Dang ZRoger, I KNEW there was a reason I liked you. I guess you don't get to the 5k club in the ROC just by being another pretty face. It's that whompin' big dose of common sense that'll do it every time!
Electronic Nanny - How to use the "Safety Card"
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In all honesty, that outcome is dependent on the type of Bourbon you're having. I'm kind of a Bourbon-nerd, all of the world's best Bourbon is made about 20 minutes away from my house. If you were drinking some Old Forrester you would not care. Now if you had a glass of Pappy Van Winkle there would be concern about spillage!
Me too.
There's a difference between Whiskey and Bourbon. If you're wanting to have a good Bourbon (small batches, single barrels, and reserves) many connoisseurs use double wall glasses which permit the entry of a large ice cube.... like this:
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Electronic Nanny - First Death
I'll just leave this here for discussion......
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ
I'll just leave this here for discussion......
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ
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EDIT: Here's a version that doesn't require a subscription the The Wall Street Journal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html?_r=0
Can't read the article without a subscription. :/
EDIT: Here's a version that doesn't require a subscription the The Wall Street Journal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html?_r=0
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Re: Electronic Nanny - First Death
1. Open a new browser session (if Firefox open, open an Opera or Chrome session) or close any open browser session
2. On the URL line, copy and paste this text
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ
This will automatically lookup a Google link to article on WSJ and when clicked on from the Google Search list, the entire article opens up with no need to sign in or have active subscription.
Yes you can and anyone can, it just takes a little techknowledge.zroger73 said:
1. Open a new browser session (if Firefox open, open an Opera or Chrome session) or close any open browser session
2. On the URL line, copy and paste this text
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ
This will automatically lookup a Google link to article on WSJ and when clicked on from the Google Search list, the entire article opens up with no need to sign in or have active subscription.
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I'm lazy, yet efficient - that's too much work to go through and defeats the whole purpose of hyperlinks!
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Aren't you the smart one! Thanks for the guidance. Normally my son might provide that for me, LOL.
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I've had my Black Edition since day 1 and so far, it appears that I can turn off all of the "nanny devices". There are controls on the steering wheel and on the left hand side console. I haven't gone through and disabled all of them but it would appear that way.
Some of the features can be annoying for sure. The lane departure one is probably the worst but I leave it on more often than not. The steering wheel vibration (the lights don't bother me) is probably the biggest thing. Odd that I sort of miss it when it's off though - that's just me.
Some of the features can be annoying for sure. The lane departure one is probably the worst but I leave it on more often than not. The steering wheel vibration (the lights don't bother me) is probably the biggest thing. Odd that I sort of miss it when it's off though - that's just me.
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Technology always fails at some point.
Reminds me of two Microsoft - Boeing jokes.
Microsoft and Boeing merge
Joke 1
Good news - the Boeing 747 now only costs $100,000 - the bad news it crashes every 4th takeoff or landing.
Joke 2
Ladies and Gentlmen of the press, Welcome to the 1st flight of the Boeing 797, the first 100% Automated Jet Aircraft.
As we taxi to takeoff, I want to tell you that there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong,
Reminds me of two Microsoft - Boeing jokes.
Microsoft and Boeing merge
Joke 1
Good news - the Boeing 747 now only costs $100,000 - the bad news it crashes every 4th takeoff or landing.
Joke 2
Ladies and Gentlmen of the press, Welcome to the 1st flight of the Boeing 797, the first 100% Automated Jet Aircraft.
As we taxi to takeoff, I want to tell you that there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong, can go wrong,
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It appears the driver whose truck was hit initially claimed (or was quoted) that he "saw" the movie playing inside the car. That later changed to "heard". Police said a DVD player was found inside the car. I think it's far too early to speculate that the driver was watching a movie based on the presence of a DVD player and the word of someone involved in the collision. Too many possibilities including the chance the impact could have started a DVD playing.
Neither my brother's Civic nor my CR-V has ever "shaken" the steering wheel (although both are capable) - though they do often "beep beep beep" annoyingly when nearing the lane's edge while avoiding potholes. On the opposite end of the spectrum, an RTL-E I drove last week shook the steering wheel on several occasions. The LDW system appeared to be even more overly sensitive than my CR-V and my brother's Civic. I had to turn off the LDW in my CR-V and suspect I'll be doing the same in the Ridgeline. The CMBS has overreacted a few times as well, but I leave it on because it did save me once and I'm sold on that feature.
Actually, that's Forest quoting his "Momma".
I'm absolutely loving the assist features on the RTL-E. I commute 90 miles 1-way on 2 lane highway and I'm finding I'm noticeably less tired after the drives, and I think it's mostly due to the ACC and not having to constantly change speeds around trucks, etc. LKAS is really great too. They're not changing how I drive at all, but rather how hard I drive, if that makes any sense.
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They are changing how you drive, albeit with subtlety. For starters, automated or semi-automated equipment/computers/cars does not require much human interaction, and reduces analytical thinking. I'm not saying that YOU lose focus, but each day in the United States, more than 9 people are killed and more than 1,153 people are injured in crashes that are reported to involve a distracted driver. The use of these expanding vehicle systems allows drivers to have more time to surf the web etc, as opposed to paying attention.
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Or, if true, watch "Harry Potter" while driving your Tesla S in auto mode.....and end up under a Semi when the system doesn't recognize the peril.
I can say, as a retired accident reconstructionist, that I remember when ABS first came out and people driving those new vehicles with ABS thought they didn't have to slow down in the rain and slush because they thought the technology would allow them to stop better...and we saw a rash of collisions at first with those cars because of it. People, at that time, eventually caught on. We shall hope that doesn't happen with all these new technologies and that the Tesla example is an outlier...(again, IF he was actually watching a movie letting his car do the driving for him...).
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