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G2 trailer wiring harness for flat four connector?

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Brought my new RTL-AWD home the other night. I see that the trailer wiring is set up for the 7 prong harness (I guess for brake controllers). My trailers have no brakes, or surge brakes, and all are on flat-four connectors.

Is there a harness available that I can use with the OEM connector that the current 7 prong uses, to replace the one which came with the truck?

I know there are adapters I an plug into the OEM 7-prong, but I'd prefer not to add another device and connection that can fail.
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The connectors work very well. It will lock into the trucks connector and the trailer harness well push on wirh enough resistance that it won't pull off. As long as your trailer harness has enough slack. You can find them in stores like Benny's, Walmart and most any automotive store. Do yourself a favor and get some dielectric grease and treat any and all your connections. When you replace any bulbs also.
Either that or tap in the appropriate 4-way to your trailer harness on the truck.

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There are a gazillion 7 prong to 4-flat pin adapters available. There are zero custom Ridgeline stub harnesses to change your 7 prong connector to something else (plus it would devalue your Ridgeline as a trade-in).

My boat trailer had a 5-flat connector (the 5th pin is for surge brakes, and is more rare than 4 pin version), and both eTrailer.com and my local Cabelas had 7 to 5 adapters, as well as extension cables. For 7 to 4-flat adapters, everyone carries them... (Pep Boys, O'Reilly, NAPA, etc). Don't overthink this. My opinion is to just buy a quality adapter from a reputable retailer. Also opinion recommendation is to use a water-displacing / corrosion inhibiting spray or dielectric grease on the pins. I used CRC 6-56, but there are many other good ones at your local hardware or auto parts dealer. I've had zero problems towing my boat with this arrangement.
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Yeah, I too just use a 7 to 4 pin adapter. Seems to be just fine.
I agree with the adaptor. Changing wiring would devalue truck in the long run. If the $15 adaptor breaks, buy a new one.
I'm surprised HOnda didn't include both 7 and 4 pin plugs like the Tacoma. Id think 4 pin would be more in line with the Ridgelines towing (dis)abilities since it seems like Lowe's trailers and Uhaul boxes are usually 4 pin. :grin:
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3500 lb trailers like most of the world actually tows 90% of the time are just 4 wire. (no brakes) But that extra 1500lb capacity you need to have the 7 pin setup for hence the reason it's there.

It is not there on our 12' SRX with a maximum of 3500lb capacity (with a trans cooler option). Hence no 7 wire needed.

Steve
The trailer brake requirements vary by state. Some states require trailer brakes for trailers 1500lb+, while others are higher. Not that anyone checks for the most part. Honda probably just didn't bother to put in the 4 and 7 combo style for some reason or another.
As others mentioned, don't convert your 7-pin to a 4-pin wiring harness. The 7-pin is a very nice feature that your vehicle already has. Removing it and replacing with a 4-pin harness is throwing money away. It is a simple matter (via adapter) to step a 7-pin down to a 4-pin, but you can't step-up a 4-pin to a 7-pin once that harness has been removed and rewired.

Also, consult your owner's manual. On the G1 Ridgeline (and G1 Pilot), Honda requires brakes on trailers over 1K lbs. I suspect the requirement for G2 is similar. A trailer that weighs less than 1K lbs is a tiny trailer for very light loads. Even modest utility trailers can weigh close to or over 1K lbs empty, before being loaded.
I looked into this when I traded my '06 RT for a '13 RTL, very disappointed to find that Honda had discontinued the dual 7-Way and 4-way wiring harness from the earlier models.

My local trailer shop at Receiver hitches, Trailer Hitches, 1-877-HITCH-IT (448-2448) had this kit for $35, part number 20119. Can't remember if it plugged in or required splicing, but either way it was an easy job. I find it very strange to consider adding an upgrade can lower your resale value, really ? In eight years your $40k truck will be worth a third of that for trade-in, what are they going to do ... knock off an extra five bucks because you changed some sacred Honda engineering that was flawed to begin with.

The adapters are ok but stick way out and should not be left in when not in use, or they will draw moisture. A second 4-way connector is also a must if you are going to run a tailgate LED bar which is very popular and a great add on for the Ridge. We just spliced in a pigtail 4 way flat to the OEM trailer harness for our Anzo light bars, wiring is simple but not intuitive, definitely get a wiring diagram or if someone needs it I will post one.

Just my humble opinion. Danny K.
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Photo didn't upload in original reply to post. Here it is.

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You could always buy another harness, strip the 7 pin connector off and splice on a 4 flat. That way everything is reversible. Though the harness is about $160 and includes some stuff you don't need.

I had to replace mine after a backed into a wood pile and broke the plastic part of the connector.


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Also another thing I did on my G1, actually not the truck but the trailer. I just spliced on a nice angled 7way ,even the trailer is only 4, onto the trailer itself. Doesn't take much to figure out which wires go were. Then you don't have to worry about loosing or forgeting the adaptor. Which is why I did mine that way.

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I looked into this when I traded my '06 RT for a '13 RTL, very disappointed to find that Honda had discontinued the dual 7-Way and 4-way wiring harness from the earlier models.

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The adapters are ok but stick way out and should not be left in when not in use, or they will draw moisture. A second 4-way connector is also a must if you are going to run a tailgate LED bar which is very popular and a great add on for the Ridge. We just spliced in a pigtail 4 way flat to the OEM trailer harness for our Anzo light bars, wiring is simple but not intuitive, definitely get a wiring diagram or if someone needs it I will post one.

Just my humble opinion. Danny K.
I'd appreciate the wiring diagram. I plan to install a hitch cover light and want to wire it directly so wiring will be somewhat hidden. Thanks.
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Here's a pic of the wiring adapter on my truck.

All I wanted was to unplug the grey connector and replace the 7-pin with a four or five pin. Any talk of hacking, devaluing the truck, etc is silly. I could put this in a bag right next to the brake controller adapter that I'll never use. I'd rather pay Honda $60 for that wiring part and have OEM quality, than to pay Walmart $20 for a Chinese adapter that also has additional connections. So it appears that the pigtail I'd like doesn't exist.

I like the approach of finding the Honda unit and splicing, maybe in a bit of time when some make it to junkyards.

The percentage of Ridgelines that will end up pulling something with electric-over-hydraulic brakes is very small, so Honda has forced most people into using adapters and not offered their own solution. I tow three of my own trailers, plus some others, so converting the trailers to false 7 pin won't work.

For the record, the RL towed great. I've had the car 5 days and put 2000 miles on it, mostly up to buy a boat and drag it back home. I got ~22-23 mpg at 80mph on cruise on the way up (with a few traffic jams), and 12-13 at 55-65, mixed country roads and I95 with the boat on the way back. The rig is a little under 4000lb and has fairly high windage.

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The rig is a little under 4000lb and has fairly high windage.
Put that boat and trailer on a scale, My money's on OVER...:wink:

and cool boat!
Matt,

In your initial post it sounded like you wanted to get rid of the 7-pin system completely. I better understand what you had in mind now, with the photo of the harness/plug. However, I still think keeping the 7-pin in place and using an adapter is the better approach.

You mentioned that most owners towing with their RLs won't have e/h brakes. This is probably true of boat owners. But many owners towing utility and camper trailers will install the optional trailer brake controller and get the benefits of e/h brakes.

But even boat owners will want at least a 5-pin system for hydraulic surge brakes. Most states have very low weight thresholds for requiring trailer brakes, and Honda requires brakes on trailers weighing over 1K lbs when towing with the Ridgeline.

And even with surge brakes, a 7-pin system offers the advantage of an additional power supply to the trailer, which can be used for a variety of purposes like charging batteries or powering a rearview camera, etc.

... The rig is a little under 4000lb and has fairly high windage.
By the way, that is a very sharp looking boat -- congrats! I would love to hear more about the make/model, where you found it, etc.

I will agree, though, that the rig sure looks to be well over 4K lbs. And I assume when you said your trailers don't have brakes that you were not referring to this rig?:grin:
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I have a 2017 Ridgeline 2WD RTL-T. I love it! But, I'm greatly disappointed that it didn't come with a wiring harness; either 7-pin or flat 4-pin would have been OK. Honda saw fit to include the 7-pin harness with the AWD, but apparently was too cheep to do so with the 2WD. The specs say the 2WD is pre-wired but what does that mean. I have a connector (which I had purchased previously for my 2013 Pilot, but never installed) and the connector plugged into what appeared to be a pre-wired connector located under and near bumper on the driver side of my Ridgeline. I plugged in the Pilot harness which has a 4-pin connector on the other end, but it doesn't work. I talked to Honda customer service yesterday, and I'm not satisfied with the answer I got. I was told i needed to buy the wiring kit (part no. 08L91-T6Z-100) for $225 -- an outrageous cost for the wiring needed to run from the son called "pre-wired" connector to my trailer. So, can anyone out there help me, cause Honda can't. What do I need and where can I find it at something less than $225.
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What does the connect look like?
You say it plugs in but doesn't work. What doesn't work. Most trailer connections are standard, even Honda's. So if it plugs in it should work. Can you describe a little better?

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I totally agree with your response -- why would you need a 7-pin connector used most often to provide for electric brakes when towing heavy trailers ... something more than 5,000 lbs. I'm disappointed in Honda who was too cheap to include a wiring harness with the purchase of the 2WD RTL-T model.
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