[ToadVine]

Re: Electronic Nanny - First Death

Yes you can and anyone can, it just takes a little techknowledge.

1. Open a new browser session (if Firefox open, open an Opera or Chrome session) or close any open browser session
2. On the URL line, copy and paste this text
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ

This will automatically lookup a Google link to article on WSJ and when clicked on from the Google Search list, the entire article opens up with no need to sign in or have active subscription.

Au contrair, mon ami:

Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death
Florida crash of semiautonomous Model S brings attention to driverless-car technology
By Mike Spector and
:
regulators and a Florida Highway Patrol report. Mr. Brown had earlier in the...
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[speedlever]

Re: Electronic Nanny - First Death

Au contrair, mon ami:

Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death
Florida crash of semiautonomous Model S brings attention to driverless-car technology
By Mike Spector and
:
regulators and a Florida Highway Patrol report. Mr. Brown had earlier in the...
To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In

Au contraire, aussi!

First link from that search:
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ

 

[Matt08RTL]

My Impala has these safety features.

The forward collision warning I have turned off. oncoming traffic going around a curve will set it off. loud beeps and red LEDs in the dash reflect off the windshield, it's startling.

The lane departure warning works very well. I turn this off sometimes. It might be a little sensitive, or maybe I just suck at driving in a straight line.

The blind spot monitoring is great, seems super accurate and reliable. I was very leery of trusting it at first, I still give a quick look but it's never been wrong.

The back up sensors seemed pointless with having a back up camera, but cross traffic monitoring is part of that system and is helpful when backing out of a parking spot.

 

[it8ezbngrn]

Honda Sight has issues and soon you will ignore it or shut it off cause it cries wolf too much - from experience.

Then yes theres the idiot who died while watching a DVD in his Tesla with the autopilot on. And the Darwin award goes to.....

 

[BrandoRex]

If the vehicle is in gear, the sensor can pickup up poles, signs and even people. It's pretty neat when it comes down to busy places.

The warnings are a bit loud and sound a lot like Top Gun's missile lock on sound effects as there will be a slow to progressively faster beep the closer the object gets until it gets in the "danger zone" and is a shrill continuous tone.

I find myself saying **** like:

1) Come on baby lock on!
2) Talk to me Goose...
3) I'm locked on!

 

[ToadVine]

Re: Electronic Nanny - First Death

Au contraire, aussi!

First link from that search:
Tesla Draws Scrutiny After Autopilot Feature Linked to a Death - WSJ

Well, in for a penny, and all that....

My point was that it still requires a subscription to read further than the first couple of lines. Perhaps, this is because I have already visited their site on enough prior occaissions to trigger it, while others may still have a few free viewings left.

 

[Earl E. Bird]

Electronic Nanny - Another Incident

The hits keep coming boys and girls.....

Another Tesla Model X Crash Blamed On Autopilot, This Time In Montana

Another Tesla Model X Crash Blamed On Autopilot, This Time In Montana

 

[zroger73]

I'm still on the fence about these safety features. I've always taken pride in and appreciated having been taught how to drive properly by my grandfather (a mechanic) and my father (a police officer). I will say that the last few months in a CR-V with Honda Sensing, LaneWatch, and a backup camera have made me uncomfortably complacent. Embarrassingly and frighteningly, I've found myself relying on these features all too often. More than once, the system has braked to avoid a collision and alerted me that I was about to run off the road - events that were an extremely rare occurrence until now because I was paying attention. There is a risky psychological influence that gives me a false sense of security in that "the vehicle has my back". Unfortunately, I now find that when I turn those features off and revert to my old way of driving, I feel like I've just unbuckled my seatbelt while driving 75 MPH down a crowded interstate.

 

[speedlever]

Link to pics of the Tesla.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/my-friend-model-x-crash-bad-on-ap-yesterday.73308/

 

[DriveAllNight]

My opinion, if anyone cares.
Nobody would not want it if it was free.
That doesn't mean you need it, it doesn't mean you can't drive without it, but why wouldn't you have it if cost wasn't a factor?
I drive a lot of miles every year, always have, been driving for over 30 years and I can certainly get by without them clearly I made it this far, but they are great to have if that 1% of the time they save your backside.

When I bought my last car they had the BLIS system (blind spot...) it was an extra 1000+ feature I didn't want to pay for but I was buying a left over and that's what they had so I took it telling the sales guy it was a waste. He told me you'll love it trust me, he was a sales guy I didn't. Long story short I thought it was one of the best features they ever came up with on a car and I never want to drive without them. It hasn't made me a less attentive driver, it is one more feature that actually helps.

I've never had the lane assist before I bought my Ridgeline, I don't think I need it, but I can tell you this, I watch people drifting out of their lanes all the time, maybe they are texting, but not having the lane assist isn't stopping them from doing so, so I don't think it's an excuse for bad behavior. People will always come up with those. What it is, is a technology that might save some paint scrapping down the highway and a very expensive trip to the auto body shop, maybe a life or two.

How can this be a bad thing?

So the way I see it, people are probably bitching about the cost and not so much the technology but they justify it anyway that makes them feel better about it.

I personally think these technologies are potentially far more effective then requiring us to wear seat belts.

- but that's just my 2 cents, waiting on change

 

[TommyDeVito]

neat. Here is some reality for you. Today's optional nannies are tomorrow's standard ones. In the end, the customer will be stuck with the bill, always.

 

[Dnick]

My opinion, if anyone cares.
Nobody would not want it if it was free.
That doesn't mean you need it, it doesn't mean you can't drive without it, but why wouldn't you have it if cost wasn't a factor?
I drive a lot of miles every year, always have, been driving for over 30 years and I can certainly get by without them clearly I made it this far, but they are great to have if that 1% of the time they save your backside.
..........

Well that sounds kind of silly to me (bold above). It's not ALL about the cost. Maybe it is for "Most" people.... but there are always those who want to choose how their vehicle is equipped. Why do think we still have manual transmissions. Why do people still drive 2 seater low-to-the-ground roadsters, convertibles, motorcycles for that matter. They aren't always practical reasons; sometimes you just have a particular thing that you'd like to experience. And if "direct control" of you vehicle is part of that, then so be it.

 

[Earl E. Bird]

The use of these emerging systems will continue to bring incidents, like the one below:

Google's self-driving car was just involved in ANOTHER crash

Google's self-driving car was just involved in ANOTHER crash | Tech | Life & Style | Daily Express

 

[speedlever]

Being rear-ended by a hit and run driver qualifies as news? Tell me when an AV collides with another AV.

I thought this was an interesting excerpt from the link:
"Google cars have been involved in nearly a dozen collisions in or around Mountain View since starting to test on city streets in the spring of 2014.

In most cases, Google's cars were rear-ended, and no one has been seriously injured."