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0-60 of 6.6 secs and 1/4 trap speed of 93 mph.is really on point for a 4300 lb vehicle with only 262tq. Is this engine closer to 3-310hp? I realize Honda has a stiff final drive ratio, but it is quicker than the colorado which weighs the same and has more hp. And the RL seems to be pulling down much higher mpgs than the GM trucks. More efficient transmission? Aero? Still doesn't explain the noticeably quicker 0-60 time.
 

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Wasn't there a templeofvtec post about a 3.5l putting down 260 at the wheels? In think the GM V6s are in the 240-250hp range.
 

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My 2008 Ridgeline has 245HP, I just test drove a 2017 with the 280HP, I personally didn't notice that much difference in power. All that being said, I was more interested in all the electronic features and how well I liked the overall vehicle over my 2008. I can tell you, my wife's new 2016 Acura RDX, same engine 285HP will blow the Ridgeline away, it does get up and run.

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You didn't notice much of a difference? Wow, it's night and day to me. Much better power and doesn't have downshift to respond as much as the old RL.
 

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It's all got to do with the efficiency of getting the power to the ground. The RL has an efficient AWD system putting power to all four wheels off the line. It's tuned to make use of the torque at lower RPM's, too. Whereas the Canyorado does have more HP, it's torque numbers are similar to the RL's. Plus, being that the driveline loss is likely quite a bit more (and even worse when 4WD is engaged), the thing wouldn't get off the line very quickly. Simply comparing power to weight ratios doesn't give you an accurate picture of what actually happens in real life. If you were to put both trucks on a dyno, I would bet the RL makes and equal amount of hp and maybe 10-15 more tq to the wheels than the GM twins. HP gets you moving faster after you're already moving. Torque gets you off the line. Coupled with better traction and a better transmission = death to Canyorado in the 1/4 mile.
 
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It's all got to do with the efficiency of getting the power to the ground. The RL has an efficient AWD system putting power to all four wheels off the line. It's tuned to make use of the torque at lower RPM's, too. Whereas the Canyorado does have more HP, it's torque numbers are similar to the RL's. Plus, being that the driveline loss is likely quite a bit more (and even worse when 4WD is engaged), the thing wouldn't get off the line very quickly. Simply comparing power to weight ratios doesn't give you an accurate picture of what actually happens in real life. If you were to put both trucks on a dyno, I would bet the RL makes and equal amount of hp and maybe 10-15 more tq to the wheels than the GM twins. HP gets you moving faster after you're already moving. Torque gets you off the line. Coupled with better traction and a better transmission = death to Canyorado in the 1/4 mile.
Canyorado would be the best vanity plate!
 

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I test drove both the I4 Diesel (first) and the V6 Colorado... didn't notice a difference in get-up-and-go between the two, and definitely less than the 2017 RL. I was quite disappointed in the V6 Colorado in that respect.
 

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I doubt that 10/15 HP would be much of a factor. Performance in this case is most likely other factors...final drive ratio, as mentioned is huge in the 1/4 mile.
It's best in one category at least. Can't climb rocks. I'm waiting to see snow performance.
 

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Can't climb rocks. I'm waiting to see snow performance.
Wasn't built for that. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the winter traction. As long as your tires are good, the RL is a mountain goat. Mine has always been phenomenal in the snow. With a better rear diff and more intuitive real AWD, I have no doubt the Gen2 is even better.
 

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If you want to climb rocks, you might want to wait for the Jeep Pickup. They may have a hardcore off-road version. I heard the shocks alone were $2k each.
 

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If you want to climb rocks, you might want to wait for the Jeep Pickup. They may have a hardcore off-road version. I heard the shocks alone were $2k each.
More of a tongue in cheek thing.
If I do climb rocks I'll bring along a 3 ft level and a tape measure.
I might do some sand at the RI beaches eventually.
 

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Yeah I guess that since the Honda is a Sohc and the canyonrado(I like that) are DOHC the twin's motor will breathe better on the top end but lose tq on the low end. Torque is the important thing. I have a lot experience with the 3.6l GM motors they are not torquey I think they peak at 5300 rpms or so. Not where you need it in a heavy vehicle.
 

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I test drove both the I4 Diesel (first) and the V6 Colorado... didn't notice a difference in get-up-and-go between the two, and definitely less than the 2017 RL. I was quite disappointed in the V6 Colorado in that respect.
I drove my bud's Colorado and while it is responsive, it's not as quick as my 2017 BE. I traded my 2016 Tacoma! It was a slug compared to the BE or Colorado.
 
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