G2 aem air intake

The AC system on most vehicles uses around 5HP. I sure as hell can tell the difference in performance (highway cruising in particular) when the AC is switched on and off in my GenI. I would guess that most people could do the same . . .

I don't think that you could reasonably argue that the difference in humidity explains the absence of 3-5% improvement in power over a wide and useable RPM range in his real world test. That's stretching credulity.

Here's an S2000 video:
It makes a bit more power with the CAI (Don't know the brand) so for the performance minded its worth doing on that car. It aint a Ridgeline of course and neither is the old integra. . . .

I'm still waiting for the "factual information". Perhaps some of the early adopters of the GenII who decide to install the intake can provide some.

The discussion is great as long as we deal with intakes and not get into personalities. If in the end, we agree to disagree, that is ok too. But the discussion is certainly welcome as long as the discussion doesn't break down into a name calling contest.

After all, how else do we learn if we can't argue a point and either prove or disprove it?

great cant wait to hear more about it

-Does the engine sound change much after install?
-How does the intake sound at 70mph+?
-Faster off the line?
-Do you notice more hp/tq in any ranges?

I was looking under the hood and it seems like it will section off air from around the engine and mostly draw from air coming under the vehicle, in which case a slight scoop on the underside could be attached to really draw more air up to the intake... cant wait to get mine tomorrow and start tinkering

It's not about flow as much as it is about air temperature - cooler - - thus higher density and increase in O2 content....

No - mechanics that know will tell you even a high efficiency A/C compressor can rob 10, 15, 20... even more horsepower as it's more than just the compressor - it increases the tension on the drive belt which then increases drag across the entire serpentine belt system.....

plex said:

I was looking under the hood and it seems like it will section off air from around the engine and mostly draw from air coming under the vehicle, in which case a slight scoop on the underside could be attached to really draw more air up to the intake... cant wait to get mine tomorrow and start tinkering

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Be careful here. You don't want to inadvertently create an opportunity to hydrolock the engine. That will not be covered under warranty.

The G1 RL was designed to operate in 26.8 inches of water. I'm not sure if the G2 RL carries that design over or not.

http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/649642-post14.html

Good point, my Prelude's cold air intake had a bypass valve on it to avoid this since the filter was about 6" off the ground.

bp0416 said:

It's not about flow as much as it is about air temperature - cooler - - thus higher density and increase in O2 content....

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Stock setup draws air from outside the engine compartment. AEM system will allow more engine compartment air to be drawn in. . .It still MIGHT make more power but it won't be because it is drawing in cooler air.

bp0416 said:

No - mechanics that know will tell you even a high efficiency A/C compressor can rob 10, 15, 20... even more horsepower as it's more than just the compressor - it increases the tension on the drive belt which then increases drag across the entire serpentine belt system.....

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I'm not sure how a mechanic would know unless they dyno'ed for power loss? I'm sure it depends on the particular application. For what it is worth, Wikipedia says modern AC automotive systems use about 4hp.

When you are cruising on the highway (In a Ridgeline for instance) at 2K rpm or less your engine is only making a small portion of its total rated HP, well less than 100hp. A 5% drop in power is noticeable.

GhostYK1 said:

If the G2 is anything like the G1. Once you remove the air box and lower half of the stock "Cold Air" intake. There is a rather large opening through the chassis/frame rail into the bumper that allows cool air to enter from the lower valence. My scan tool showed no temperature difference between my stock intake and my custom 3.5" w/6" K&N cone filter setup. It was reading ambient temps while driving.

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I believe you. In the case of the Ridgeline and many (if not most) modern cars the stock intakes already draw cold air. Aftermarket "cold air intakes" are not colder than stock. In some cases the area where they draw air FROM INSIDE THE ENGINE COMPARTENT may be at ambient, sometimes not.

I agree, the air won't be colder. It might actually be warmer than stock. I feel like the aem intake is just eliminating the factory components that keep the stock intake quiet, which will increase noise and airflow. That's a very restrictive factory intake, If you believe the aem dyno results.

How have you not installed this yet?

I remember times when a car mod would come in the mail in the evening, and I would legit stay up until 1 or 2am to install it. lol

T i h o r said:

How have you not installed this yet?

I remember times when a car mod would come in the mail in the evening, and I would legit stay up until 1 or 2am to install it. lol

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Family first. I was the same way. We started my prelude's coilovers at about 8pm (many many years ago)

So... did you install it yet? I think mine should get here today sometime

Not yet. I'm heading to camp. I have the intake and my tools with me, including a 5.5mm socket according to the instructions. I'll put it on tomorrow morning, hopefully.

So JEGS just sent me an email saying they cancelled my order because the intake can't be shipped to CA. Balls.

grizzlebar said:

So JEGS just sent me an email saying they cancelled my order because the intake can't be shipped to CA. Balls.

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Do you have anyone that has an out of state address that you could ship it to? Someone who might be willing to ship it to you or somewhere closer that you could go pick it up?

I've had to do that a few times ordering stuff cross border. Lucky for me Calais Maine is only 1.5hr drive for me. :wink:

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So JEGS just sent me an email saying they cancelled my order because the intake can't be shipped to CA. Balls.

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Where in Canada do you live? Based on what Guido says about his experience with this intake, I may order one too. If you live close-by, I don't mind ordering these to my cousins place in Buffalo so we can pick them up.