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I got pulled over today. The police said I was going 77 in a 60. The fact I was speeding is fine, but I was sincerely shocked when he said I was doing 77. I did not realize it, the truck just doesn't feel like you are going fast. He cut me a break and gave me a ticket for 76. ha.
 

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Ouch. I know exactly how you feel. The only indicator I have that I'm going anywhere over 70/75 is by the whistling wind noise I get; however, this is often drowned out by my stereo. This is why I use cruise control way more in my RL than I ever did in my Accord. :)
 

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I got pulled over today. The police said I was going 77 in a 60. The fact I was speeding is fine, but I was sincerely shocked when he said I was doing 77. I did not realize it, the truck just doesn't feel like you are going fast. He cut me a break and gave me a ticket for 76. ha.
I've noticed it several times. We live in Minnesota and there are lots of "back roads" that are narrow and curvy. even on those roads you can get going fast and not really notice it. It handles so great!

Cruise on the freeway is a MUST

Glad he gave you a break. :cool:
 

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I'm waiting for the day that DH comes home and announces that he got a ticket. He rarely looks at his speedometer. Thank goodness I can see part of it while riding with him, but it goes out of my sight when it gets above 50 or so. He has a tendency to speed and the RL makes it too easy for him. I don't want to see our insurance rates go up.
 

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Your speedometer is dead on accurate. I go nowhere without my Escort Passport 8500 Blue. Nowhere. I'm not a habitual speeder, but it's saved my butt so many times, it's worth every penny I paid for it. Cops are after every dime of revenue. Don't be a contributor.
 

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I wasn't 5 miles from the dealer the night I took my BluRidge home :) and a cop pulled me over. I thought he was pulling me over because my tag would have shown up on his computer belonging to a 96 Nissan Sentra. But he was pulling me over for going 67 in a 40. My shocked face and the fact that I have been driving that Sentra for the last 9 years convinced him that I was genuine. I got off with a warning.
 

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RALFIBOI said:
I wasn't 5 miles from the dealer the night I took my BluRidge home :) and a cop pulled me over. I thought he was pulling me over because my tag would have shown up on his computer belonging to a 96 Nissan Sentra. But he was pulling me over for going 67 in a 40. My shocked face and the fact that I have been driving that Sentra for the last 9 years convinced him that I was genuine. I got off with a warning.
Isn't it more of a pain for cops to ticket a new car without plates? I've never gotten a ticket until my car or truck had plates on it (after which point I've gotten many, unfortunately). Always wondered about this though. I'm sure the very smart people here can answer this little ditty.
 

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Well, I don't have a plate on mine yet, because well it's still new. :(

damn, oh well.. defensive driving here I come.
 

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Methodtim, it's not so much that it's a pain, it's that the registration info may not be in the MVD files yet (depending on the state). Since you are usually given a paper temp registration it has all the information needed to write the ticket. It's never been an issue for me (yes, I'm a cop......).

And in most states the citation information is sent to the MVD by the court after the citation is processed. By then, the VIN from the citation will catch up to the temporary or newly issued plate number.

Hope that answers your question!
 

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Awesome, thanks meanmachine! :) My truck has plates now, so I'm going to depend on the cruise control more than ever. Thankfully, the vehicle is such a pleasure to drive, I don't mind cruising at the speed limit. Yet another example of the ROC community coming through. I love you guys (and gals of course). :D
 

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shovelhd said:
Cops are after every dime of revenue.
:eek: Wow, that's a pretty broad statement. I guess that would make it fair to say that speeders are self-centered idiots who feel that they are above the law. :rolleyes:

C'mon. Is it too much of a stretch to believe that some cops know that enforcing the speed limit helps to reduce the number of traffic crashes that occur?

shovelhd, over the years I've issued more verbal warnings than citations so, please, give me a break and don't paint me with the same brush as some of the proverbial hard-ass cops who would write their own mother for speeding. :)
 

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ridged said:
:eek: Wow, that's a pretty broad statement. I guess that would make it fair to say that speeders are self-centered idiots who feel that they are above the law. :rolleyes:

C'mon. Is it too much of a stretch to believe that some cops know that enforcing the speed limit helps to reduce the number of traffic crashes that occur?

shovelhd, over the years I've issued more verbal warnings than citations so, please, give me a break and don't paint me with the same brush as some of the proverbial hard-ass cops who would write their own mother for speeding. :)
I assume you'll be more understanding being an RL owner yourself, that RL owners really don't realize how fast they are going. :D

I know I often look down and see the speedo at 85 -90mph, and think that just doesn't seem possible, and then slow down and turn on the cruise. When I'm going 65, the wife is laways checking the speedo, because it doesn't seem like were moving that fast. I guess she misses that, we're going so fast "We're breaking up" feeling.
 

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Ridge said:
I assume you'll be more understanding being an RL owner yourself, that RL owners really don't realize how fast they are going. :D
Yup, I've noticed that it's easy to go over the speed limit without constant monitoring so RL owners will get a break (as long as speed is the only infraction). ;)
 

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I don't think much break was to be given that day. They were out to write tickets that day. Within a 5 mile stretch, I saw no less than 4 cars being pulled over, at the same time frame. I think it was enforcement day. Plus my wife is a Parole Officer, and she had the insurance paper (because she pulled the latest from the mail). I know he saw her badge, but no break that day. :) Oh well, you win some, you lose some.
 

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Well said Ridged.

If/when I speed, I take responsibility for my actions and with that the consequences. I know my RL can go fast, most cars can. It still takes a conscientious driver to be safe. If you can't do that with a 4K # weapon, then you shouldn't be on the road.

I've been to one too many fatal accident scenes and have had my share of death notifications, telling a loved one someone isn't coming home because of someone's careless driving.

And with respect to revenue.....my paycheck stays the same whether I write one ticket a month or twenty. Working in a tourist community with an average of more than one accident per day creates a need for traffic enforcement....not for money, but for safety.

And for those who complain about cops having a quota I tell them, my Chief doesn't have a quota, so I can write as many as I want!

Well, enough said. I am not here to change opinions, but am grateful I can share them here.

Drive safely everyone!
 

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It is good to finally be able to hear from the law enforcement side of this issue. I for one have change my perception and want to thank the Police for their efforts in keeping our roads safer to drive on.
 

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I have nothing against cops, ridged. My neighbor is the Chief of Police in town, and we get along just fine. I've dealt with many more great cops than hard-heads, too. I think it's safe to say that the ratio of good people who are cops is higher than the ratio of good people you'll meet in your life. It's a tough job, and I respect all who perform it.

It's the system that I have a problem with, ridged, and you are just a pawn in it. You can't convince me that I'm risking anyone's life by driving 75 in a 65 on a six lane highway in light traffic, but I can get a ticket for that. You can't convince me that there aren't revenue quotas in some departments systems, because I've seen the memos to support them. You can't convince me that insurance companies continually donate radar, lidar, and other speed measurement devices to police departments with the primary motive being safety. The more tickets you write, the more surcharges they apply, and the more money everyone makes. It allows police departments to afford the extras that have been cut from their budget. In my state, police departments get to keep half of the ticket revenue. What if that incentive was taken away? Would I see as many police speed traps then? I doubt it.

You have your speed gun, I have my detector. I'm just trying to level the playing field.
 

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Quotas are illegal in most states anyways.
I really wasn't that upset at the police for pulling me over. He's just doing his job. I was more annoyed that I have to spend 6+ hours a defenseive driving. :)
 

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Shingles, you are correct. Quotas are illegal. If an officer gives a ticket and it can be proven it was based on a quota (such as Shovelhd says with memos, etc) then it would be thrown out in court.

I would love to know what Shovelhd defines as 'speed traps'. To me, its a person's rationalization to getting caught with a lead foot. When I sit 50 yards away from a 3ft x 4ft speed limit sign that is plainly visible, I still have people pull the 'speed trap' card. It's like the race card or age card and any other excuse a driver wants to justify or rationalize they did nothing wrong.
10 mph over is just that. You know the limit or should and you take your chances. I have never pulled anyone over for 10 mph above the speed limit. But that's not to say that some cops don't. A car traveling at 75 mph is traveling 113 feet per second, as opposed to 98 feet per second at 65 mph. That 'little' extra might be just enough to avoid having an accident, since it takes the human brain 3/4 of a second to physically react.

Why is it that people have to rationalize their bad behavior or habits? Yes, I speed and I do so knowingly and accept the consequences. Plain and simple.

With respect to radar detectors, they only pick up when the radar is on (as opposed to 'hold' mode). Once I turn off the hold mode, I am already locking in the speed before the motorist reacts. Why? Because of training I can already estimate how fast a vehicle is going. The radar only confirms that. So I can't tell you how many people with radar detectors still get pulled over. And when I'm not 'speed trapping' I leave it on, in hopes it slows down those with radar detectors who choose to speed then slow down when they hear their beeps or chirps.

And in 18+ years, I've yet to see an insurance company donate a damn thing to the two police departments I've worked for. So if someone knows of any insurance company give aways, let me know. I'm sure my Chief would like to jump on that bandwagon and save the taxpayers a couple thousand dollars. With 75% of ticket revenue going to the state (and the other 25% to the court), our police departments see 0%. So why do I write tickets? Because people have a disregard for the law and safety. Period. And sometimes the only way to bring that message home is where it affects a person the most ($$$). I can't tell you how many times I've given a warning only to pull that same person over again within a three month period.

Shingles, thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate your honesty and the topic of speeding will never go away or have everyone on the same page. I know that the defensive driving class will probably suck. But I also know many people come out of those classes with a better awareness too. I am sure you will be a more conscientious driver because you got stopped. And I applaud you for sharing your thoughts and experience on it.
 

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Thank you meanmachine19 and ridged for your work and comments.

As a civil engineer who manages projects (design to construction) I can tell you that roadways are designed for the speeds that are posted. I cringe when I hear people say who am I hurting if I speed and no one is around. First and foremost you are potentially hurting yourself. Second, you are potentially hurting others you can't see yet.

All roadways (streets and highways) are designed for a certain speed. This speed dictates how sharp a curve is, how much of a crest is at the top of a hill, or even where driveways and intersections are located as well as a host of other criteria. Now not all streets are perfect. There isn't enough money to fix everything. As someone eluded to earlier the human brain takes time to see an object, recognize an object, and decide on what course of action to take. Then the human brain must send the proper signals to the hands or feet depending on the situation. After that is done the body must react and then the vehicle must react. If the road is posted at 55 mph you travel at 81 feet per second (fps). 65 mph is 95.5 fps. 75 mph is 110 fps. 85 mph is 125 fps. The design time we use for visualization, recognition, and reaction is 2.5 seconds. If you are traveling at 75 mph you have traveled 275 feet from the time you see something until the vehicle reacts. That is almost a football field. If the speed is posted at 65 mph you have traveled an extra 37 feet! That may not seem like much, but it is an enourmous distance when you are talking those speeds. All of these numbers are reaction time only. You still have to add in braking distance or swerving distance. The national design guide we use has a value of 820 feet for stopping sight distance when you are traveling at 75 mph. At 65 mph this distance drops to 645 feet. Speeding by 10 mph means 175 more feet required for a car to stop. Do you still want to risk it!!!!???????

Another thing, when we are looking at sight distance over a hill, we use a standard object which is roughly the size of a house cat. What if you came across a shovel in the road at 75 miles an hour. Guess what?! You do not have enough time or space to avoid hitting the shovel. And if you try to swerve out of the way, your brain will over compensate because of how fast you are traveling and you will overcorrect and then it is Game Over. Yes, new safety features are helping with that, but a blown tire is a blown tire and the Ridgeline can still tip and roll if pushed beyond it's limits, which speeding is.

I could into much more detail, but this basic amount of information fills a college semester.
 
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