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I moved this from my intro thread......I have been lurking here for over a year, and I finally pulled the trigger on my "new to me Ridgeline". I heard that these trucks were buletproof, and most reviews seem to support that. I purchased a 2008 RTS, 80k milkes, White body , Tan cloth interior with roofrack and afetrmarket moonroof. The vehicle is beautiful and I am exited.
My initial complaints are the tan seats, and how bad they stain, a slight whistle when going 47 - 50 mph, and a cycling sound when shifting into reverse. These items dont bother me too bad.....However, my excitement was short lived, I ran into an issue today, and need help.

We have had a lot of rain and I was surprized to find a leak in the interior of the vehicle. I checked the forum, and I cant seem to find the exact issue.

My Ridge is wet around the perimiter of the headliner, all sides. Its not dripping, but if I push on it, I get water spillage. There is no water on the floor anywhere. Both front seatbelts are wet. ...I checked the sunroof, and all drains are clear (It was professionally installed and it it not leaking from there..totally dry around it. It seems to be originating from right rear above the rear airbag in the pillar (C). I wanted to take teh 3rd brake light panel off, but Im scared I wont be able to get it back on, and I do not have the clips that are needed. Any Advice on where to look. I sooo want to love this truck, but is hard when dealing with problems right off the bat.
Thanks in advance for any help.
 

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Re: Haedliner wet around edges

If you checked the sunroof drains, and the seals on the aftermarket installation of it, then looking under the CHMSL panel would be where I'd look next. There are clips & plugs there, and a grommet where the antenna runs through.

You should be able to order the replacement clips online, through someone like Majestic Honda. Order extra, just in case.

Chip H.
 

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Re: Haedliner wet around edges

I will check these items tonight and let you know what i find...Thanks for the help
CHMSL= Third Brake Light panel ....right?

>>Sorry about the title "Headliner"
 

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Here is what I figured out... Long post.. Pics to follow

I poured water into the sunroof tray, and it ran out the drains under the truck... Just like it's supposed to. I then poured water in the track ( left rear and it went under the mount, and disappeared. I immediately checked the headliner at the left rear. Sure enough..leaking! ... I removed the roof rack. And found that the black inserts in the channel were simply placed there... No clips to hold them down. After I cleaned the debris...I poured more water and watched it closely... I can seem to find where it is entering. It runs down the front and pools by the windshield... In the back, it goes under the 3rd brake light plastic cover. Haven't taken it off yet, because I do not have clips, and I need to drive it tomorrow. It's funny that when water is poured, it comes through the headliner within a few seconds right at the attach point for the rack, but with the each removed, I can't see it going in there. I feel that once it goes behind the brake light panel, the water is too low to get back up there to the corner of the headliner.

Anyone know if this has happened before? Any ideas? Are there clips to hold the black inserts in? So many questions... I'll keep tracking it down.
Thanks in advance for the help.
 

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More picks of all the trim removed... Sorry if they are upside down... Hard to edit. It's weird that everywhere I had the most moisture inside was at each attach point.. And the passenger front has a clip and loads of sealant on it from the previous owner.
 

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Let me say upfront that I have never had the roof channels off my trucks and am not fully aware of how they are supposed to work. I also do not know how they normally drain. I've never had the sunroof or roof rack so I also don't know how these interconnect. Just thinking out loud.

Is it possible the channels fill with water and "overflow" down the side and behind the door seals into the headliner? I guess I should go look at mine. One thing I see in the photo and you mention is sealant installed which makes me wonder if it is clogging something.
 

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"CHMSL" = Center High Mount Stop Light, which is the official name for it.

Given the quantity of water coming through - I don't think it's a small crack or anything -- looks more like a missing plug, or the seam sealer was never applied at the factory.

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I could not quit last night, so I looked more. I poured more water into the track and watched all the small specks of dirt move. They all weint towards the caulking in the channel. I pulled the headliner down in that spot and sure enough...dripping. I figure that several small pinholes are letting in tiny amounts of water, and they are collecting and running down the headliner to the lowest point. I am going to reseal the entire length of the channel. Anyone know what type of sealant to use. Can I get it at Home Depot..or do I need it special for automotive purposes?
 

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Id also like to mention that for eveyone else having leaking issues with the windsheild or at the A pillar (Which I dont have apparenly) check the tracks. The water runs towards the front and the channel ends at the windsheild seam. A little sealant in this part would help the water disperse, instead of pooling right near the windshield seal. I hope the pics help others with this issue.
 

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I would look at getting some 3M #8308 Heavy-bodied seam sealer -- it's thicker so it won't run down while it cures. Not sure if you need to scrape off what's there first.

Really though, I'd take it to a body shop - they're set up for repairs like this.

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I would look at getting some 3M #8308 Heavy-bodied seam sealer -- it's thicker so it won't run down while it cures. Not sure if you need to scrape off what's there first.

Really though, I'd take it to a body shop - they're set up for repairs like this.

Chip H.
Ditto this....

BUT, if you're intent on doing it yourself, be sure sure sure to prep it properly.... solvent clean kind of prep (alcohol or ???). You really need to have a pristine surface for proper adhesion. If you have any residual oil or dirt, you will be asking for more leaks in the future. The prepping is key to a good seal.
 

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Scrubbed the channel out... Hit it with mineral spirits and denatured alcohol. Ran a bead of silicone the length and let it dry overnight. Talked to a body guy and he said that marine silicone was fine. I tested the channel to make sure it still drained. No leaks found yet. I sat the truck out in the rain today... Gonna keep checking for leaks.... Fingers crossed
 

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I've been following this thread, but ran out of helpful advice so I've been sitting on my hands and reading along. Great detective work Gary, fingers crossed that pesky leak is fixed for good.
 

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Nice find , now don't over tighten the roof rack nuts like the original installer did or you may crack that seam open again
 

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Nice find , now don't over tighten the roof rack nuts like the original installer did or you may crack that seam open again
Using the proper "Lock-Tite" threadlocker will make it easier (mentally) to not over-torque. Something to consider.
 

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Do you really make use of the factory roof rack? It really is pretty much a piece of fluff with no significant load carrying capacity. IMHO it is butt ugly too . . .
Perhaps you would be better off not reinstalling it? New cover strips for the tracks are pretty cheap from Honda.

I am a bit surprised that you are leaking from one of the hard mounting points. It is most likely manufacturing defect that has been there to some degree since "birth".

I have a custom roof rack that uses Yakima tracks that mount to an adapter piece that sits down in the gutter groove and bolts the studs that the factory roof rack mount to. The groove is seamless metal that shouldn't be prone to leaking (this is a good thing for a rain gutter of course). Somehow when the stud plate was welded on yours it must of perforated the metal.

Glad you figured out where it was coming from. . .
 
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