it means if you dont get AWD. Is there an equivalent to what my 2007 has, four wheel drive on demand?
If you don't get AWD is the tow capacity only 3500 lbs???

I use my truck for pleasure and for working and don't need all the fancy doodads .
I really walked away really dissapointed. I wanted more towing capacity , a longer bed option, and heated mirrors but I didn't expect to have to spend almost $45k.

All Generation 1 Ridgeline models had the same Variable Torque Management 4-Wheel Drive System.
The 2017 Generation 2 Ridgeline comes in Front Wheel/2WD model like your average FWD Honda car & has a tow rating of 3,500LBS it also comes with push button Intelligent Traction Management = optimize handling for that type of terrain 2WD only gets Normal & Snow mode don't get confused with this terminology here there is a difference. The 2017 AWD Ridgeline G2 is different from the G1 Ridgeline. So AWD version has tow rating 5,000LBS
AWD version has (I-VTM4)AWD System Intelligent Variable Torque Management So this has a Torque Vectoring rear differential (like Acura MDX & Pilot if needed can transfer torque in moment to rear wheel aids in handling sending power to the outside rear wheels like when cornering to reduce turning radius or reverse torque vectoring boosting it to the inside while changing lanes at highway speeds to improve stability see Honda/Acura Torque Vectoring to understand. The AWD version also gets Intelligent Traction Management but the difference on it from FWD model is it has Normal/Snow /Mud/Sand to optimize handling for that type of terrain.

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FTM1

· #23 · Aug 21, 2016

stetrain said:
As I understand it the new AWD Ridgeline is largely the same as the old AWD Ridgeline, as in they are on-demand AWD systems. The only difference is I don't think the new one has the manual push button to lock in 4WD, it's completely automatic (with manual modes for different terrain types).

So a 2017 AWD Ridgeline should be the same as your G1 in most apects, plus whatever improvements they've made to the engine, transmission, and AWD system.

The only difference is that now they are offering a lesser FWD model for those who don't need the G1's capabilities and want to save money and a tiny bit of gas mileage.

It sounds like the easy answer for you is to just get an AWD version since you want the same thing as your previous truck. That doesn't help with the other weird feature options that are exclusive to the top trim levels, which is even more frustrating given that many of those features are standard on most/all of the trims in Canada.

You are a bit confused you have an intelligent traction terrain management system normal/snow/mud/sand.
Then you have the new I-VTM4 System same on 2016 Pilot that is more capable then the old system. It has Torque Vectoring now so it distributes torque from front to rear but the new system now also distributes torque dynamically between right and left rear wheels benefits are superior all weather handling and accurate neutral steering under power. So this aids more in the handling of the vehicle like in turns or changing lanes at highway speeds.

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FTM1

· #25 · Aug 21, 2016

UnicornKaz said:
I'm confused just by comparing the different trims between USA & Canada alone ! >

Now, whenever someone talks of trims level and such...I just stay out ( cause I'm confused :grin

unless it's related to the top 2 trims ( ie. LED lights customizing...they are different between trim(s) )

I am only confused by the cost.
So say a USA Black Edition got what the Canada version got extra like heated rear seats and front ventilated seats how much would it have cost the USA buyer. Maybe Honda was looking at general want's of their buyers, Canada gets cold so heated rear seats might be more popular the ventilated I don't get unless it's part of a package. This also goes along with rear HVAC controls. I think this stuff would have pushed the USA version BE & RTL-E models way higher in the price range of what people would have wanted to pay. Many are already griping at the cost of the truck. The Pilot is a more popular family vehicle so I can see USA version getting some stuff but the higher cost.

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FTM1

· #28 · Aug 22, 2016

UnicornKaz said:
and LED turn indicators on the side mirrors ! :smile:

That's the missing feature I really don't understand not being on USA model. I could get by with the Ridgeline not having rear HVAC controls. It's not like a Pilot or MDX with extra passengers back in the 3rd row. The Ridgeline Tri-Zone climate control seems like a good idea for a truck.
If somebody is riding in the rear seat they can ask the driver to adjust their temp. The driver & front passenger can still have their own single or dual temp zones.

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